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Betur26
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Hello There!  


Small video production studio focused on content for social media generating ~2TB/month. Currently 2 workstations (soon 3), each with 2x NVMe Samsung980Pro and 1x 8TB HDD Seagate Barracuda. Working atm with Wi-Fi 6— looking to centralize everything via NAS/server over 2.5GbE LAN.

Workflow:

  • Fast NVMe storage for daily work

  • Slower HDD storage for archive

  • Automated backups/redundancy for each partitions

  • Not 24/7 uptime — only ~10 hrs/day

Looking for best setup advice (custom server vs NAS), and software/tools for automatic backups. Could I reuse my NVMe's and HDD's Seagate Barracuda 8TB HDDs for now, while saving for NAS drives like IronWolf/Red? 
Would I have a much faster workflow with large S-LOG3 files if I change from WiFi 6 to 2.5Gbps network with a managed switch? or would I need to install 10GeE LAN cards on my machines? Atm  B550 Aorus Pro AC and  z790-P Wifi

Thanks a lot!!

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21 minutes ago, Betur26 said:

2.5GbE LAN.
Fast NVMe storage for daily work

Slower HDD storage for archive

Okay, important note: 2.5Gb ethernet is far slower than people think it is. I mean it is faster than Wi-Fi speeds but a HDD will do 1.2Gb (150MB/s - remember small b is a bit, large B is a byte, 8 bits = 1 Byte), so if you have a couple of HDDs in a RAID array they will saturate a 2.5Gb ethernet connection. For this reason, it typically isn't worth putting NVMe drives in a RAID array. It might be more worth it if you go unraid server, or if you go for 10Gb ethernet, but imo you should just get SATA HDDs, and maybe some SATA SSDs at a later date if you find the latency is too high.

 

Also, keep in mind, that if you want 2.5Gb ethernet you need a 2.5Gb switch and 2.5Gb network ports on all the workstations. The same is true for 10Gb.

21 minutes ago, Betur26 said:

custom server vs NAS

Side note: a custom server can also be a NAS. The correct terms are custom v prebuilt.

Custom is always better imo.

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Do you have an idea of what OS you want to run in your NAS? Some make adding more drives easier than others?

 

You don't necessarily need NAS drives. NAS drives or better suited sometimes for these use cases, but that doesn't mean you can't use "regular" drives. So yes you using your current drives will work.

 

As for 2.5G vs 10G, depends on the rest of your connections? You planning on adding 10G to everything? 

 

Do you need a managed switch? This adds considerable cost.

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1 hour ago, OhioYJ said:

considerable cost

Doesn't have to be. The Mikrotik CRS310-1G-5S-4S+IN is about 200 USD retail. Admittedly, you need transducers for RJ45 or fibre optics, but those aren't breaking the bank either, especially for businesses. (tax write-offs 😛 )

 

Given this is for a business and your core competency isn't in IT infra management, use a commercial vendor over the DIY route. DIY sounds cheaper, but when something goes belly-up, you are the one fixing it and how much is your time worth? Compared to how much you'd make working that time on other projects that make your business tick :old-eyeroll:

 

HTH!

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I'm running windows on both my pc's and I don't know much about any other OS, at the moment I'm just sharing a folder over the network which is the one that I'm using for work, so preferably something that it's easy to set up. Not much of a programmer guy.

For video editing any idea if the 2.5Gb is enough if we are only 3 people working at the office, or I'd need to upgrade to 10Gb?

 

 

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2 hours ago, Betur26 said:

For video editing any idea if the 2.5Gb is enough if we are only 3 people working at the office, or I'd need to upgrade to 10Gb?

Are you editing straight off the NAS? Or are you downloading everything to a desktop first?

 

2 hours ago, Betur26 said:

I'm running windows on both my pc's and I don't know much about any other OS, at the moment I'm just sharing a folder over the network which is the one that I'm using for work, so preferably something that it's easy to set up. Not much of a programmer guy.

TrueNAS is free and reasonably easy to setup, with the help of youtube.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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13 minutes ago, Betur26 said:

I'd like to edit straight off the NAS, using S-LOG3 material and DaVinci, or exr's and After Effects for 1080-4k material

Okay, in that case: 10Gb might be worth while for cutting down on the latency that editting straight off a NAS causes.

 

However, that comes with significant costs. 10Gb network cards for the workstations can be had used for <£40 each, but the network switches required can be £200 to £300. It might be best to start at 2.5Gb as you could set that up for much much less and then upgrade later if needed.

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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