Experience with Razer support

[ArnoG]

Hi everyone!

 

 

My experience with Razer support has been great the previous 5 years, replaced a bulging laptop battery free of charge and replaced a headset.

 

But today I made a support request and didn’t get the results I hoped. In short: my Razer Blade 15 (2020) needs to be repasted and thermal pads have to be replaced.

 

I am perfectly comfortable doing this myself, thus I asked Razer support for information regarding the thermal pad thickness to be sure. As reply I got that “this is proprietary information we are not allowed to share”.

 

Note I am a EU based costumer, and we have “right to repair” laws. And the statement above breaks that law, not to mention that in the mail I got as a reply Razer also mentioned they could not themselves replace thermal pads as a service. This breaks yet another European law they must abide by, but that’s side information.

 

 

So my question is, do you have any experience of Razer being this difficult and not knowing what laws to follow?

 

I know a simple Google search, or smart guy/woman in the replies can tell me the thermal pad thickness. But it’s the principle that counts for me, that Razer should give this information.

[Donut417]

18 minutes ago, ArnoG said:

ote I am a EU based costumer, and we have “right to repair” laws.

Unless you report them and the government enforces it, they will do as they please. So I would report them and see what happens. 

[ArnoG]

4 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Unless you report them and the government enforces it, they will do as they please. So I would report them and see what happens. 

The thing is, it might be the law and they might be breaking it. But I don’t see the government jump into action for a small thing like this that specifically affects me and not many people.

 

(And specially not governments in Belgium , but I assume the EU has agencies for these kinds of complaints so worth looking into that)

[Donut417]

6 minutes ago, ArnoG said:

The thing is, it might be the law and they might be breaking it. But I don’t see the government jump into action for a small thing like this that specifically affects me and not many people.

 

(And specially not governments in Belgium , but I assume the EU has agencies for these kinds of complaints so worth looking into that)

The problem is you Europeans think because it's a law that  company is just going to comply. Some times paying a fine is just the cost of doing business. Unless you can invoke the law then the law is useless. 

[Lurking]

You probably should read applicable laws and understand them before making a statement about a company breaking the law. What exact laws are you referring to? 

 

And you can just remove the old pad and "estimate" the thickness. Chances are the pad thickness isn't something a spec sheet and the support person just didn't want to admit they don't know what pads they used 5 years ago. 

 

That probably is debatable, but what is the reason you think you need new pads? did you open and clean the thing to begin with? 

[Avocado Diaboli]

8 hours ago, ArnoG said:

Note I am a EU based costumer, and we have “right to repair” laws. And the statement above breaks that law, not to mention that in the mail I got as a reply Razer also mentioned they could not themselves replace thermal pads as a service. This breaks yet another European law they must abide by, but that’s side information.

What exact laws are you talking about?

[ArnoG]

10 hours ago, Lurking said:

You probably should read applicable laws and understand them before making a statement about a company breaking the law. What exact laws are you referring to? 

 

And you can just remove the old pad and "estimate" the thickness. Chances are the pad thickness isn't something a spec sheet and the support person just didn't want to admit they don't know what pads they used 5 years ago. 

 

That probably is debatable, but what is the reason you think you need new pads? did you open and clean the thing to begin with? 

It’s a simple law called “right to repair”, meaning Razer should be able to provide a service that replaces parts like thermal pads or paste. Or sell me said parts so I can do it myself, or in my case provide me with the technical information of these pads to purchase them on my own.

A google search brings you to the official site explaining this rule which was introduced in 2024. Or click these links source1 source2

 

But I got a reply from Razer today, after I stated I was a European costumer and asked for an agent familiar with European rules. In said reply the information was suddenly no longer “proprietary” and you were right in assuming they just don’t know … That’s basically what the mail said.

 

 

The reason I need new pads is an assumption. But I certainly need new thermal paste because my laptop is simply not useable now. And I thought that while everything is unscrewed, I could service everything in 1 go.

Edited July 27, 2025 by ArnoG
Added sources

[Avocado Diaboli]

2 hours ago, ArnoG said:

A google search brings you to the official site explaining this rule which was introduced in 2024. Or click these links source1 source2

First off, the rule was introduced after you bought your laptop. This stuff generally isn't applicable retroactively.

 

Second, you might want to actually read the directive, since mandatory offering of repair services only applies to products listed in Annex II of that directive. Laptops are not part of those products where offering a repair service is required.

 

2 hours ago, ArnoG said:

The reason I need new pads is an assumption. But I certainly need new thermal paste because my laptop is simply not useable now. And I thought that while everything is unscrewed, I could service everything in 1 go.

Are you actually sure it's even due to your thermal paste that your laptop isn't usable? You've clearly been making assumptions thus far, so elaborate on how you reached your conclusion.

[ArnoG]

1 hour ago, Avocado Diaboli said:

First off, the rule was introduced after you bought your laptop. This stuff generally isn't applicable retroactively.

 

Second, you might want to actually read the directive, since mandatory offering of repair services only applies to products listed in Annex II of that directive. Laptops are not part of those products where offering a repair service is required.

 

Are you actually sure it's even due to your thermal paste that your laptop isn't usable? You've clearly been making assumptions thus far, so elaborate on how you reached your conclusion.

I went down the rabbit-hole of EU directives, and I was wrong.

 

1) Annexe II does indeed not list anything regarding laptops. The only ecodesign directive as of today for laptops or computers is one from 2013, imposing the efficiency of power component or batteries within laptops. Nothing regarding the repairability of parts.

 

But since 2024 a draft has been made to update these ecodesign rules for laptops, expected to be finished in 2026. This draft will demand that companies provide replacement parts and information for 10 years after the day the laptop is no longer sold.

 

2) You are correct that these directives are not retroactive, unless the product was still being sold when the directive was published (which is/will not be the case for me).

 

 

 

 

As for the thermal paste, yes I am 100% sure this needs to be replaced. I have often seen 5 year old thermal paste, and let's say it was no longer paste but just dried up cement every time. As for the thermal pads, these have a product life of 5-6 years depending on the usage. So those also need to be replaced.

 

There could not be any other reason for the overheating as the airflow is still decent. And the heatsink was never removed or touched, making it unlikely this part is damaged.

Edited July 27, 2025 by ArnoG
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[Lurking]

13 hours ago, ArnoG said:

It’s a simple law called “right to repair”, meaning Razer should be able to provide a service that replaces parts like thermal pads or paste. Or sell me said parts so I can do it myself, or in my case provide me with the technical information of these pads to purchase them on my own.

A google search brings you to the official site explaining this rule which was introduced in 2024. Or click these links source1 source2

 

But I got a reply from Razer today, after I stated I was a European costumer and asked for an agent familiar with European rules. In said reply the information was suddenly no longer “proprietary” and you were right in assuming they just don’t know … That’s basically what the mail said.

 

 

The reason I need new pads is an assumption. But I certainly need new thermal paste because my laptop is simply not useable now. And I thought that while everything is unscrewed, I could service everything in 1 go.

The EU has directives, regulations etc.  You would have to read the exact "law" and determine if it is universally applicable, or just directs the EU member states to impellent it in national law. You also would have to read the exact text of the regulation etc. to see what it requires the manufacturer to provide. None of the sources you cited give any detail. by citing a law i meant citing the exact articles int he law that you think help your case. 

 

And if whatever was introduced in 2024 even applies here, your devices where sold in 2020. 

 

I bet commercial electronics repair shops just open up the thing and select a pad that approximately matches the old one or what they think covers the components best. Smooth surface gets a thin pad, and a surface with varying heights of components, gets a thicker pad. 

[ArnoG]

2 hours ago, james404 said:

Yeah, that’s definitely frustrating especially when you’re asking for something so basic and are clearly capable of doing the work yourself. I’ve seen a few others run into the same issue with Razer support being tight-lipped about specs like thermal pad thickness. You're absolutely right that under EU “right to repair” laws, they should be more transparent. Sadly, some companies still act like it’s optional.

 

As for the actual info if no one here has it, Reddit or notebookreview forums often have tear-down threads where users list pad sizes. Totally with you though it’s not just about getting the info, it’s about Razer doing the right thing.

Thanks for the sources mentioned above, these will for sure help. My current plan is to buy a large 0.5mm thermal pad and stack cutouts where needed to obtain required thickness, during the replacement I'll individually compare each pad's thickness before replacing.

 

Such that I don't have to blindly trust some source, and mess up my thermals even more in the process.

Edited July 28, 2025 by ArnoG
change 1mm to 0.5mm

[Lurking]

11 minutes ago, ArnoG said:

Thanks for the sources mentioned above, these will for sure help. My current plan is to buy a large 0.5mm thermal pad and stack cutouts where needed to obtain required thickness, during the replacement I'll individually compare each pad's thickness before replacing.

 

Such that I don't have to blindly trust some source, and mess up my thermals even more in the process.

That strategy is probably better than the person at the assembly line did. 

 

I wouldn't stack many thin pads, though, as the interface between pads also has high resistance and chance to void entrapment. 

 

Assuming you want them at hand when you open the device, I'd buy a few thicknesses and decide once you "see" what is going on. unless you already opened it. 

[ArnoG]

9 minutes ago, Lurking said:

That strategy is probably better than the person at the assembly line did. 

 

I wouldn't stack many thin pads, though, as the interface between pads also has high resistance and chance to void entrapment. 

 

Assuming you want them at hand when you open the device, I'd buy a few thicknesses and decide once you "see" what is going on. unless you already opened it. 

I currently limited my CPU usage and disabled the GPU such that it could be passively cooled using the aluminium chassis. I have exams soon and was only planning to fix it after.

 

So I can easily purchase the required thicknesses. I think 1.5mm and 0.5mm are two I require, if I look at online sources. These two also allow me to make many possible thickness combinations I might need without stacking 3 or more together.