New 5090 rtx

[Adirna]

I just got my gigabyte 5090 gaming oc card yestorday and after spending around 5 hours to try find out why my pereformance arent good as they should thats what i got

 

first of all my system is :

5090 rtx 
i7 12600k
32mb ddr4

 

i was checking people benchmarks to see whats i should get fps on games and the difrence is huge from what im getting 

for exmple on GTA V enhanched  im getting around 75-90 fps on ultrawide 2.5k screen , will when i see videos of people getting doble the fps on the same settings with 4k even.

to be clear i know that my cpu isnt the lastest or the best , but getting 50% of the performances of other looking way way lower then its should . 

before i buy the card i made my own reserch and saw that there is only around 15% performances difrence from my cpu to 9800x 3d , or only 10% performances incress up to 14700k , both of them on 2k resolution.

heres is one of the benchmarks i saw : https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html

 

when i run 3dmark its giving 99% gpu usage and run with 600w

but when i run games the gpu runs on arounr 250-300 W instead of 600 w what its should and GPU usage is on 50-60% instead of close to 100%

i dont know what is the problem but im getting really anoyed about it , after spending so much money to buy this gpu i find myself getting performances far worst then what i should get , 

 

im adding pics of some screenshots on games that i tested for exmple:

on black myth wukong im getting around 70 fps on 2k with  , will i see people getting 90 fps on 4k...

on world of warcraft classic mop im getting arund 130 fps at morning on morning clear area with no people , thats with 25% cpu and 25% gpu usage  

Horizon Zero Dawn 1 im getting 130 fps 67% gpu usage and 300w

on GTA V im getting 75 fps on 2k with 64% gpu usage and with 300w , will other benchmark that i check gets arounr 140 dps on same settings and on 4k even.

 

im anoyed atm and after trying many ways to fix the problems like using DDU more then ones , checking conections on systems , checking settings on bios and windows and so on , and i couldnt fix it.

anything that will help me fix this problem will be very much appreciated,

thanks for reading 

 

 

 

 

[leclod]

Which's your psu ?

Which is your monitor ?

Edit : I missed the "black myth wukong im getting around 70 fps on 2k" that's legit weird 

Edited July 15, 2025 by leclod

[Dr. Will0hlep]

So the issue with “15% performances difference from my cpu to 9800x 3d” is that it’s an average.

 

Swapping between a 9800X3D and a 12600K, I would expect to see everything from some games performing exactly as well, to other games netting massively decreased performance.

 

Also keep in mind that many 12600k benchmarks were probably run with DDR5 RAM, and therefore show the CPU in a better light.

 

“when i run 3dmark its giving 99% gpu usage and run with 600w but when i run games the gpu runs on arounr 250-300 W instead of 600 w what its should and GPU usage is on 50-60% instead of close to 100%”

 

this to me screams CPU bottleneck so that would be where I would start my investigation. I suggest you load up GTA V Enhanced and task manager and send a screenshot of the CPU usage window.

[Adirna]

24 minutes ago, leclod said:

Which's your psu ?

Which is your monitor ?

Edit : I missed the "black myth wukong im getting around 70 fps on 2k" that's legit weird 

1000w corsiar 
2.5k Screen ,ultrawide LG

[Adirna]

12 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

So the issue with “15% performances difference from my cpu to 9800x 3d” is that it’s an average.

 

Swapping between a 9800X3D and a 12600K, I would expect to see everything from some games performing exactly as well, to other games netting massively decreased performance.

 

Also keep in mind that many 12600k benchmarks were probably run with DDR5 RAM, and therefore show the CPU in a better light.

 

“when i run 3dmark its giving 99% gpu usage and run with 600w but when i run games the gpu runs on arounr 250-300 W instead of 600 w what its should and GPU usage is on 50-60% instead of close to 100%”

 

this to me screams CPU bottleneck so that would be where I would start my investigation. I suggest you load up GTA V Enhanced and task manager and send a screenshot of the CPU usage window.

on the screenshots that i add you can see the CPU usage , its around 50%

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, Adirna said:

around 15% performances difrence from my cpu to 9800x 3d

Depends! The 3d vcache can sometimes make it go double if its a i5 12600k due to the 3d vcache affecting every game differently!

 

 

What you need to check is per core cpu usage. Overall cpu usage is not that usefull as games only use so many threads. Good chance a single core is maxed and well if that happens there's your limit. also check temps a 5090 exhausts a lot of heat could be your 12600k (or 12700k if its the i7) is simply overheating.

 

 

 

[Dr. Will0hlep]

2 hours ago, Adirna said:

on the screenshots that i add you can see the CPU usage , its around 50%

and you had a 12600K, right? So that is 16 threads?

 

So 50% CPU usage in GTA V Enhanced would be 8 threads working at full tilt, which I'm pretty sure is the maximum number of threads that GTA V Enhanced can use.

 

This also adds up for Warcraft which is only lightly multi threaded, which explains why CPU util is stuck at only 20% (which is 4 threads in use).

 

As for HZD, it scales to 12 threads so I'd expect CPU usage to be capped at 75%, which is exactly what your seeing.

 

So yeah, you are CPU bottlenecked.

It could be temps, so I'd download HWInfo and check CPU temps (anything below 90C is fine).

if that isn't the issue you will need to upgrade your CPU.

[Dr. Will0hlep]

2 hours ago, Adirna said:

on the screenshots that i add you can see the CPU usage , its around 50%

(Not the easist thing to read for me, I'm a bit red-green colour blind )

[Adirna]

The temps are amazing around 70 For the gpu and around 75 for cpu aswell, ‏to upgrade now for amd cpu will cost me a lot of money, because I will need to buy a new motherboard memory CPU and other stuff, ‏i air that intel gonna release and cpu for my socket any of you know when it's gonna be out, ‏because i eard that it's gonna be stronger for gaming even above the 14900k , upgrading only CPU is something reasonable for me

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 minute ago, Adirna said:

‏to upgrade now for amd cpu will cost me a lot of money, because I will need to buy a new motherboard memory CPU and other stuff, ‏i air that intel gonna release and cpu for my socket any of you know when it's gonna be out, ‏because i eard that it's gonna be stronger for gaming even above the 14900k , upgrading only CPU is something reasonable for me

I very much doubt any new CPUs will be coming out for that socket.

Also, I'd recommend moving to DDR5 anyway, which would mean getting a new board anyway.

 

Also, your performance stats might not be as good as the 5090 can manage, but they are still very good. Therefore, I'd suggest just waiting and performing a full CPU, Memory and RAM upgrade whenever you've saved up enough to do so.

[Adirna]

14 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

I very much doubt any new CPUs will be coming out for that socket.

Also, I'd recommend moving to DDR5 anyway, which would mean getting a new board anyway.

 

Also, your performance stats might not be as good as the 5090 can manage, but they are still very good. Therefore, I'd suggest just waiting and performing a full CPU, Memory and RAM upgrade whenever you've saved up enough to do so.

this is a post about new CPUs upcoming for the lga1700 i read about it more then ones , and its should give better performance then 14900k for gaming 
https://www.techpowerup.com/324571/intel-planning-p-core-only-bartlett-lga1700-processor-for-2025

also from what i saw benchmarks there are not really a difference between ddr5 to ddr4 in performance so not worth going there wich means chaning a new MB aswell

 

[Dr. Will0hlep]

4 minutes ago, Adirna said:

this is a post about new CPUs upcoming for the lga1700 i read about it more then ones , and its should give better performance then 14900k for gaming 
https://www.techpowerup.com/324571/intel-planning-p-core-only-bartlett-lga1700-processor-for-2025

I'm not very trusting of leaks. It is very much in the interests of publications to write about whatever gets them clicks, and leaks (no matter how tenuous) are great for clicks.

 

And even if I did trust that leak, this newer article about a newer leak suggests that the plan has changed and that the new LGA1700 processors (if they ever exist) will just be existing LGA1700 processors but with the E-cores removed.

https://www.techpowerup.com/338059/intel-readies-core-5-120f-socket-lga1700-processor

 

Even if the orginal Leak is true, and the new one isn't, a 14th gen CPU with more 14th gen cores isn't really going to help you over an existing 14th gen CPU that already had enough cores. Your single core limited atm, so more cores is pointless.

 

You could go 14600K or 14700K, but the article you posted orginally (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html) dosn't make this seem like a good option.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/19.html

Intel's generational uplift is very poor right now.

 

7 minutes ago, Adirna said:

also from what i saw benchmarks there are not really a difference between ddr5 to ddr4 in performance so not worth going there wich means chaning a new MB aswell

Like with your CPU bottleneck it very much depends on the game.

See: https://www.techspot.com/review/2777-ddr5-vs-ddr4-gaming/

[Adirna]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

I'm not very trusting of leaks. It is very much in the interests of publications to write about whatever gets them clicks, and leaks (no matter how tenuous) are great for clicks.

 

And even if I did trust that leak, this newer article about a newer leak suggests that the plan has changed and that the new LGA1700 processors (if they ever exist) will just be existing LGA1700 processors but with the E-cores removed.

https://www.techpowerup.com/338059/intel-readies-core-5-120f-socket-lga1700-processor

 

Even if the orginal Leak is true, and the new one isn't, a 14th gen CPU with more 14th gen cores isn't really going to help you over an existing 14th gen CPU that already had enough cores. Your single core limited atm, so more cores is pointless.

 

You could go 14600K or 14700K, but the article you posted orginally (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html) dosn't make this seem like a good option.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/19.html

Intel's generational uplift is very poor right now.

 

Like with your CPU bottleneck it very much depends on the game.

See: https://www.techspot.com/review/2777-ddr5-vs-ddr4-gaming/

also i test games with 4 years old like Horizon Zero Dawn and some other games , that when they were realease there wasnt a better options for cpus , so they were build for my cpu cores but still there i see 60% gpu usage and 350w usage instead of full , 
i mean if this games build for older cpus since they realese 4-5 years ago they should give the max performances on my cpu aswell , but they are not doing it atm

[Dr. Will0hlep]

22 minutes ago, Adirna said:

also i test games with 4 years old like Horizon Zero Dawn and some other games , that when they were realease there wasnt a better options for cpus , so they were build for my cpu cores but still there i see 60% gpu usage and 350w usage instead of full , 
i mean if this games build for older cpus since they realese 4-5 years ago they should give the max performances on my cpu aswell , but they are not doing it atm

No, that isn't how that works.

 

Yes, Horizon Zero Dawn was built with the CPUs that existed at the time in mind, that is why it can use 12 threads and that is why you are getting 60+ FPS on max settings. But that doesn't mean that those existing CPUs (like your 12600K) won't bottleneck newer GPUs (like your 5090) in that game.

 

Rendering a frame in any game requires 1) the CPU to perform one set of tasks, and 2) the GPU to perform a different set of tasks. Both sets of tasks much be finished to produce a frame. If the CPU can't perform its tasks quickly enough, the frame will be delayed. That is what a CPU bottleneck is. Your GPU is finishing its tasks as quickly as expected, but then having to wait for your CPU, causing the delay. That is what you are seeing.

 

Now, your 12600K would have kept pace just fine with a GPU from 4 years ago, and would have finished its tasks more or less as quickly as that GPU finished its tasks. However, your 5090 is finishing its tasks far quicker than a GPU from 4 years ago, and then it is having to wait for the 12600K. That is why GPU util is very low, but your CPU util is maxed (as I explained above, a CPU Util of 50% for a 12600K is maxxed in GTA V because that game can only use half your threads, and a CPU Util of 75% for a 12600K is maxxed in HZD because that game can only use 75% of your threads).

[Adirna]

13 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

No, that isn't how that works.

 

Yes, Horizon Zero Dawn was built with the CPUs that existed at the time in mind, that is why it can use 12 threads and that is why you are getting 60+ FPS on max settings. But that doesn't mean that those existing CPUs (like your 12600K) won't bottleneck newer GPUs (like your 5090) in that game.

 

Rendering a frame in any game requires 1) the CPU to perform one set of tasks, and 2) the GPU to perform a different set of tasks. Both sets of tasks much be finished to produce a frame. If the CPU can't perform its tasks quickly enough, the frame will be delayed. That is what a CPU bottleneck is. Your GPU is finishing its tasks as quickly as expected, but then having to wait for your CPU, causing the delay. That is what you are seeing.

 

Now, your 12600K would have kept pace just fine with a GPU from 4 years ago, and would have finished its tasks more or less as quickly as that GPU finished its tasks. However, your 5090 is finishing its tasks far quicker than a GPU from 4 years ago, and then it is having to wait for the 12600K. That is why GPU util is very low, but your CPU util is maxed (as I explained above, a CPU Util of 50% for a 12600K is maxxed in GTA V because that game can only use half your threads, and a CPU Util of 75% for a 12600K is maxxed in HZD because that game can only use 75% of your threads).

so u think that the GPU isnt broken and i should not return it becouse of it ?

[Dr. Will0hlep]

4 minutes ago, Adirna said:

so u think that the GPU isnt broken and i should not return it becouse of it ?

Yes, at the moment and based on the evidence I've seen, it is my opinion your GPU appears to be in working order. It is just being bottlenecked by a CPU that is 4 years older than it.

 

Can I ask what 3dmark score your getting?

[Adirna]

1 minute ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

Yes, at the moment and based on the evidence I've seen, it is my opinion your GPU appears to be in working order. It is just being bottlenecked by a CPU that is 4 years older than it.

 

Can I ask what 3dmark score your getting?

14150 on 3dmark

[Dr. Will0hlep]

2 minutes ago, Adirna said:

14150 on 3dmark

And which test was that? Time Spy Extreme?

Can you run the test again and send a screenshot of the results page?

[Adirna]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

And which test was that? Time Spy Extreme?

Can you run the test again and send a screenshot of the results page?

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7435217 this is my last test 

[Dr. Will0hlep]

9 minutes ago, Adirna said:

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7435217 this is my last test 

Okay, so looking at that you were running the Steel Nomad DX12 test.

 

So, looking up the leaderboard for that test and filtering by hardware (to only show systems using a 12600K and 5090), we find that the average score is only 14,040.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=sw DX&cpuId=2893&gpuId=1686&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&modelId=&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

 

So your hardware (with its score of 14,150) is performing above the average attained by others running the same components.

 

In fact, looking through the list I see 4 other tests you ran that got 14019, 14191, 14084, and 14060 (all close to or above average), so I'm now even more confident that your hardware is working as intended.

[Adirna]

50 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

Okay, so looking at that you were running the Steel Nomad DX12 test.

 

So, looking up the leaderboard for that test and filtering by hardware (to only show systems using a 12600K and 5090), we find that the average score is only 14,040.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=sw DX&cpuId=2893&gpuId=1686&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&modelId=&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

 

So your hardware (with its score of 14,150) is performing above the average attained by others running the same components.

 

In fact, looking through the list I see 4 other tests you ran that got 14019, 14191, 14084, and 14060 (all close to or above average), so I'm now even more confident that your hardware is working as intended.

some games run in amazing fps like Red Dead Redemption 2 its runing on close to 95% gpu usage and i comper it to people with 9800x 3d and its still run amazing almost the same , will some other games run really bad gpu usage thats what wierd , Red Dead Redemption 2 is a very demending game but still giving amazing pereformance of 140 fps on all settings on max 2.5k ultrawide screen

[Dr. Will0hlep]

29 minutes ago, Adirna said:

some games run in amazing fps like Red Dead Redemption 2 its runing on close to 95% gpu usage and i comper it to people with 9800x 3d and its still run amazing almost the same , will some other games run really bad gpu usage thats what wierd , Red Dead Redemption 2 is a very demending game but still giving amazing pereformance of 140 fps on all settings on max 2.5k ultrawide screen

So as I said previously, each frame requires both the CPU and GPU to fully perform their respective sets of tasks. However, the size of those sets of tasks varies from game to game (and even scene to scene and frame to frame).

 

For example, in say counter strike 2 (a game with less demanding graphics) the GPU's list of tasks is much shorter than the CPU's list of tasks. Accordingly, when you use a slower CPU, you really notice it in counter strike 2 (and other games that have a similar balance) because the GPU will almost always be done first, so you are almost always waiting for the CPU. Slower CPU means less frames.

 

Meanwhile in RDR2 (a game with more demanding graphics), the GPUs list of tasks is much longer than the CPUs list of tasks. Therefore, the CPU can get away with being somewhat slower cause it should still be done before the GPU (unless the CPU is very old).

 

(This has been a slight simplification of the real world to help with the explaination. In reality, the CPU and GPU tasks are not entirely independant and many of the tasks on both lists will be prerequisites for tasks on the other component's list. This however doesn't change the reasoning for what you are seeing. Also, it isn't just about how graphically demanding a game is, it is also about how much computation the CPU has to do and that depends on things like the game engine used, the physics, the number of NPCs, and so on.)

 

Another thing that affects the lengths of the task list is resolution. At higher res the GPU has more to do and so you usually find there is less difference between the performance of different CPUs at higher resolutions. See 4k results (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/20.html) vs 720p results (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/17.html).

[Adirna]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

So as I said previously, each frame requires both the CPU and GPU to fully perform their respective sets of tasks. However, the size of those sets of tasks varies from game to game.

 

For example, in say counter strike 2 (a game with less demanding graphics) the GPU's list of tasks is much shorter than the CPU's list of tasks. Accordingly, when you use a slower CPU, you really notice it in counter strike 2 (and other games that have a similar balance) because the GPU will almost always be done first, so you are almost always waiting for the CPU. Slower CPU means less frames.

 

Meanwhile in RDR2 (a game with more demanding graphics), the GPUs list of tasks is much longer than the CPUs list of tasks. Therefore, the CPU can get away with being somewhat slower.

 

(This has been a slight simplification of the real world to help with the explaination. In reality, the CPU and GPU tasks are not entirely independant and many of the tasks on both lists will be prerequisites for tasks on the other components list. This however doesn't change the reasoning for what you are seeing.)

 

Another thing that affects the lengths of the task list is resolution. At higher res the GPU has more to do and so you usually find there is less difference between the performance of different CPUs at higher resolutions. See 4k results (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/20.html) vs 720p results (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/17.html).

‏i see thank you for the explanation,

‏do you think that if i will upgrade my cpu to 14700k it will solve the problem i have? Also should i go for 14900k for your opinion? Or 14700k will be just fine and will give almost the same  performance as 14900k on games?

[Dr. Will0hlep]

1 minute ago, Adirna said:

‏Also should i go for 14900k for your opinion? Or 14700k will be just fine and will give almost the same performance on games?

There will be outliers, but in general I'd expect a 14700k and 14900k to net quite similar gaming performance becuase the vast majority of the games jsut can't take advantage of the extra cores.

 

2 minutes ago, Adirna said:

‏do you think that if i will upgrade my cpu to 14700k it will solve the problem i have?

Well, it will definately reduce the degree to which the GPU is bottlenecked.

 

I hesitate to say it will be solved because you will always have a bottleneck somewhere. Whatever you do, either the GPU is faster than the CPU, or the CPU is faster than the GPU. And as such one of them will always be waiting for the other.

 

Because of this I recommend looking at 14700K reviews and checking that you are happy with the levels of performance shown in those reviews.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/19.html

[Adirna]

30 minutes ago, Dr. Will0hlep said:

There will be outliers, but in general I'd expect a 14700k and 14900k to net quite similar gaming performance becuase the vast majority of the games jsut can't take advantage of the extra cores.

 

Well, it will definately reduce the degree to which the GPU is bottlenecked.

 

I hesitate to say it will be solved because you will always have a bottleneck somewhere. Whatever you do, either the GPU is faster than the CPU, or the CPU is faster than the GPU. And as such one of them will always be waiting for the other.

 

Because of this I recommend looking at 14700K reviews and checking that you are happy with the levels of performance shown in those reviews.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/19.html

Thanks for your time and effort to reply to my questions my friend

I appreciate it!