Ryzen 5000 Specific System Crashes

[RayJW]

Hello everyone!

 

I recently decided to upgrade my Ryzen 9 3900X to a Ryzen 5000 series CPU for the better single-thread performance, so my 6950 XT could stretch its legs a bit more. I got a second-hand Ryzen 9 5900X because I've never had a problem with used CPUs so far. 

 

After I put the CPU in and booted, I had some trouble with games crashing. With a few basic debugging steps all seemed fine, I put a small voltage offset of 0.00625 on the CPU and it ran fine. But then I got random reboots, sometimes after multiple hours of use just while watching a YouTube video, or while playing something light like The Binding of Isaac. I kept increasing the voltage a bit every time since that's what helped with the immediate crashes at the beginning, but no luck. I then got another used Ryzen 9 5950X from a friend since I thought I'd cut my losses, but lo and behold exactly the same random hard crashes. They always look the same, my main screen turns off and my secondary monitor goes full green, and then the system resets.

 

Some more things I tried:

- Disabling D.O.C.P and running at 2133 MHz

- Removing two of my four RAM sticks

- Set idle voltage control to Typical Idle Voltage

- Turn on PBO with a positive offset of 4

- Resetting the UEFI to default settings

- Disable C-State Control

 

The biggest problem with the reboots is, that there is no way to reproduce them. I get them at different times, doing different things. I even ran a one hour OCCT stress-test multiple times and with the slight voltage offset there were no errors. It's probably not related to my PSU since that handled the 3900X fine, which should pretty much draw exactly the same amount of power as the 5900X. The missing 4 pin on the Motherboard also shouldn't cause issues, since the 6 pin should supply more than enough power.

 

Am I just doomed? Is the motherboard not fit enough? Did I get incredibly unlucky with two poorly aged CPUs?

 

It's also worth mentioning, that I run Linux. So far, Windows hasn't crashed, but I rarely use that enough to say whether it doesn't crash at all, since those sometimes take hours to a few days to happen. I saw a lot of threads online with people having similar issues with early sample Ryzen 5000, but the 5900X is from late 2022, so these issues should have been long resolved by then.

 

Any more recommendations would be very welcome, otherwise I'll just go back to my 3900X and wait for AM6 or something to make it worthwhile upgrading, since ATM I'm still mostly happy with performance.

 

More specs:

- PSU: Corsair RM750x (from 2018)

- Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (WiFi) (Latest BIOS version 5021)

- RAM: 4x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (3600 MHz, CL16)

 

If there is any other information that could help, I'm happy to supply it.

[strange13930]

1 minute ago, RayJW said:

Hello everyone!

 

I recently decided to upgrade my Ryzen 9 3900X to a Ryzen 5000 series CPU for the better single-thread performance, so my 6950 XT could stretch its legs a bit more. I got a second-hand Ryzen 9 5900X because I've never had a problem with used CPUs so far. 

 

After I put the CPU in and booted, I had some trouble with games crashing. With a few basic debugging steps all seemed fine, I put a small voltage offset of 0.00625 on the CPU and it ran fine. But then I got random reboots, sometimes after multiple hours of use just while watching a YouTube video, or while playing something light like The Binding of Isaac. I kept increasing the voltage a bit every time since that's what helped with the immediate crashes at the beginning, but no luck. I then got another used Ryzen 9 5950X from a friend since I thought I'd cut my losses, but lo and behold exactly the same random hard crashes. They always look the same, my main screen turns off and my secondary monitor goes full green, and then the system resets.

 

Some more things I tried:

- Disabling D.O.C.P and running at 2133 MHz

- Removing two of my four RAM sticks

- Set idle voltage control to Typical Idle Voltage

- Turn on PBO with a positive offset of 4

- Resetting the UEFI to default settings

 

The biggest problem with the reboots is, that there is no way to reproduce them. I get them at different times, doing different things. I even ran a one hour OCCT stress-test multiple times and with the slight voltage offset there were no errors. It's probably not related to my PSU since that handled the 3900X fine, which should pretty much draw exactly the same amount of power as the 5900X. The missing 4 pin on the Motherboard also shouldn't cause issues, since the 6 pin should supply more than enough power.

 

Am I just doomed? Is the motherboard not fit enough? Did I get incredibly unlucky with two poorly aged CPUs?

 

It's also worth mentioning, that I run Linux. So far, Windows hasn't crashed, but I rarely use that enough to say whether it doesn't crash at all, since those sometimes take hours to a few days to happen. I saw a lot of threads online with people having similar issues with early sample Ryzen 5000, but the 5900X is from late 2022, so these issues should have been long resolved by then.

 

Any more recommendations would be very welcome, otherwise I'll just go back to my 3900X and wait for AM6 or something to make it worthwhile upgrading, since ATM I'm still mostly happy with performance.

 

More specs:

- PSU: Corsair RM750x (from 2018)

- Motherboard: ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (WiFi)

- RAM: 4x Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (3600 MHz, CL16)

 

If there is any other information that could help, I'm happy to supply it.

have you updated the bios?

1 minute ago, RayJW said:

otherwise I'll just go back to my 3900X and wait for AM6 or something to make it worthwhile upgrading, since ATM I'm still mostly happy with performance.

it will probably be a while till AM6 with going off of how long AM4 lasted and AMD confirmed that AM5 will last till 2027

[RayJW]

4 minutes ago, strange13930 said:

have you updated the bios?

Yes, sorry, added that to the post. I'm running the latest BIOS version.

7 minutes ago, strange13930 said:

it will probably be a while till AM6 with going off of how long AM4 lasted and AMD confirmed that AM5 will last till 2027

I am aware, but for the time being I'm mostly happy with the performance and changing the motherboard, CPU, and RAM is a little too costly at the moment. At that point, I'll just do a new build since everything in my build is from late 2017 early 2018 except the CPU and GPU.