Advice about upgrading pc

[shadowss]

Budget (including currency): they dont care

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 3d modeling in substance painter 

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Hello above i have put in what the person have in their pc and what they do 

so I am helping them figure out how to make their pc a bit better cause they are telling me they sometimes lag in substance painter now i have not done much 3d modeling so dont know much about the program but i know i have heard other places that a lot of 3d artist recommend around 64-128 gb of ram so that is my thought of what to upgrade in their pc but what would everyone here recommend them to do ?

 

[Agall]

11 minutes ago, shadowss said:

so I am helping them figure out how to make their pc a bit better cause they are telling me they sometimes lag in substance painter now i have not done much 3d modeling so dont know much about the program but i know i have heard other places that a lot of 3d artist recommend around 64-128 gb of ram so that is my thought of what to upgrade in their pc but what would everyone here recommend them to do ?

I would recommend having your friend use Task Manager while using their software to figure out what their current limitation is. If its just RAM for their existing system, that's usually a far cheaper option than a whole new PC.

 

Task Manager should make it obvious where the limit is, whether that's RAM being capped, CPU utilization is 100% the whole time, or its just a GPU limitation.

[shadowss]

2 minutes ago, Agall said:

I would recommend having your friend use Task Manager while using their software to figure out what their current limitation is. If its just RAM for their existing system, that's usually a far cheaper option than a whole new PC.

 

Task Manager should make it obvious where the limit is, whether that's RAM being capped, CPU utilization is 100% the whole time, or its just a GPU limitation.

i never ever thought about them buying an entire new system like their system is already pretty new my idea was just upgrading the ram of their existing system 

yea could def do that i just looked at their ram while they were doing some work in blender and its def ram they are using a lot of while running blender they use around 16-24 gb of their ram and they say usually substance painter is more intense also when i look up recommendations of substance painter they creators recommend optimally 64gb other people also say between 64 gb and 128gb of ram they only have 32 currently 

 

[BahnStormer]

Check if the software they're using can leverage the GPU and if so, if it is optimised for AMD/Nvidia....

 

Some of the software is agnostic (either Nvidia/AMD) and just wants RAM... int hose scenarios, a RT7900XTX with 24Gb of RAM will thrash anything with less RAM than that, while other apps are optimised for CUDA cores (Nvidia) and the extra RAM on the AMD option will be meaningless if the GPU isn't really being used.

[shadowss]

5 minutes ago, BahnStormer said:

Check if the software they're using can leverage the GPU and if so, if it is optimised for AMD/Nvidia....

 

Some of the software is agnostic (either Nvidia/AMD) and just wants RAM... int hose scenarios, a RT7900XTX with 24Gb of RAM will thrash anything with less RAM than that, while other apps are optimised for CUDA cores (Nvidia) and the extra RAM on the AMD option will be meaningless if the GPU isn't really being used.

from what i can figure out then the program seem to be optimised for nvidia gpu's