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2 hours ago, iHope said:

What do you mean? That I can get a cheaper CPU and I'll be fine because I have the 5090 ?

something like that, some apps can utilize CUDA cores in Nvidia graphics cards,

 

streaming/recording software can use NVENC encoder, which is on the Nvidia GPU, to do 90% of the recording/streaming work.

 

And, as far as I can see, one of the x3D chips is cheaper than all of the 16 core chips:

image.thumb.png.b776f9ec91630a4ce030ce3425898ab1.png

 

with the 9800x3D potentially being cheaper, if it wasn't such a high demand CPU, and was in stock:

image.thumb.png.2ef298658639c3daefb23b2ce6f9b458.png

 

  • Unless you're not from US and from other country that may have it in stock anyway.

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

So is the Air cooling I stated above good enough ? (Corsair A115 Twin Tower CPU Cooler)

Dual tower can work, sure.

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

Unfortunately no, this is the list of manufacturers they have for air-cooling - List.

Corsair, BeQuiet and Noctua have dual towers.

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

Think I'll stick with the one I stated above, I don't mind paying a bit extra for it.

That works I suppose

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

Think I'll stick with the one I stated above, I don't mind paying a bit extra for it.

X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 has 16 phases, so that's more than enough

Hi !
I'm planning on buying a new PC, and I was wondering if all the pieces in this build will work well with each other or anything here needs to be changed/replaced/added to make it work in the most optimal way (e.g ram speeds work with the cpu or not, case is big enough for gpu, psu is strong enough etc...) -

This is the build -

CPU: Intel Core i9 14900K / 1700 Tray
CPU Cooling: be quiet! Water CPU Cooling Silent Loop 2 360mm
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS PRO X WiFi7
Memory: Corsair DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 5600 CL40 Vengeance
Case: be quiet! SILENT BASE 802
PSU: Corsair PSU 1000W RM1000x SHIFT 80+ Gold Fully Modular ATX 3.0
GPU: Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 5090 XTREME WATERFORCE 32G
SSD: Samsung SSD 2.0TB 990 PRO NVMe M.2 [x2 for a total of 4TB]
Monitor: Dell Alienware AW2723DF QHD IPS 27'' [x2]

Thanks in advance!
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What exactly will you do? 
Accordingly you can get a better system for less money but anywho

The PSU wont cut it, the estimated wattage is about 985w according to PCPP so youll need AT LEAST 1200w and ideally 1500w

Also the ram is an atrocious choice as it is crazy slow

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That depends, what's your use case?

 

9 minutes ago, iHope said:

Memory: Corsair DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 5600 CL40 Vengeance

The RAM's a little slow.

 

11 minutes ago, iHope said:

CPU: Intel Core i9 14900K / 1700 Tray

Is AMD non negotiable, or are you choosing Intel because you're used to the platform, or something else?

 

Nothing against Intel, AMD's just in this kind of "almost always the better choice in 99% of use cases" kind of situation...

 

1 minute ago, Millios said:

The PSU wont cut it, the estimated wattage is about 985w according to PCPP so youll need AT LEAST 1200w and ideally 1500w

Well, 1200W can be ideal too, it just won't run anything hungrier than 5090.

 

14 minutes ago, iHope said:

SSD: Samsung SSD 2.0TB 990 PRO NVMe M.2 [x2 for a total of 4TB]

You could probably just get 1 4TB NVME, nothing wrong with buying 2 2TB NVMEs, just wasting 2 M.2 slots if buying single 4TB isn't more expensive.

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1 minute ago, podkall said:

Well, 1200W can be ideal too, it just won't run anything hungrier than 5090.

1200w will more than suffice i agree but I more so used my subjective ideal rather than a general ideal so I guess I should have added a parenthesis

For me the difference between ideal and sufficient is the wiggleroom that it is given

For me 1500w would be ideal cause a)it is well above the Est. Wattage and b)it gives more wiggleroom for any potential powerspikes (inlikely for the 1200w psu to hit a problem with that too if it is a good one) and c)the future availability/use for future upgrades should the OP need any (also unlikely cause the 5090 wont be out of date any time soon)

TL DR I personally would like a 1500w and that would be my ideal but 1200w is also more than fine

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This definitely feels like an "I just picked the most expensive thing" whether you actually need it or not. You could probably cut at least $1,000 USD from the price and actually improve gaming performance (presuming gaming is what you intend to use this for).

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5 minutes ago, Millios said:

1200w will more than suffice i agree but I more so used my subjective ideal rather than a general ideal so I guess I should have added a parenthesis

For me the difference between ideal and sufficient is the wiggleroom that it is given

You don't need wiggleroom, in the principle if you assume the user gets the powerful GPU, and next upgrade they'll just replace whole PC in next 5-10 years.

 

At least that's how I assumed this.

 

6 minutes ago, Millios said:

For me 1500w would be ideal cause a)it is well above the Est. Wattage and b)it gives more wiggleroom for any potential powerspikes (inlikely for the 1200w psu to hit a problem with that too if it is a good one) and c)the future availability/use for future upgrades should the OP need any (also unlikely cause the 5090 wont be out of date any time soon)

TL DR I personally would like a 1500w and that would be my ideal but 1200w is also more than fine

That's fine, I for one know the 1200W PSU, from reputable brand with ATX 3.0 or greater rating will just handle those power spikes, and transients easily without any issues.

 

4 minutes ago, Ha-Satan said:

This definitely feels like an "I just picked the most expensive thing" whether you actually need it or not. You could probably cut at least $1,000 USD from the price and actually improve gaming performance (presuming gaming is what you intend to use this for).

I can see the idea, but even if many cores are required, there's still room for AMD to shine and be potentially cheaper, that's why I asked if AMD can be a choice too.

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5600 for the RAM because I understood that the CPU be problematic with higher speeds.
is there a better intel CPU that will work with a 6000 CL30 or is AMD that superior and I should switch the CPU to an equivalent or better one from AMD?

Thanks for letting me know I need a better PSU.

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18 minutes ago, iHope said:

5600 for the RAM because I understood that the CPU be problematic with higher speeds.
is there a better intel CPU that will work with a 6000 CL30 or is AMD that superior and I should switch the CPU to an equivalent or better one from AMD?

Thanks for letting me know I need a better PSU.

Switch to an AMD CPU. If you are paring it with a 5090, you should buy the 9800x3d(The best gaming chip available, also decent for productivity). LGA 1700 is a dead platform, while Am5 is not. 6000 Cl30 is the sweet spot for Am5 CPUs.

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35 minutes ago, iHope said:

5600 for the RAM because I understood that the CPU be problematic with higher speeds.
is there a better intel CPU that will work with a 6000 CL30 or is AMD that superior and I should switch the CPU to an equivalent or better one from AMD?

Thanks for letting me know I need a better PSU.

The CPU can handle faster RAM, but most of people here would tell you to switch to AMD.


By the way what's the budget, if there even is any? And how much are you getting the parts for?

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  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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Just now, podkall said:

The CPU can handle faster RAM, but most of people here would tell you to switch to AMD.


By the way what's the budget, if there even is any? And how much are you getting the parts for?

There really isn't one, I just want a new powerful PC that will last a long time.
The parts are expensive but I'm willing to buy it if it'll last a good 6+ years.

To summarize -
replace PSU to a 1200W ATX 3.0
replace CPU to AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D AM5
replace the RAM to DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 6000 CL30
and optional - replace SSD to 1x 4TB drive
and replace the motherboard to a Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ? (The store won't seem to sell the one I stated before with an AMD cpu).

Did I miss anything here?
Are the water-cooling and case I picked alright for this build?

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25 minutes ago, iHope said:

There really isn't one, I just want a new powerful PC that will last a long time.

Well, what's the use case? Powerful PC is very general term.

 

26 minutes ago, iHope said:

The parts are expensive but I'm willing to buy it if it'll last a good 6+ years.

AMD sounds better then.

 

26 minutes ago, iHope said:

Did I miss anything here?
Are the water-cooling and case I picked alright for this build?

Works, 9800x3D doesn't need water cooling.

 

27 minutes ago, iHope said:

and replace the motherboard to a Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ? (The store won't seem to sell the one I stated before with an AMD cpu).

where are you buying the parts? US, EU? or local or online?

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  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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9 hours ago, podkall said:

Well, what's the use case? Powerful PC is very general term.

 

AMD sounds better then.

 

Works, 9800x3D doesn't need water cooling.

 

where are you buying the parts? US, EU? or local or online?

My usage is heavy gaming, and also production programs with heavy renders like AE, and streaming.
 

Could you explain why 9800x3D doesn't need water cooling? What cooler would work best with the 9800x3D and last a long time?
I don't mind spending some more for a water-cooling if it's better than an air cooler, then again, I'm kind of clueless on this.
Some options I've seen in the store are (There are more options of course if you think something else will work better) -
* Corsair A115 Twin Tower CPU Cooler
* NZXT Kraken Elite 360 AIO with LCD Display
* Corsair iCUE LINK TITAN 360 RX LCD AIO Liquid CPU Cooler


Also, do you have any recommendation on an equivalent motherboard to Gigabyte Z790 AORUS PRO X WiFi7 , that will work with 9800x3D (does Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 work as an equivalent replacement here?).
 

Lastly, I got recommended by the store to take the 'be quiet! SILENT BASE 802' case, but I'm not sure if it's the best pick. Ideally I want a case that everything will fit into, with no RGB, and to be as silent as possible with decent cooling and dust filters.

Buying the parts locally from a store and they put it all together.
 

Thanks for the help! Much appreciated!

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4 hours ago, iHope said:

My usage is heavy gaming, and also production programs with heavy renders like AE, and streaming.

I know some programs, that might include AE can heavily utilize GPU, dropping the need of high core-count CPU, that then can be more gaming focused instead.

 

Same with streaming.

 

4 hours ago, iHope said:

Could you explain why 9800x3D doesn't need water cooling? What cooler would work best with the 9800x3D and last a long time?

9800x3D is very efficient, so it doesn't need lot of cooling, it's also bit more thermally sensitive because it has the 3D cache.

 

Air Cooler can last you a long time, because the only point of failure is the fan, which can be replaced. In AIO, if pump fails, you're replacing entire AIO.

 

4 hours ago, iHope said:

Some options I've seen in the store are (There are more options of course if you think something else will work better) -

Does it have these bad boys?:

Thermalright TL-S12RW X3 3-Pack

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE

Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB

ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE

Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK

 

Or, if you want strong cooling just because, how much more are these 360mms?

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360

Thermalright Aqua Elite V3

Thermalright Frozen Prism

Thermalright Frozen Edge

Thermalright Frozen Notte ARGB

 

ARCTIC/Thermalright can have pretty cheap AIOs without paying too much for them.

 

4 hours ago, iHope said:

Also, do you have any recommendation on an equivalent motherboard to Gigabyte Z790 AORUS PRO X WiFi7 , that will work with 9800x3D (does Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 work as an equivalent replacement here?).

Well, it works, you could use even cheaper MB though, some B650 motherboards have really good VRM design.

 

Or recent B850 chipset is like slightly updated version of B650 + BIOS that supports current 9000 series without fear of needing doing BIOS flash first.

 

4 hours ago, iHope said:

Lastly, I got recommended by the store to take the 'be quiet! SILENT BASE 802' case, but I'm not sure if it's the best pick. Ideally I want a case that everything will fit into, with no RGB, and to be as silent as possible with decent cooling and dust filters.

Buying the parts locally from a store and they put it all together.

Don't really know which cases do or don't have dust filters.

 

There are simple mesh cases, that just let the mesh catch dust, and there are cases that have dust filters.

Montech AIR 903 BASE

Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA

Lian Li LANCOOL 216

Fractal Design Meshify C

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX

Phanteks ECLIPSE G500A Performance

Fractal Design North

be quiet! Silent Base 802

Lian Li LANCOOL III

 

From what I know after very quick research, Pure Base, Meshify C, Silent Base 802 and LANCOOL III, have lot of filters. (front, top, bottom/PSU)

Other cases have either only filter for PSU, or PSU and top of the case.

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  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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2 hours ago, podkall said:

dropping the need of high core-count CPU, that then can be more gaming focused instead.

What do you mean? That I can get a cheaper CPU and I'll be fine because I have the 5090 ?
 

2 hours ago, podkall said:

Air Cooler can last you a long time, because the only point of failure is the fan

So is the Air cooling I stated above good enough ? (Corsair A115 Twin Tower CPU Cooler)
 

2 hours ago, podkall said:

Does it have these bad boys?:

Unfortunately no, this is the list of manufacturers they have for air-cooling - List.
 

2 hours ago, podkall said:

you could use even cheaper MB though

Think I'll stick with the one I stated above, I don't mind paying a bit extra for it.
 

2 hours ago, podkall said:

From what I know after very quick research, Pure Base, Meshify C, Silent Base 802 and LANCOOL III, have lot of filters. (front, top, bottom/PSU)

Thanks!

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2 hours ago, iHope said:

What do you mean? That I can get a cheaper CPU and I'll be fine because I have the 5090 ?

something like that, some apps can utilize CUDA cores in Nvidia graphics cards,

 

streaming/recording software can use NVENC encoder, which is on the Nvidia GPU, to do 90% of the recording/streaming work.

 

And, as far as I can see, one of the x3D chips is cheaper than all of the 16 core chips:

image.thumb.png.b776f9ec91630a4ce030ce3425898ab1.png

 

with the 9800x3D potentially being cheaper, if it wasn't such a high demand CPU, and was in stock:

image.thumb.png.2ef298658639c3daefb23b2ce6f9b458.png

 

  • Unless you're not from US and from other country that may have it in stock anyway.

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

So is the Air cooling I stated above good enough ? (Corsair A115 Twin Tower CPU Cooler)

Dual tower can work, sure.

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

Unfortunately no, this is the list of manufacturers they have for air-cooling - List.

Corsair, BeQuiet and Noctua have dual towers.

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

Think I'll stick with the one I stated above, I don't mind paying a bit extra for it.

That works I suppose

 

2 hours ago, iHope said:

Think I'll stick with the one I stated above, I don't mind paying a bit extra for it.

X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 has 16 phases, so that's more than enough

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current PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti [further details on my profile]

PC configs I used before:

  1. Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050
  2. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050
  3. Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti
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