First time builder worried about missing something

[OneTrueTreeTree]

Budget: 4000 $AUD, very little flexibility, peripherals not included, Windows included

Country: Australia

Loads: Frequent use of 3D software, e.g. Blender, Maya - Very frequent use of resource-intensive games, e.g. DCS World, Cities Skylines 2, ARMA Reforger, various VR titles. I intend to purchase one 1440p monitor (not included in the budget) and potentially another in the future. 

 

Ahoy there!

 

I'm looking to upgrade my system before beginning university in February since I've long outgrown the capabilities of my OEM 2060+9700F build. I've plotted out a potential build on PCPP. Being a first-time builder though, I want to make sure that I'm not missing anything - whether I can get bang for my buck by using a different part or that I'm missing a crucial component entirely.

 

I'm aware that the 7800X3D chip I selected is more optimized for gaming loads than 3D work, but considering the kind of work I use 3D software for, I'll be GPU bottlenecked anyway.

 

I'm mainly concerned about the MB since I can't honestly say that I know much at all about choosing those. Is the MSI B650 I selected going to impact the performance at all? Do I need a fan hub or any other third-party connectors?

 

A current-gen Nvidia GPU is required, not by choice but for compatibility. I like the aesthetics of a case like the NZXT H9, especially with dual chambers. I live in a very hot part of Australia and won't necessarily have air conditioning for the foreseeable future, so a very significant amount of cooling capacity is required.

 

Any help with correcting inefficiencies in the build would be much appreciated

[Wh0_Am_1]

Welcome to the LTT forums! 

My biggest question is, how are you going to build it, have you already ordered a tool kit?

 

My second question is, if this is a production critical system are you sure that you want to leave your fate to an AIO pump?

Don't get me wrong they are generally reliable, but if your income relies on this working, the standards the system needs to maintain may be of an elevated level, so an air cooler may be preferable. 

 

Edit: This is of smaller consequence, but you are buying an AM5 board which will be upgradeable to later gens of CPUs in the future. if you plan on using this for professional 3D, you may want to consider a higher power PSU so that you have the option to upgrade your GPU and/or add a second one, as it is you are pushing up against the limits for what I would consider safe for an RTX 4070ti. 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor  ($629.00 @ Computer Alliance) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($65.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: *ASRock Z890 Pro RS WiFi ATX LGA1851 Motherboard  ($399.00 @ Centre Com) 
Memory: *Patriot Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($285.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($158.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1319.00 @ MSY Technology) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $3093.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-19 17:36 AEDT+1100

[starsmine]

35 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

you may want to consider a higher power PSU so that you have the option to upgrade your GPU and/or add a second one, as it is you are pushing up against the limits for what I would consider safe for an RTX 4070ti. 

I want to point out, 850W is the conservative PSU recommendation for a 4090. 
for a 4070ti, its beyond overkill. Which is fine. If they are thinking about getting a 5090, it may be an issue, but for all other cards, its not anywhere close to its limits. 

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 hour ago, starsmine said:

I want to point out, 850W is the conservative PSU recommendation for a 4090. 
for a 4070ti, its beyond overkill. Which is fine. If they are thinking about getting a 5090, it may be an issue, but for all other cards, its not anywhere close to its limits. 

Remember transient power spikes are a thing these cards can spike to over 3 times their rated power draw.

(video from earlier gen, it's worse on the 40 series)

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/H8B4sp

7600 + 2x 4070tis + 32gb 6400c32 (eff 6000c32)

 

basically just geared it towards the productivity stuff hence the dual 4070tis albiet you may find 32gb of ram to be lacking

 

speaking of ram its been upgraded to a 6400c32 kit just that youll have to manually set freq to 6000 after enabling xmp

 

psu has been upgraded to a 1050w to accomodate the dual gpus but its also just a straight up better choice than the noisy and overpriced rme

 

and aesthetics wise its still a fishtank with an upgraded aio (nzxt aios suck and thermalright is nearing liquid freezer iii performance) though the fans are a different style, if you want a fully rgb fan you can swap the aio and fans out with no cost since thermalright also has similar options at the same price

 

a minor upgrade ive also done is the ssd as it should be faster than the rather outdated 980 pro

[OneTrueTreeTree]

3 hours ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Remember transient power spikes are a thing these cards can spike to over 3 times their rated power draw.

(video from earlier gen, it's worse on the 40 series)

 

 

34 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/H8B4sp

7600 + 2x 4070tis + 32gb 6400c32 (eff 6000c32)

 

basically just geared it towards the productivity stuff hence the dual 4070tis albiet you may find 32gb of ram to be lacking

 

speaking of ram its been upgraded to a 6400c32 kit just that youll have to manually set freq to 6000 after enabling xmp

 

psu has been upgraded to a 1050w to accomodate the dual gpus but its also just a straight up better choice than the noisy and overpriced rme

 

and aesthetics wise its still a fishtank with an upgraded aio (nzxt aios suck and thermalright is nearing liquid freezer iii performance) though the fans are a different style, if you want a fully rgb fan you can swap the aio and fans out with no cost since thermalright also has similar options at the same price

 

a minor upgrade ive also done is the ssd as it should be faster than the rather outdated 980 pro

 

Made some changes based on feedback. Thanks for your help, everybody!

- Upgraded PSU to an ATX 3.0 standard model, still 850W but should handle power spikes better

- I kept using an AIO as the rig isn't mission critical but swapped the Kraken out for a Liquid Freezer III. I'll probably swap out the fans at some point too for the joy of compensation lights

- Swapped 980 pro for a Renegade 2

 

Managed to keep the price about the same - I kept with one GPU and a beefy CPU for games like DCS and ARMA considering how important gaming performance is to me.

 

Still concerned about the MB though, will the MSI B650 be adequate? I don't want to push the budget any further than is necessary but I can sail the 7 seas for a Windows key if needed.

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/kdLjZc

[starsmine]

5 hours ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Remember transient power spikes are a thing these cards can spike to over 3 times their rated power draw.

(video from earlier gen, it's worse on the 40 series)

 

no, it is not worse on the 40 series, Transient got better on the 40 series. @ 12:20

And transient is not really an issue with normal sized PSUs, it was more an issue with SFX PSUs. 

again, 850W is the conservative PSU recommendation for a 4090. OP isnt even looking that high end. They have a 4070 super. where the conservative recomendation is 650W PSU. Adding your own safety factor on top of a recommendation that has a large safety factor is unnecessary.