(Complete beginner) Looking for a PC

[Random_techy]

Budget (including currency): Max $3k AUD

Country: Australia 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: university student using solid works, autocad ect. Gaming too, cod, Fortnite, rust + more

Other details: I just need advice and/or tips, don’t know what to look for! 

[podkall]

1 hour ago, Random_techy said:

I just need advice and/or tips, don’t know what to look for! 

 

Look for PC components

 

 

Perhaps... these would fit well together:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Tkybt3

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($474.77 @ JW Computers)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($188.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($159.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($799.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.00 @ PLE Computers)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($111.10 @ BPC Technology)
Total: $2030.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-10 23:32 AEDT+1100

 

 

• This build can be further adjusted based on specific needs/requirements of course
• All parts were thoughtfully chosen based on average requirements + info you provided

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/b9Vdnp

7600 + 4070tis + 32gb 6000c32

 

should be good enough for your needs but you can drop in a 7900/9800x3d and/or 4080s depending on your requirements

[Random_techy]

18 hours ago, podkall said:

Look for PC components

 

 

Perhaps... these would fit well together:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Tkybt3

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($474.77 @ JW Computers)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($188.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($159.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($799.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.00 @ PLE Computers)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($111.10 @ BPC Technology)
Total: $2030.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-10 23:32 AEDT+1100

 

 

• This build can be further adjusted based on specific needs/requirements of course
• All parts were thoughtfully chosen based on average requirements + info you provided

What about a monitor, I currently have "Dell P2721Q Monitor". Would this be sufficient or it doesn't really matter?

[podkall]

3 hours ago, Random_techy said:

What about a monitor, I currently have "Dell P2721Q Monitor". Would this be sufficient or it doesn't really matter?

From a monitor standpoint, yours look decent,

 

if you're worried about PC handling the 4K resolution, one change would be getting something like RTX 4070 Ti Super for 16GB VRAM and more power for 4K gaming,

 

of course, even AMD GPUs could work, though those aren't as deeply optimized for things like autocad and solidworks as Nvidia is, though with quick google search I found that even AMD GPUs should work fine with autocad and solidworks,

 

AMD cards can be decent options when mainly aiming for gaming performance,

 

you can get 7900 XT for 100AUD less than 4070 Ti Super,

 

with AMD, for gaming purposes and handling 4K well with high graphics settings, you can step up all the way to their fastest GPU offer and still remain relatively under your budget:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WsJf74

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($474.77 @ JW Computers)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($188.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($159.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($1399.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($111.10 @ BPC Technology)
Total: $2630.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-11 21:21 AEDT+1100

 

 

• But aside from Nvidia/AMD, gaming/productivity that utilizes Nvidia features there are few other things
• Storage size - use case to determine how much speed is necessary
• Currently on the list I have the M.2 is in the middle, which is perfect for games and and medium-intensive programs
• The case has it's own RGB charm and uses 4 pre-installed fans (903 Max case), and their connection to the Motherboard shouldn't be problem either
• All PSUs are either 3.0 ATX compliant or very high quality, 750W is more than enough for Nvidia GPUs slower than 4090, with AMD CPU
• The Motherboard is cheap but good, could be replaced by larger one that could house more than 2 M.2 disks

[something870]

13 hours ago, podkall said:

From a monitor standpoint, yours look decent,

 

if you're worried about PC handling the 4K resolution, one change would be getting something like RTX 4070 Ti Super for 16GB VRAM and more power for 4K gaming,

 

of course, even AMD GPUs could work, though those aren't as deeply optimized for things like autocad and solidworks as Nvidia is, though with quick google search I found that even AMD GPUs should work fine with autocad and solidworks,

 

AMD cards can be decent options when mainly aiming for gaming performance,

 

you can get 7900 XT for 100AUD less than 4070 Ti Super,

 

with AMD, for gaming purposes and handling 4K well with high graphics settings, you can step up all the way to their fastest GPU offer and still remain relatively under your budget:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WsJf74

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($474.77 @ JW Computers)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($55.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($188.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith RGB Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($159.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: *TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($1399.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($111.10 @ BPC Technology)
Total: $2630.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-11 21:21 AEDT+1100

 

 

• But aside from Nvidia/AMD, gaming/productivity that utilizes Nvidia features there are few other things
• Storage size - use case to determine how much speed is necessary
• Currently on the list I have the M.2 is in the middle, which is perfect for games and and medium-intensive programs
• The case has it's own RGB charm and uses 4 pre-installed fans (903 Max case), and their connection to the Motherboard shouldn't be problem either
• All PSUs are either 3.0 ATX compliant or very high quality, 750W is more than enough for Nvidia GPUs slower than 4090, with AMD CPU
• The Motherboard is cheap but good, could be replaced by larger one that could house more than 2 M.2 disks

 

I was advised that SolidWorks and most other CAD applications are heavily optimized for CUDA, a technology specific to Nvidia. While the Radeon RX 7900 XTX would be the better choice for gaming, Nvidia cards are generally recommended for workstations. Given that the 4080 has 16GB VRAM compared to the 24GB on the RX 7900 XTX, would the 4080 still be the better choice for this type of work?

[podkall]

40 minutes ago, something870 said:

 

I was advised that SolidWorks and most other CAD applications are heavily optimized for CUDA, a technology specific to Nvidia. While the Radeon RX 7900 XTX would be the better choice for gaming, Nvidia cards are generally recommended for workstations. Given that the 4080 has 16GB VRAM compared to the 24GB on the RX 7900 XTX, would the 4080 still be the better choice for this type of work?

The question is, if the CAD applications that are utilized heavily, or if the CAD apps are simply used for simple 3D shapes/2D schemes.

 

CAD apps are optimized for CUDA from Nvidia, which makes it better choice when the CAD workloads are demanding, however if the workloads aren't demanding or primary concern, then AMD GPU can do good enough job without being too much of a burden, while being efficient choice for gaming.

 

Simplifying it:

• Heavy gaming and light-medium CAD - AMD could be better choice
• Heavy CAD requirement (or complex/demanding CAD workloads) - Nvidia is most likely better choice

[something870]

2 hours ago, podkall said:

The question is, if the CAD applications that are utilized heavily, or if the CAD apps are simply used for simple 3D shapes/2D schemes.

 

CAD apps are optimized for CUDA from Nvidia, which makes it better choice when the CAD workloads are demanding, however if the workloads aren't demanding or primary concern, then AMD GPU can do good enough job without being too much of a burden, while being efficient choice for gaming.

 

Simplifying it:

• Heavy gaming and light-medium CAD - AMD could be better choice
• Heavy CAD requirement (or complex/demanding CAD workloads) - Nvidia is most likely better choice

ok thank you