4yr Old PC Refresh

[MrKay]

Country: 

Budget: $1000-$1500

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Currently I do not play any AAA games mostly limited to games like CS:GO, AoE or Hades, this mostly for entertainment and programming work

My Current Build:

CPU               AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor

CPU Cooler   Lian-Li AIO
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS Pro

Memory        G.Skill Trident 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC)   
Storage         Intel 660p 512GB (boot drive)  + WD_BLACK 2TB   
Video Card   Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING OC 8G
Case             Corsair 5000D
PSU               EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 80+ Gold

 

I built this right before COVID, it works flawlessness most of the times, but lately struggles to play any newer games, even Docker my development env struggles to keep up at times.

i'm thinking about a mid life refresh, to play newer games and make my development cycle easier. If i can keep my Mainboard and refresh GPU and CPU what would you folks suggest?

 

Thanks in advance

 

[Hinjima]

6 minutes ago, MrKay said:

Country: 

Budget: $1000-$1500

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Currently I do not play any AAA games mostly limited to games like CS:GO, AoE or Hades, this mostly for entertainment and programming work

Current Build:

CPU               AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor

CPU Cooler   Lian-Li AIO
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS Pro

Memory        G.Skill Trident 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 (F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC)   
Storage         Intel 660p 512GB (boot drive)  + WD_BLACK 2TB   
Video Card   Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER GAMING OC 8G
Case             Corsair 5000D
PSU               EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 80+ Gold

 

I built this right before COVID, it works flawlessness most of the times, but lately struggles to play any newer games, even Docker my development env struggles to keep up at times.

i'm thinking about a mid life refresh, to play newer games and make my development cycle easier. If i can keep my Mainboard and refresh GPU and CPU what would you folks suggest?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Hello and welcome to the Forums!

 

A 5700X3D and a new GPU would definitely improve your gaming

 

Maybe a 5900x + a GPU within budget would be best if you do a lot of programming and could take advantage of the extra cores.

It would still be a decent jump in gaming

 

Just need a BIOS update and your board will work with both.

[Mark Kaine]

imo get a 5700X3D and the best GPU you can get, like a 4070 super or 7800XT, because you'll be mostly limited by the GPU anyway...

 

and actually I'd just buy a new GPU, because i doubt you're CPU limites in (m)any games anyway. 

 

you can always upgrade the CPU later, AM4 will be relevant for a loooong time.

 

 

[BahnStormer]

So this is your starting point?

 

(I had to guess on the AIO model)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity 79.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 17:47 EDT-0400

[BahnStormer]

As you appear to realise: you've got a great motherboard and good amount of memory, etc.... seems crazy for a major overhaul given how much of a step up your gaming capacity... you could get with these two parts that would be a straight swap.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($181.93 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity 79.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE MAX OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($769.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $951.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 17:51 EDT-0400

 

[Mark Kaine]

10 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

5900x

yeah, but it doesn't sound to me like OPs focus is on programming and even then the differences won't be so big... to me the budget is more of a concern here rather than max possible performance... 1500 CAD, that's not a lot, i dunno, I'd really want the best GPU possible and then see if i can upgrade the CPU in a sensible way afterwards  (imho)

[Hinjima]

4 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah, but it doesn't sound to me like OPs focus is on programming and even then the differences won't be so big... to me the budget is more of a concern here rather than max possible performance... 1500 CAD, that's not a lot, i dunno, I'd really want the best GPU possible and then see if i can upgrade the CPU in a sensible way afterwards  (imho)

Sure.. The difference between the 5700X3D and a 5900x is only 40 CAD so that is not what is going to break the bank either way.

Either CPU with a 4070 Ti Super is within the budget.

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, BahnStormer said:

You've got a great motherboard and good amount of memory, etc.... seems crazy for a major overhaul given how much of a step up your gaming capacity... you could get with these two parts that would be a straight swap.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($181.93 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity 79.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE MAX OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($769.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $951.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 17:51 EDT-0400

 

Make sure that you set the PcPartPicker list to Canada as OP is from Canada.

You are displaying US prices.

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Sure.. The difference between the 5700X3D and a 5900x is only 40 CAD so that is not what is going to break the bank either way.

Either CPU with a 4070 Ti Super is within the budget.

ah ok, i wasn't sure about the pricing, if it's within budget then sure why not, either CPU would do fine, but yeah biggest improvements would surely come from the GPU side. 

[Mark Kaine]

4 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Make sure that you set the PcPartPicker list to Canada as OP is from Canada.

You are displaying US prices.

yeah, that confused me haha. 

[BahnStormer]

recalculating based on different currency....

 

 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($261.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  ($799.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $1060.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 18:02 EDT-0400

[BahnStormer]

7 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

Make sure that you set the PcPartPicker list to Canada as OP is from Canada.

You are displaying US prices.

ooops - was reading that in a small window - didn't see the tiny flag logo: most people specify the national currency if they want it in something other than USD.

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

ah ok, i wasn't sure about the pricing, if it's within budget then sure why not, either CPU would do fine, but yeah biggest improvements would surely come from the GPU side. 

Absolutely!  The GPU upgrade with either Ryzen 5000 CPU would be a huge upgrade

a 4070 Ti Super or a 7900 GRE for example.

[BahnStormer]

just over CAD$1000.... 5700X3D + RTX4070S....

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($261.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity 79.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  ($798.98 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1060.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 18:06 EDT-0400

 

pushing toward the top of your budget, but you'll get 16Gb VRAM.....

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($261.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity 79.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1099.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1360.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 18:12 EDT-0400

 

or if you don't mind a OS re-build (probably recommended anyway).... then a RX7900GRE

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($261.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity 79.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  ($788.97 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1050.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 18:08 EDT-0400

 

although the 7900XT would probably be the better choice here:
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 3 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($261.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Lian Li Galahad II Trinity 79.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($919.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Corsair 5000D ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1181.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-10-12 18:15 EDT-0400

[BahnStormer]

5700X3D is the no-brainer CPU choice IMO....

 

With the 5800X3D, unless you find it on a special somewhere, it's less easy to justify as it means you would likely have to step your budget down on the GPU, possibly below 16Gb VRAM if you want an nVidia card.

 

5700X3D + RTX4070TiS is probably the best price-performance combo there if you want to stay with nVidia.

 

RX7900XT is cheaper and ties with the RTX4070Ti (but we're looking at the TiSuper!).

 

[MrKay]

Thanks for recommendations managed to grab a 5700X3D at a nearby Canada Computers for $199 CAD.

I was also suggested to wait for Graphics Card by the rep they apparently expect some good discounts for Black Friday sale.

[BahnStormer]

16 hours ago, MrKay said:

Thanks for recommendations managed to grab a 5700X3D at a nearby Canada Computers for $199 CAD.

I was also suggested to wait for Graphics Card by the rep they apparently expect some good discounts for Black Friday sale.

probably a smart move.... enjoy the new CPU for now and you've got something to look forward to for November.... IIRC the 5700X3D is about 2% slower than the 5800X3D, which is still up there amongst all the modern CPU's except the X3D variants....