tips for upgrades.

[Nolith]

Budget (including currency): Around ish 10 000 Sek

Country: Sweden

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: all sorts of gaming, wanna play games on the max with it looking good. games I usually play are single-player games like Valhalla, 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

The things I have today are as follows:

Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z270-Gaming K3

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz, Kaby Lake

Memory: 32 GB, 3200MHz, (Something I can't remember  ) 

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060, 12 GB, Device ID: 10DE-2504

Monitors: 

Monitor1 : LC49G95T, Odyssey G9, 5120 x 1440,  240Hz (Main)

Monitor2: VG258, ASUS, 1920 x 1080, 165 Hz, (Second)

 

I don't have any restrictions, I just looking for inputs to upgrade my computer to handle some of the newer games to come without needing to lower settings for them. 

For some games I have looked at I need to lower the settings like stated above Valhalla is a game I need to lower the settings for. I guess that the CPU is struggling to feed the GPU. I don't know... I'm not a lot into PC building...

 

talk to me about electricity and high power systems and I can talkfor days! 

 

 

[Tetras]

8 minutes ago, Nolith said:

For some games I have looked at I need to lower the settings like stated above Valhalla is a game I need to lower the settings for. I guess that the CPU is struggling to feed the GPU. I don't know... I'm not a lot into PC building...

My first thought was "yeah" because your CPU is pretty old and the 3060 is not bad for modern games, but then I saw your resolution! That's pretty darn big, very close to 4K in pixel terms and a 3060 12GB is going to struggle with all the eye candy turned on at that res.

[Nolith]

6 minutes ago, Tetras said:

My first thought was "yeah" because your CPU is pretty old and the 3060 is not bad for modern games, but then I saw your resolution! That's pretty darn big, very close to 4K in pixel terms and a 3060 12GB is going to struggle with all the eye candy turned on at that res.

haha well, it do be struggling when i wanna make something look good 

[Tetras]

Just now, Nolith said:

haha well, it do be struggling when i wanna make something look good 

The plus side of this is, you can test this pretty easily! If you use a lower resolution and the FPS is more playable then you have your answer: buy a new GPU instead.

[Nolith]

3 minutes ago, Tetras said:

The plus side of this is, you can test this pretty easily! If you use a lower resolution and the FPS is more playable then you have your answer: buy a new GPU instead.

the FPS goes up. when I lower it to 3840x1080.  but it looked so bad when I did it 

 

so it's my screen demanding too much... interesting... never crossed my mind 

[Tetras]

10 minutes ago, Nolith said:

but it looked so bad when I did it 

Are you aware of upscaling tech like DLSS & FSR?

 

I don't know how well it works with a resolution like that, but normally the higher the res, the better it works (the less impact on visual quality).

 

If you haven't tried it, I'd give it a go.

 

That said, I don't know if Valhalla supports DLSS or FSR.

[Nolith]

2 minutes ago, Tetras said:

Are you aware of upscaling tech like DLSS & FSR?

 

I don't know how well it works with a resolution like that, but normally the higher the res, the better it works (the less impact on visual quality).

 

If you haven't tried it, I'd give it a go.

 

That said, I don't know if Valhalla supports DLSS or FSR.

I have heard of it, I might give it a shot and read up and see if it works. if this doesn't work, are there any tips on what new GPU to get? 

[191x7]

45 minutes ago, Nolith said:

the FPS goes up. when I lower it to 3840x1080.  but it looked so bad when I did it 

 

so it's my screen demanding too much... interesting... never crossed my mind 

Your main monitor is 2x 2560x1440, which is almost 4K in requirements.

You'd need some of those cards, from the weakest to the strongest - Radeon 7900XT, GeForce RTX 4080, RX 7900XTX, RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4090.

In the worst case, you could do RX 7900GRE or RTX 4070 Ti Super, but I would advise against it.

And to properly feed those cards, you need a newer platform, meaning a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM.

 

10.000 sek is, I believe, around 1200€.

Can a Ryzen 7 7700 with a B650 motherboard and 2x 16GB DDR5 6000 CL30 with a Radeon 7900XT fit into that budget?

[Nolith]

23 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Your main monitor is 2x 2560x1440, which is almost 4K in requirements.

You'd need some of those cards, from the weakest to the strongest - Radeon 7900XT, GeForce RTX 4080, RX 7900XTX, RTX 4080 Super, RTX 4090.

In the worst case, you could do RX 7900GRE or RTX 4070 Ti Super, but I would advise against it.

And to properly feed those cards, you need a newer platform, meaning a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM.

 

10.000 sek is, I believe, around 1200€.

Can a Ryzen 7 7700 with a B650 motherboard and 2x 16GB DDR5 6000 CL30 with a Radeon 7900XT fit into that budget?

Hmm.. yeah. looking at the previous post some of the games I play do not support the upscaling so upgrading it is the only way to get around this issue, 

 

don't wanna be playing on 30-40 FPS just because my screen is too big. 

 

I think 10.000 sek is around 875 Euro with today's exchange rate. but the budget can move a few thousand if it needs to but it is just a rough estimate of what I wanna spend If I need to spend more to get it right I would do that. 

 

but this gives me something to go on to look at at least. 

[Motifator]

That quad core will even bottleneck a 3060, the first thing I'd upgrade would be the platform, then GPU if want / need be.

[Nolith]

15 minutes ago, Motifator said:

That quad core will even bottleneck a 3060, the first thing I'd upgrade would be the platform, then GPU if want / need be.

Is it really that bad? been my workhorse for a few years 

[Motifator]

Just now, Nolith said:

Is it really that bad? been my workhorse for a few years 

Not the worst but some specific CPU-heavy apps might tap it up, so yeah, better upgrade platform first. 3060 is still not too bad, you could overclock it.

[191x7]

51 minutes ago, Nolith said:

Hmm.. yeah. looking at the previous post some of the games I play do not support the upscaling so upgrading it is the only way to get around this issue, 

 

don't wanna be playing on 30-40 FPS just because my screen is too big. 

 

I think 10.000 sek is around 875 Euro with today's exchange rate. but the budget can move a few thousand if it needs to but it is just a rough estimate of what I wanna spend If I need to spend more to get it right I would do that. 

 

but this gives me something to go on to look at at least. 

If you were to play on 1080p (your second monitor), the rtx 3060 would still be fine and you'd need to upgrade just the platform (cpu+mbo+ram).

 

You can try playing on 2560x720 stretched (it would scale, make 4 monitor pixels 1 larger resolution pixel), but that will probably look bad.

 

 

[Nolith]

20 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

If you were to play on 1080p (your second monitor), the rtx 3060 would still be fine and you'd need to upgrade just the platform (cpu+mbo+ram).

 

You can try playing on 2560x720 stretched (it would scale, make 4 monitor pixels 1 larger resolution pixel), but that will probably look bad.

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, Motifator said:

Not the worst but some specific CPU-heavy apps might tap it up, so yeah, better upgrade platform first. 3060 is still not too bad, you could overclock it.

 

Thanks, yeah I think I will look into the platform upgrade first and then see how it feels.

 

and then maybe tackle some overclocking if needed, or buy a new GPU if needed. 

 

everyone in those posts has been helpful I love it.