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BIOS updates are only for CPU/RAM, not for GPUs - those'll work in virtually any PCIe board on the planet (with a few exceptions). 

One of those exceptions is - you need to enable "Above 4g decoding" in your BIOS. Probably already on by default, but just make sure before you pop that new card in. 

I'm looking to upgrade my 1660S to a 4070. I'm using an older bios (2021) and want to check whether a bios update is necessary before installing the new card (would prefer not to touch the bios on the off chance that it bricks). My mobo is the B460M PRO-VDH WIFI - MSI. 

 

Tried searching for the information online but the search results left me confused so decided to consult the forum.

 

Thanks in advance.

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BIOS updates are only for CPU/RAM, not for GPUs - those'll work in virtually any PCIe board on the planet (with a few exceptions). 

One of those exceptions is - you need to enable "Above 4g decoding" in your BIOS. Probably already on by default, but just make sure before you pop that new card in. 

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4 minutes ago, da na said:

BIOS updates are only for CPU/RAM, not for GPUs - those'll work in virtually any PCIe board on the planet (with a few exceptions). 

One of those exceptions is - you need to enable "Above 4g decoding" in your BIOS. Probably already on by default, but just make sure before you pop that new card in. 

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still tho, if your BIOS is 3 years old you might want to upgrade it regardless for security updates and the likes.

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If you put your motherboard model into userbenchmark and scroll down to "user profiles" it has a list of users who did the benchmark with your motherboard and the same graphics card.

 

E.g.

Bios date: 20201007

4070 (MSI)

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/65600705

 

So, I think you're likely to be fine, but if you have problems you can always pull the card and update the BIOS afterwards (especially easy if your CPU has integrated graphics), so no need to update it first.

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Just want to add that a BIOS update IS sometimes needed for a new GPU, especially if you are upgrading a card in an OEM.

 

For example, upgrading my dad's old Dell XPS 8500 with a 1650 Super required updating the BIOS or it wouldn't boot.

 

It's very specific but just in case someone is looking.

  • CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus B550i Pro AX
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 32GB 3600MHz CL16
  • GPU: RX 9070 XT
  • Case: Coolermaster NR200P
  • Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB, Crucial 1TB SATA
  • PSU: Aresgame 850W SFX
  • Display(s): 27in Dell 4K 120hz
  • Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Assassin 120SE
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