New PC build

[Dei]

Hello everyone

I'm planning to upgrade my PC, so I wanted to share it with you, in case you can give me any advice to change or improve any thing. My budget is around 1500€ (im from Spain).
The main use will be gaming (Star Citizen, Doom, Elden Ring, Silent Hill 2 Remastered...).

I recently changed my generic "DELL 1080p 60Hz" monitor (I'm now using it as a secondary one) for a "Gigabyte M27Q-EK rev. 2.0 - 27" QHD IPS 165Hz 2560 x 1440".

 

My current rig:

 

• Motherboard: MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 4.1 Ghz
• Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4 2400 PC4-19200 16GB 4x8GB CL15
• GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti GAMING 8 GB GDDR5
• Storage: Samsung 860 EVO Basic SSD 500GB + Kioxia Exceria G2 SSD 1TB NVMe M.2 2280 + 4TB hard drive.
• PSU: Corsair RM750X V2 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular
• Cooling: Stock AMD cooler, that came with the CPU
• Case: NZXT H500i USB 3.1

 

What i'm thinking to build:

 

• Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz/5 GHz
• Memory: Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 6000MHz 32GB CL40   or   Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 6000MHz 32GB 2x16GB CL30 (probably in future going to upgrade to 64GB)
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 GAMING OC V2 12GB GDDR6X DLSS3
• Storage: For now i will reuse them all from the old rig, but in future i'll swap the 4TB HDD for an 2TB NVMe
• PSU: Corsair RMe Series RM850e 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular
• Cooling: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black CPU Air Cooler, 6 Heat Pipes, Dual 120mm TL-C12B PWM Fan (im not a huge fan of liquid cooling, hope this cooler will be enought)
• Case: Reusing the case (just need to check if the GPU is gonna fit, but i think there would be no problem)

Edit: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/mxT8n6

 

What do you think of this combination? Would it run good?

Thank you

Edited September 2, 2024 by Dei
Add pcpartpicker link

[venomtail]

13 minutes ago, Dei said:

• Motherboard: MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 4.1 Ghz
• Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4 2400 PC4-19200 16GB 4x8GB CL15
• GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti GAMING 8 GB GDDR5
• Storage: Samsung 860 EVO Basic SSD 500GB + Kioxia Exceria G2 SSD 1TB NVMe M.2 2280 + 4TB hard drive.
• PSU: Corsair RM750X V2 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular
• Cooling: Stock AMD cooler, that came with the CPU
• Case: NZXT H500i USB 3.1

Just upgrade to a 5800X3D and get a new GPU at a fraction of the price. 5700X3D is cheaper but I'd go all out and get as much performance to have it last longer. If NVIDIA look at newer Super series. You'll need a new proper cooler. You've had slow memory for ages, probs even give more fps to 2700 with 3200MHz. Get 3600MHz CL14 for 5800X3D.

 

1440p is the threshold where GPU starts having a far bigger workload. 5800X3D will get to stretch its legs.

[Dei]

14 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Just upgrade to a 5800X3D and get a new GPU at a fraction of the price. 5700X3D is cheaper but I'd go all out and get as much performance to have it last longer. If NVIDIA look at newer Super series. You'll need a new proper cooler. You've had slow memory for ages, probs even give more fps to 2700 with 3200MHz. Get 3600MHz CL14 for 5800X3D.

 

1440p is the threshold where GPU starts having a far bigger workload. 5800X3D will get to stretch its legs.

But the problem is that the actual MODO only has PCI-E 3.0, and as i was looking, from the RTX 2000 series all graphic cards use PCI-E 4.0.
It wouldn't generate bottleneck for the GPU?

[venomtail]

7 minutes ago, Dei said:

But the problem is that the actual MODO only has PCI-E 3.0, and as i was looking, from the RTX 2000 series all graphic cards use PCI-E 4.0.
It wouldn't generate bottleneck for the GPU?

With a big enough memory bus no. I think cards 4070 and up and RX7700XT and up are all fine even on older 3.0. PCIE lanes are also all backwards compatible, just data transfer is peak of lowest common denominator.

 

Secondly check your motherboard BIOS updates. Most ZEN+ generation boards had an update to see if they can get Gen 4.0 enabled for both storage and PCIE lanes. I was sort of unlucky as my board got storage upgrade but PCIE stays 3.0. I bought an RX6800 and there's no loss despite being on 3.0. I suspect MSI went through the same process. You'll need to update your motherboard likely anyways cause your motherboard came out before such a 5800X3D processor.

 

Make sure you update also to new widows format so you can enable ReBAR, bump in GPU performance. If not there was a link and guide how to reformat. Even an LTT video where Linus formatted it for a PC in his living room. Was a coincidence cause I was just about to do the same thing.

[Why_Me]

45 minutes ago, Dei said:

Hello everyone

I'm planning to upgrade my PC, so I wanted to share it with you, in case you can give me any advice to change or improve any thing. My budget is around 1500€ (im from Spain).
The main use will be gaming (Star Citizen, Doom, Elden Ring, Silent Hill 2 Remastered...).

I recently changed my generic "DELL 1080p 60Hz" monitor (I'm now using it as a secondary one) for a "Gigabyte M27Q-EK rev. 2.0 - 27" QHD IPS 165Hz 2560 x 1440".

 

My current rig:

 

• Motherboard: MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 4.1 Ghz
• Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4 2400 PC4-19200 16GB 4x8GB CL15
• GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti GAMING 8 GB GDDR5
• Storage: Samsung 860 EVO Basic SSD 500GB + Kioxia Exceria G2 SSD 1TB NVMe M.2 2280 + 4TB hard drive.
• PSU: Corsair RM750X V2 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular
• Cooling: Stock AMD cooler, that came with the CPU
• Case: NZXT H500i USB 3.1

 

What i'm thinking to build:

 

• Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz/5 GHz
• Memory: Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 6000MHz 32GB CL40   or   Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 6000MHz 32GB 2x16GB CL30 (probably in future going to upgrade to 64GB)
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 GAMING OC V2 12GB GDDR6X DLSS3
• Storage: For now i will reuse them all from the old rig, but in future i'll swap the 4TB HDD for an 2TB NVMe
• PSU: Corsair RMe Series RM850e 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular
• Cooling: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Black CPU Air Cooler, 6 Heat Pipes, Dual 120mm TL-C12B PWM Fan (im not a huge fan of liquid cooling, hope this cooler will be enought)
• Case: Reusing the case (just need to check if the GPU is gonna fit, but i think there would be no problem)

 

What do you think of this combination? Would it run good?

Thank you

You want DDR5-6000 CL30 for these AM5 cpu's if you intend on gaming.

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($419.00 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($90.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  ($599.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($95.35 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1391.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-30 12:05 EDT-0400

[podkall]

1 hour ago, Dei said:

Storage: For now i will reuse them all from the old rig, but in future i'll swap the 4TB HDD for an 2TB NVMe

no need swapping HDD, it can be kept as a storage and just using NVMe for OS and games that my need it,

 

1 hour ago, Dei said:

Case: Reusing the case (just need to check if the GPU is gonna fit, but i think there would be no problem)

check official website, or if its on pcpartpicker

 

1 hour ago, Dei said:

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 GAMING OC V2 12GB GDDR6X DLSS3

is AMD out of question in this hardware part?

 

1 hour ago, Dei said:

Memory: Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 6000MHz 32GB CL40   or   Kingston FURY Beast DDR5 6000MHz 32GB 2x16GB CL30 (probably in future going to upgrade to 64GB)

CL30 > CL40

 

it's gonna take looooong time before 32GB become obsolete, though we'll see..

[Dei]

On 8/30/2024 at 7:11 PM, podkall said:

is AMD out of question in this hardware part?

I have never had an AMD graphics card, and I had read at some point that they had some problems with drivers, and that they lacked features such as DLSS...
That Nvidia driver update support is better in the long term. I guess it's also a little fear of a brand I've never used.

What graphics card equivalent to RTX 4070 would you recommend?

[Starelementpoke]

1 hour ago, Dei said:

I have never had an AMD graphics card, and I had read at some point that they had some problems with drivers, and that they lacked features such as DLSS...
That Nvidia driver update support is better in the long term. I guess it's also a little fear of a brand I've never used.

What graphics card equivalent to RTX 4070 would you recommend?

Both companies have had their fair share of driver trouble. Historically AMDs drivers are the ones that get better overtime performance wise though you could also take that as Nvidia being better with them out the gate. Historical example of this would be the 970 and the 290. The AMD equivalents for the 4070 would be around the 7700xt, 7800xt probably, but if you want dlss support that's a perfectly fine reason to stick with Nvidia. If you plan on using a program that can leverage cuda as well also another reason to stick with Nvidia without issue. 

[podkall]

3 hours ago, Dei said:

and I had read at some point that they had some problems with drivers, and that they lacked features such as DLSS...

used to, now they have basically copies of 90% of Nvidia features,

 

the drivers issues too, used to be, a thing in a past, the only driver issues AMD may have is with very very brand new games, but then it doesn't mean Nvidia never has these issues with new games, and that the problems get solved once a new driver version is made and rolled out.

 

 

3 hours ago, Dei said:

What graphics card equivalent to RTX 4070 would you recommend?

7800 XT price wise, about same,

 

Nvidia has CUDA and stuff extra that AMD doesn't have, pretty much just creative software boost, more efficient RT performance,

 

AMD has, more VRAM, sometimes other specs like bus width can also be better, occasionally making 7800 XT better at same price in certain conditions.

 

Sometimes 7800 XT is better, sometimes it's 4070,

 

in few occasions the 7800 XT can match or surpass while both use DLSS/FSR,

 

in RT it's mostly a 4070 win, it's up to you if RT is what you really need or not.