Thoughts on this PC?

[EwanStpd]

Budget (including currency): £1900-ish (~$2443)

Country: United Kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CS2, other modern games, mostly CS

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

165hz monitor, upgrading from a 1070, i7 7700 pc, resolution will be stretched on CS2 but when im playing other games probably 1080p

How does it look?

[Mumintroll]

Do you know about the ongoing voltage problem with most 13th and 14th gen Intel cpu?

 

You could wait until Intel has released their microcode update somewhere mid august. As soon as you've built it then update bios and use Intel's baseline profile.

 

Or you could go for a good 12th gen Intel, might get one cheap.

Or go AMD instead.

 

Another thing is most home users doesn't need Win 11 Pro. You could save some more if you bought Home edition instead.

[Fireord36]

3 minutes ago, Mumintroll said:

Do you know about the ongoing voltage problem with most 13th and 14th gen Intel cpu?

 

You could wait until Intel has released their microcode update somewhere mid august. As soon as you've built it then update bios and use Intel's baseline profile.

 

Or you could go for a good 12th gen Intel, might get one cheap.

Or go AMD instead.

@EwanStpdId say go get the 7800x3d It is one of if not the best gaming CPUs on the planet and it maybe even a bit less

 

[Jeppes]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£39.11 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£140.84 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£106.58 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  (£559.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 Gold i 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1411.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 18:42 BST+0100

[EwanStpd]

3 minutes ago, Mumintroll said:

Do you know about the ongoing voltage problem with most 13th and 14th gen Intel cpu?

 

You could wait until Intel has released their microcode update somewhere mid august. As soon as you've built it then update bios and use Intel's baseline profile.

 

Or you could go for a good 12th gen Intel, might get one cheap.

Or go AMD instead.

Wow yeah just searched this up

To be honest with you I have only ever used intel CPU's, so I wouldn't even know where to start with AMD

are the 12th gen cpus that different from 13th gen performance-wise?

[EwanStpd]

2 minutes ago, Fireord36 said:

@EwanStpdI agree what are you looking to do with this PC?

 

Just looking for a good PC to have for a while and play a whole range of games on, though mostly CS2.

I haven't really had the opportunity to run modern games on my last PC since it was outdated, so I'd love to try out modern games aswell

[Fireord36]

1 minute ago, EwanStpd said:

Wow yeah just searched this up

To be honest with you I have only ever used intel CPU's, so I wouldn't even know where to start with AMD

are the 12th gen cpus that different from 13th gen performance-wise?

I only really know amd and I know them well so if you have questions ask away

[Fireord36]

3 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£39.11 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£140.84 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£106.58 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  (£559.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 Gold i 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1411.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 18:42 BST+0100

@EwanStpdThis is almost exactily how I would build it

[EwanStpd]

2 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£39.11 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£140.84 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£106.58 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card  (£559.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 Gold i 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1411.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 18:42 BST+0100

this actually looks really good, I have no experience with AMD cpus, how comparable is it to the i7 14700KF?

[podkall]

4 minutes ago, EwanStpd said:

Just looking for a good PC to have for a while and play a whole range of games on, though mostly CS2.

I haven't really had the opportunity to run modern games on my last PC since it was outdated, so I'd love to try out modern games aswell

your budget allows for fastest gaming CPU created, which is from AMD, the only advantage Intel has is multi-core performance, which depending on game is close to 0 advantage, since some games barely use multiple cores

[EwanStpd]

4 minutes ago, Fireord36 said:

I only really know amd and I know them well so if you have questions ask away

I've only ever heard good things about AMD cpus, I've only stuck with intel just because its familiar to me.

what AMD cpu would you recommend from my budget?

[EwanStpd]

5 minutes ago, podkall said:

your budget allows for fastest gaming CPU created, which is from AMD, the only advantage Intel has is multi-core performance, which depending on game is close to 0 advantage, since some games barely use multiple cores

Which CPU would that be?

[Fireord36]

3 minutes ago, EwanStpd said:

I've only ever heard good things about AMD cpus, I've only stuck with intel just because its familiar to me.

what AMD cpu would you recommend from my budget?

the 7800x3d the best gamming cpu on the planet

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-7800X3D-Desk-top-Processor-16-thread/dp/B0BTZB7F88/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mU27cwptUy7PTxaJ31s2PbKMJNasjXi6bz5-0kMysDZZFKz0k70nahNdQLUXioqylYQhfdKiaysyk0zkgdvjbw-RAhkzzoGutxcJ4UPoiQJAWbrrtuR2a3R2aMkuWRQ9U5RD4LCgjwpd4Gy992FOhIIim0D0kdqR8PnmMZxDAagXOaEwc7ZNUdsY1QRH1Rdlvc5DFIdjtYJMkECHDLSFyrIYv18ATKYGNLv2IErun5Q.f983raIcBd4r9VWMkfqWr1QBbtaQs_AF8f1E5Uo_rDM&dib_tag=se&keywords=7800x3d&qid=1722275710&sr=8-1

[Fireord36]

I love AMD and I am building a pc with their parts if you wanna take a look

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($58.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  ($549.97 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($115.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer Acer Nitro XV272U W2bmiiprx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor  ($221.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: 7800X3D Bundle with Mobo and RAM ($499.00)
Total: $1576.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 13:56 EDT-0400

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, EwanStpd said:

Which CPU would that be?

7800x3D

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *ASRock B650 PG LIGHTNING ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£138.78 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Western Digital WD_Black SN850X w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£97.79 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Palit GameRock GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (£879.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£88.75 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1731.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 19:02 BST+0100

[EwanStpd]

7 minutes ago, Fireord36 said:

I love AMD and I am building a pc with their parts if you wanna take a look

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($58.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card  ($549.97 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($115.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 - V2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer Acer Nitro XV272U W2bmiiprx 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Monitor  ($221.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: 7800X3D Bundle with Mobo and RAM ($499.00)
Total: $1576.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 13:56 EDT-0400

Looks pretty sick dang

[EwanStpd]

2 minutes ago, podkall said:

7800x3D

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£40.90 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: *ASRock B650 PG LIGHTNING ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£138.78 @ NeoComputers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: *Western Digital WD_Black SN850X w/Heatsink 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£97.79 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: *Palit GameRock GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card  (£879.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: *Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: *Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£88.75 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1731.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 19:02 BST+0100

I had no idea I could get this good of a deal holy hahahaha

[EwanStpd]

Cant believe im already £200-£300 from my original pricepoint, guess thats why you dont rely on just newegg for the parts

[podkall]

1 minute ago, EwanStpd said:

I had no idea I could get this good of a deal holy hahahaha

yeah, you can either get fastest AMD GPU or Nvidia equivalent on similar price which is 4080 Super

 

[podkall]

1 minute ago, EwanStpd said:

Cant believe im already £200-£300 from my original pricepoint, guess thats why you dont rely on just newegg for the parts

though, as you saw, VAT covers like 300 pounds, just VAT

[Fireord36]

@EwanStpdWhen are you buying the PC because idk if that 4080 deal will still have the deal and if the sale goes away then you can look at a 7900xtx which can be on par with the 4080 super in some games

[EwanStpd]

2 minutes ago, Fireord36 said:

@EwanStpdWhen are you buying the PC because idk if that 4080 deal will still have the deal and if the sale goes away then you can look at a 7900xtx which can be on par with the 4080 super in some games

Likely tomorrow or wednesday, yeah looking at it now looks like a today only deal.

[EwanStpd]

Thanks everybody I've saved £100 and actually got a much better computer out of it!

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wLKQmD

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£40.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£140.84 @ NeoComputers) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£106.58 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£769.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 Gold i 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - USB 64-bit  (£181.99 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £1805.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£40.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£149.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£101.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: *Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£769.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit  (£99.79 @ Senetic) 
Monitor: *MSI G272QPF E2 27.0" 2560 x 1440 180 Hz Monitor  (£188.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1915.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-29 22:34 BST+0100

[Why_Me]

30 minutes ago, EwanStpd said:

Thanks everybody I've saved £100 and actually got a much better computer out of it!

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wLKQmD

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£329.91 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£40.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£140.84 @ NeoComputers) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£95.54 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£106.58 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card  (£769.99 @ AWD-IT) 
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master V750 Gold i 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - USB 64-bit  (£181.99 @ MoreCoCo) 
Total: £1805.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

Avoid Cooler Master psu's and look for a full size ATX board. btw make sure your choice of psu is ATX 3.0 due to the adapter for these RTX 40XX cards.