New PC

[Creaxx]

Budget (including currency): 2500 EUR

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Coding, Training Basic AI Models , Video Editing & some Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Here is the parts list that I have created. I would like the system to be as quiet as possible. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated:

 

CPU: Ryzen 9 7950X3D

GPU: ASUS TUF RX 7900XT OC 

RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB @ 6400MT/s

Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX V2

Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360

Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow

Storage: Crucial P3 Plus

PSU: Seasonic Focus 850W 80+ Gold

Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G50D (1440p @ 180hz)

 

Thanks in advance!

[Somerandomtechyboi]

11 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

GPU: Radeon 7900XT

should be 7900xtx

 

11 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB @ 6400MT/s

6000c32/30 will work out of the box but you can also just manually set the 6400 kit to 6000 upon turning on xmp so no further tuning required (otherwise might aswell tune for ~6200)

 

11 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX V2

if you dont need x670 dont bother, besides there are boards like the b650 proart that can run x8 on two of the pcie x16 slots if you need the pcie lanes for a secondary card and afaik you only get x670 because its a high end board or you just need 5+ m.2 slots

 

11 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

Storage: Crucial P3 Plus

biggest flaw of the build do not buy this slow qlc trash unless its significantly cheaper than a dramless gen3, get a proper high end dram gen4 that should be around the same price or just buy a western digital sn580 if you want a half decent dramless drive that isnt stupid overpriced but isnt gonna get outpaced by a dram gen3

 

11 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

PSU: Seasonic Focus 850W 80+ Gold

might be abit overpriced maybe not just buy the cheapest psu with a 10 year warranty and youll be good

 

afaik this psu should have a 10 year warranty but if its a gm or one of their non fully modular units its warrantyless trash and yea sometimes i see pcpp listing the seasonic focus at a decent price but then you look at the link and see its not actually the focus

 

if you want to pay brand tax for seasonic or corsair then get one of their better units and not warrantyless trash like the rme or gm =p

[Creaxx]

2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

should be 7900xtx

 

6000c32/30 will work out of the box but you can also just manually set the 6400 kit to 6000 upon turning on xmp so no further tuning required (otherwise might aswell tune for ~6200)

 

if you dont need x670 dont bother, besides there are boards like the b650 proart that can run x8 on two of the pcie x16 slots if you need the pcie lanes for a secondary card and afaik you only get x670 because its a high end board or you just need 5+ m.2 slots

 

biggest flaw of the build do not buy this slow qlc trash unless its significantly cheaper than a dramless gen3, get a proper high end dram gen4 that should be around the same price or just buy a western digital sn580 if you want a half decent dramless drive that isnt stupid overpriced but isnt gonna get outpaced by a dram gen3

 

might be abit overpriced maybe not just buy the cheapest psu with a 10 year warranty and youll be good

 

afaik this psu should have a 10 year warranty but if its a gm or one of their non fully modular units its warrantyless trash and yea sometimes i see pcpp listing the seasonic focus at a decent price but then you look at the link and see its not actually the focus

 

if you want to pay brand tax for seasonic or corsair then get one of their better units and not warrantyless trash like the rme or gm =p

Hey thanks a lot for everything! I went with the 7900XT because the 7900XTX is 250 eur more expensive and i wasnt sure if its worth it, i will definitely get a better SSD and the ram you suggested!

[Creaxx]

10 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

should be 7900xtx

 

6000c32/30 will work out of the box but you can also just manually set the 6400 kit to 6000 upon turning on xmp so no further tuning required (otherwise might aswell tune for ~6200)

 

if you dont need x670 dont bother, besides there are boards like the b650 proart that can run x8 on two of the pcie x16 slots if you need the pcie lanes for a secondary card and afaik you only get x670 because its a high end board or you just need 5+ m.2 slots

 

biggest flaw of the build do not buy this slow qlc trash unless its significantly cheaper than a dramless gen3, get a proper high end dram gen4 that should be around the same price or just buy a western digital sn580 if you want a half decent dramless drive that isnt stupid overpriced but isnt gonna get outpaced by a dram gen3

 

might be abit overpriced maybe not just buy the cheapest psu with a 10 year warranty and youll be good

 

afaik this psu should have a 10 year warranty but if its a gm or one of their non fully modular units its warrantyless trash and yea sometimes i see pcpp listing the seasonic focus at a decent price but then you look at the link and see its not actually the focus

 

if you want to pay brand tax for seasonic or corsair then get one of their better units and not warrantyless trash like the rme or gm =p

Also may I ask what other case you would recommend. I was looking at the 4000D Airflow but it wont fir a 360 rad.

[Why_Me]

3 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

Also may I ask what other case you would recommend. I was looking at the 4000D Airflow but it wont fir a 360 rad.

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€105.89 @ Caseking) 
Total: €105.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-28 01:31 CEST+0200

[Creaxx]

5 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-216/

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€105.89 @ Caseking) 
Total: €105.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-28 01:31 CEST+0200

Thanks i will go with that!

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

Thanks i will go with that!

There are handful of good cases,

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fZLqCd

[Micro2000]

53 minutes ago, Creaxx said:

Budget (including currency): 2500 EUR

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Coding, Training Basic AI Models , Video Editing & some Gaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Here is the parts list that I have created. I would like the system to be as quiet as possible. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated:

 

CPU: Ryzen 9 7950X3D

GPU: ASUS TUF RX 7900XT OC 

RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64GB @ 6400MT/s

Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX V2

Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360

Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow

Storage: Crucial P3 Plus

PSU: Seasonic Focus 850W 80+ Gold

Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G50D (1440p @ 180hz)

 

Thanks in advance!

Everything looks great, but if you have left over budget, you can upgrade the RAM in terms of frequency, latency, or amount, or use all 4 slots with 16-32 GB each. If you don't have that much, get a small nvme SSD as a boot drive, preferably 256 GB or under. the 7900 GRE isn't worth it if you are using it for Basic AI, and if you're using Ethernet and the speed isn't enough, try to use the other available slots. Same for sound/WLAN/ports, etc.

[Micro2000]

Just now, Micro2000 said:

Everything looks great, but if you have left over budget, you can upgrade the RAM in terms of frequency, latency, or amount, or use all 4 slots with 16-32 GB each. If you don't have that much, get a small nvme SSD as a boot drive, preferably 256 GB or under. the 7900 GRE isn't worth it if you are using it for Basic AI, and if you're using Ethernet and the speed isn't enough, try to use the other available slots. Same for sound/WLAN/ports, etc.

and make sure you use expo, since xmp applies to intel.

[Hinjima]

37 minutes ago, Micro2000 said:

Everything looks great, but if you have left over budget, you can upgrade the RAM in terms of frequency, latency, or amount, or use all 4 slots with 16-32 GB each. If you don't have that much, get a small nvme SSD as a boot drive, preferably 256 GB or under. the 7900 GRE isn't worth it if you are using it for Basic AI, and if you're using Ethernet and the speed isn't enough, try to use the other available slots. Same for sound/WLAN/ports, etc.

You do see that he is planning on using a 7950X3D where the recommended frequency is 6000mhz since AM5 doesn't play very nice with anything higher than that for stability.

AND AM5 absolutely hate having all 4 RAM slots populated due to memory controller limitation making its very difficult to get it stable or even booted at anything above 5200mhz with 4 sticks.

This is why we have started to see 2x48GB or higher 2x RAM kits to make it easier to run on AM5 at higher speeds.

 

35 minutes ago, Micro2000 said:

and make sure you use expo, since xmp applies to intel.

XMP RAM will work for AMD/AM5 as well.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 hours ago, Hinjima said:

You do see that he is planning on using a 7950X3D where the recommended frequency is 6000mhz since AM5 doesn't play very nice with anything higher than that for stability

*with 1:1 uclk

 

you can go to 7600-8000 with 1/2 uclk but youll need to run closer to 8000 for any actual benifit over 6200-6400 1:1 and im not sure if the imc can handle dual rank at those speeds probably cause noone tests this stuff due to being too niche so no real data and just assumptions atleast for dual rank since single rank has been tested at those speeds, id refer to buildzoids vids on ddr5 8000 ocs for am5

 

2 hours ago, Micro2000 said:

Everything looks great, but if you have left over budget, you can upgrade the RAM in terms of frequency, latency, or amount, or use all 4 slots with 16-32 GB each. If you don't have that much, get a small nvme SSD as a boot drive, preferably 256 GB or under. the 7900 GRE isn't worth it if you are using it for Basic AI, and if you're using Ethernet and the speed isn't enough, try to use the other available slots. Same for sound/WLAN/ports, etc.

below 512gb value goes to shit and 512gb is already pretty meh value compared to 1tb, as long as it isnt so small that value goes to shit sure a boot drive + storage might be some nice redundancy incase windows fucks itself over

 

quad rank is complete garbage on these early ddr5 imcs so have fun trying to get 128gb/192gb at half decent speeds, quad stick isnt prefferable but 6000 dual rank 64gb/96gb should be doable since it is more of a stress on the board rather than the cpu though dont expect it to clock like 2 dimms unless you have a z790 classified and thatd still take a ton of effort to get stable, just run 2stick /1dpc whenever possible just so oc capabilities arent nuked including xmp/expo

 

best you can get for rams is from overclocking and no amount of paying more for xmp rams is ever going to beat overclocking them, so anything past 6400c32 or guaranteed hynix a die is mostly pointless other than 7200c34 that might be a slight bump in performance for intel systems (still wont beat manually tuned 7600-8800 ofc)

[Creaxx]

On 7/28/2024 at 3:37 AM, Hinjima said:

You do see that he is planning on using a 7950X3D where the recommended frequency is 6000mhz since AM5 doesn't play very nice with anything higher than that for stability.

AND AM5 absolutely hate having all 4 RAM slots populated due to memory controller limitation making its very difficult to get it stable or even booted at anything above 5200mhz with 4 sticks.

This is why we have started to see 2x48GB or higher 2x RAM kits to make it easier to run on AM5 at higher speeds.

 

XMP RAM will work for AMD/AM5 as well.

Hey thanks for the input. Does that mean that 2x32GB 6400mhz has a high chance of not working?

[Micro2000]

On 7/27/2024 at 5:37 PM, Hinjima said:

You do see that he is planning on using a 7950X3D where the recommended frequency is 6000mhz since AM5 doesn't play very nice with anything higher than that for stability.

AND AM5 absolutely hate having all 4 RAM slots populated due to memory controller limitation making its very difficult to get it stable or even booted at anything above 5200mhz with 4 sticks.

This is why we have started to see 2x48GB or higher 2x RAM kits to make it easier to run on AM5 at higher speeds.

 

XMP RAM will work for AMD/AM5 as well.

I actually didn't know that, I'm thinking of building an AM5 PC, so this is helpful for me.

[Hinjima]

7 hours ago, Micro2000 said:

I actually didn't know that, I'm thinking of building an AM5 PC, so this is helpful for me.

If you have any questions you can DM me as well.  I have built over 50 AM5 systems so far and I run one myself