Black & Purple PC

[madeira]

Budget (including currency): 2500$ CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Valorant, Cyberpunk, , Rainbow Six Siege, 2D/3D modeling/animation, Video editing,

Other details: My first build was helped by my friend but unfortunately, I am not friends with them anymore as I haven't talked to them in a long time but I have been looking into making a better looking and just overall better PC which I can easily replace parts aswell. I am not experienced at ALL with computers and I am unsure what parts are actually good. I will list below my current build and my dream build, I am going for a black pc with a purple RGB look, it'd be really helpful if people can help me out with the top tier parts available at the moment and look minimal but also in a good budget as canadian conversion is absolutely screwedd here and I am not the richest person you'll meet haha but i am dedicated to saving up. c:

 

When I was making my first build, (I had a pre-built PC at the time) my friend said stuff about power supplies being better at 80+ gold, platinum or smth like that and i'm not sure what that does so i assume all of you pc pros can help me out here and either just choose whats best for my build it'd be helpful haha

Bullet list:

• All Black Minimal PC look with Purple RGB
• Good for FPS games and animation, modeling, editing, etc.
• Made for 1920x1080.
• Over 200+ fps in games.
• RGB fans
• RGB minimal-looking graphics card if possible
• RGB RAM
• RGB or just purple cables
• Minimal black PC case with buttons on the bottom if possible
   

My current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bs22tn

 

The dream build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B3wdkJ

 

 

thank u c:

[jaslion]

Whats the problem with the current pc? Part from having a 4060ti in it the current pc should be plenty good as is?

 

R6s and valorant should do 200 fps already and cyberpunk simply put cant do that ever due to engine limits.

 

Also what monitor do you have? Do keep in mind that the difference between a 144hz and 240hz+ screen is incredibly super tiny to the point most people just do not percieve it at all. Then also the only games really able yo go past 120+ fps reliably are games MADE to do so. A lot of games run into harsh engine limits going to 100fps and beyond making it simply not possible to do so on any hardware.

 

 

[podkall]

You got a 5900x with a RTX 4060 Ti, unless this is somehow slow PC for you, it should manage to do what you're doing on the PC already.

 

I'm not saying this because you can't go for more, I'm saying this because you should wait before RTX 5000 series release, and prices drop, because despite upgrade being possible, on paper it's only marginally better.

 

I'm also saying this because RTX 4070 Ti Super costs 1000CAD, which is like half of your budget, and AM5 is new tech so it's still pretty expensive too.

 

 

Anyways, for advice/plan, I have that too,

 

1 hour ago, madeira said:

Bullet list:

• All Black Minimal PC look with Purple RGB
• Good for FPS games and animation, modeling, editing, etc.
• Made for 1920x1080.
• Over 200+ fps in games.
• RGB fans
• RGB minimal-looking graphics card if possible
• RGB RAM
• RGB or just purple cables
• Minimal black PC case with buttons on the bottom if possible

those are nice requirements, don't know what minimal means exactly,

 

as far as looks come, you seem to know what you want, but how about some practical things, like number of M.2 slots for SSDs on the motherboard for example?

 

it's very difficult to get both performance and aesthetics, the RGB fans alone can cost 50-100CAD just to get them all up in case,

 

1 hour ago, madeira said:

The dream build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B3wdkJ

 

now let's talk this build, this build costs a lot, the RTX 4090's price doesn't even display there, and even the cheapest 4090 would cost you your entire budget alone,

 

the CPU can be tricky to run but definitely manageable, I can explain further why,

 

the cooler is ok, don't know price wise but it would work,

 

the MB is overpriced unless you need some of it's overpriced featuers,

 

the RAM is bit slow, but not sure if you've factored in the potential instability at 4 RAM sticks, which is hard to run at fast speeds for DDR5 RAM,

the solution is to run them slower than their rated speeds if they're rated faster or just get 2 6000Mhz CL30 RAM,

 

the SSD is good but bit pricier, you can get cheaper SSD that catches up to this one pretty fairly without sacrificing too much,

 

the case is whatever as long as it fits the parts in if you like that case go for that case,

 

the PSU is bit expensive, you can get very very much cheaper PSU with no hassles.

 

 

 

 

I put together a build that's realistic about goals and makes achieving those goals sound real, all the parts are high quality, but high quality with lowest cost possible,

 

the part list in real life costs ~3200 CAD, but the list will say more because there's few more things listed (fans).

 

This list features a wide selection of parts filtered by cheapest, but you can check out the other options if you click on them, especially the cases,

(to see the selection you have to go to the link, here it only shows the cheapest options)

 

here's the list and I'll explain in detail below, what's going on inside it:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($484.31 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: *Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360L Core ARGB Liquid CPU Cooler  ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Memory: OLOy Blade RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  ($292.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($424.97 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: *PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1329.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS GX-850 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($44.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Deepcool CF120 Plus 52.5 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($44.98 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Corsair iCUE SP120 RGB ELITE 47.7 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($69.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST A-RGB 0dB 48.8 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Lian Li ST120 69.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($44.98 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: be quiet! Light Wings PWM high-speed 52.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($49.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PWM PST A-RGB 68 CFM 140 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($59.98 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Thermalright TL-C12C-S X3 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($45.93 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Corsair iCUE AR120 Digital RGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $3578.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-30 04:56 EDT-0400

 

 

• CPU is straight forward, x3D AM5 CPU, the 7900 CPUs take bit of patience to operate with, but their performance is worth it
• All the coolers will be able to cool the CPU, and they shine RGB and are black (they also should be pretty quiet)
• All the MB listed have at least 2 M.2 slots, all can easily handle CPU
• The RAM is the cheapest 64GB (2x32B) stick RAM that has RGB, the RGB costs 40 extra CAD, the cheapest 2x16GB RAM costs about 150 CAD
• The SSD is fast enough for both short writes of small files and doesn't slow down much when copying big files
• The RTX 4080 Super is an excellent upgrade from RTX 4060Ti, the build overall can get down to 2500 CAD budget if you get the RTX 4070Ti Super instead, but personally it doesn't feel as much of what the build could be (the Ti Super is 75% faster than 4060 TI, the RTX 4080 is 104% faster than 4060 Ti -> the price shows but so does the performance)
• And additionally, feels like waiting what comes out of RTX 5000 series and whether the older models get some sale price discounts is worth if your current PC isn't too much lacking, which I doubt it is anyways, I think your current PC is a beast but let's continue
• I put some variety of cases on the list that you can check out, they all look great, some feature RGB fans
• The PSUs on the list are cheap 850-1000W units, all can easily supply power to RTX 4080 Super specifically, even a 4090 though 1000W would leave nice headroom for that GPU
• And fans, for fans I'd recommend not just looks but prices, some fans cost more in packs, some fans cost less buying 1 by 1 for some reason
• Additionally for fans, you want to figure out their connection, they need RGB and power connection, one of the best ways is using fan hub if you want to control the fan speed, because fan speed is only controlled if you plug the fans into MB or fan controller, otherwise they will run at full speed
• I don't know much about these fan hubs and stuff, but I do know some of the things you can get for the fans help with this

 

 

On my last and final note I want to stress, that my build is great, but that doesn't mean you can't go for the parts you like, for example that case you had, you can use that one if the parts fit.

 

As @jaslion mentioned, your PC is already good fast, even if you have budget right now to build a PC, you could hold out and wait, so you can potentially buy a proper and better PC instead.

 

The jump from RTX 4060 Ti to RTX 4070 Ti Super is substantial, but it also feels like nothing believe it or not, and I know that this type of wanting more can go for endless time,

the fact of the matter is, if you get RTX 4070 Ti Super, you will miss out on the potential of what the RTX 4080 Super could have brought.

 

One thing is to spend money and enjoy the PC you got yourself, but the other thing is perspective.

 

If you were coming from a potato PC, something like 3600 Ryzen and RTX 3060 for example, then sure, but you got 5900x and 4060 Ti, and those aren't slow.

 

Just have a bit of patience, and perhaps if you're tech savvy enough, tune your current DDR4 RAM.

 

I believe it will be worth waiting to get the 4080 Super.

[podkall]

7 minutes ago, podkall said:

Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 62 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($44.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Deepcool CF120 Plus 52.5 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($44.98 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Corsair iCUE SP120 RGB ELITE 47.7 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($69.99 @ Best Buy Canada)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST A-RGB 0dB 48.8 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Lian Li ST120 69.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($44.98 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: be quiet! Light Wings PWM high-speed 52.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($49.99 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PWM PST A-RGB 68 CFM 140 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($59.98 @ Memory Express)
Case Fan: Thermalright TL-C12C-S X3 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($45.93 @ Amazon Canada)
Case Fan: Corsair iCUE AR120 Digital RGB 59 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($74.98 @ Amazon Canada)

also I didn't check if buying them individually instead of in pack doesn't cost less

[jaslion]

1 hour ago, podkall said:

also I didn't check if buying them individually instead of in pack doesn't cost less

Oh btw Id actually recommend a bequiet fx500 aa that case is FULLY LIT by rgb strips and fans PREINSTALLED! Super low effort maximum rgb out of the box!

 

And the fans are alsp actually quite decent and to boot its cheaper!

 

I would avoid the 7900x3d as in gaming its usually the same if not worse than the 7900x due to it being only 6 3d cache cores and in produxticity its always worse than the 7900x. So not a cpu to go for.

 

[podkall]

10 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Oh btw Id actually recommend a bequiet fx500 aa that case is FULLY LIT by rgb strips and fans PREINSTALLED! Super low effort maximum rgb out of the box!

it goes well with the silent wings RGB AIO I assume

 

10 minutes ago, jaslion said:

I would avoid the 7900x3d as in gaming its usually the same if not worse than the 7900x due to it being only 6 3d cache cores and in produxticity its always worse than the 7900x. So not a cpu to go for.

is 7900x3D a flop? I thought it'd be decent like 7900x but surpass it in gaming due to cache?

[jaslion]

11 minutes ago, podkall said:

it goes well with the silent wings RGB AIO I assume

 

is 7900x3D a flop? I thought it'd be decent like 7900x but surpass it in gaming due to cache?

Oh no its a MASSIVE flop like it sucks at the task its designed for due to having too little x3d cores and then because its lowered clocked due to being a x3d chip it is worse at well everything.

 

The 7950x3d also suffers some from this its why the 7800x3d is THE best gaming cpu as its all x3d so games cant suddenly be running on non x3d cores.

 

Oh and yes that integrates very nicely with their aio.

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Oh no its a MASSIVE flop like it sucks at the task its designed for due to having too little x3d cores and then because its lowered clocked due to being a x3d chip it is worse at well everything.

 

The 7950x3d also suffers some from this its why the 7800x3d is THE best gaming cpu as its all x3d so games cant suddenly be running on non x3d cores.

 

Oh and yes that integrates very nicely with their aio.

yeah yeah, not their AIO, I recommended the pure wings in my buid it's one of the options,

 

but I gues it does make sense, 7900x3D is like a 5600x3D if it were AM4, oh right, 16/2 is 8 and that's basically 7800x3D

 

unlucky for AMD that they didn't consider skipping 7900x3D and doing the 7800x3D instead first

[madeira]

3 hours ago, jaslion said:

Whats the problem with the current pc? Part from having a 4060ti in it the current pc should be plenty good as is?

 

R6s and valorant should do 200 fps already and cyberpunk simply put cant do that ever due to engine limits.

 

Also what monitor do you have? Do keep in mind that the difference between a 144hz and 240hz+ screen is incredibly super tiny to the point most people just do not percieve it at all. Then also the only games really able yo go past 120+ fps reliably are games MADE to do so. A lot of games run into harsh engine limits going to 100fps and beyond making it simply not possible to do so on any hardware.

 

 

My games only get around 80-100 fps which sometimes drop randomly which is annoying, and with my specs i feel it should go higher than that. i clean my pc every 2 weeks but i'm not sure if that can fix it. i've tried looking at a lot of tutorials to try and fix it but nothing has helped me so far and i'm not very familiar with bios and i don't want to risk screwing something up again since my bios already doesn't work anymore (unless i change it to a hdmi cable) after i tried updating my bios.

 

My monitor is

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-24-fhd-165hz-0-5ms-gtg-tn-led-g-sync-gaming-monitor-vg248qg-black/13819627?cmp=knc-s-21255164524&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwhIS0BhBqEiwADAUhc96zPJpWmZfiYAhi5LJr9fRUkyEsZKNCEV76eWK-N_kIDvMV0pPi3xoCfw0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

i am also planning to upgrade my monitor, i am a competitive FPS player hoping to go pro in the future and the high Hz for a monitor are actually helpful according to pro players.

[madeira]

3 hours ago, podkall said:

as far as looks come, you seem to know what you want, but how about some practical things, like number of M.2 slots for SSDs on the motherboard for example?

again, as i stated in my main message i know absolutely nothing about pcs; i dont know what a m.2 slot is, i just know like bios, cpu, psu, etc. basic stuff haha so sorry :')

the reason why i want a minimal looking pc is because of my room, my room is very minimal white, black and purple and i want to match that look with my pc as well.

 

 

3 hours ago, podkall said:

The jump from RTX 4060 Ti to RTX 4070 Ti Super is substantial, but it also feels like nothing believe it or not, and I know that this type of wanting more can go for endless time,

the fact of the matter is, if you get RTX 4070 Ti Super, you will miss out on the potential of what the RTX 4080 Super could have brought.

i'm not sure if the pcpartpicker site is bugged out but i have experienced it not letting me remove items i was looking at but decided to choose another item but; on the list for me it says a 4090 not a 4070.

 

 

3 hours ago, podkall said:

You got a 5900x with a RTX 4060 Ti, unless this is somehow slow PC for you, it should manage to do what you're doing on the PC already.

to answer your question, two things;

10 minutes ago, madeira said:

My games only get around 80-100 fps which sometimes drop randomly which is annoying, and with my specs i feel it should go higher than that. i clean my pc every 2 weeks but i'm not sure if that can fix it. i've tried looking at a lot of tutorials to try and fix it but nothing has helped me so far and i'm not very familiar with bios and i don't want to risk screwing something up again since my bios already doesn't work anymore (unless i change it to a hdmi cable) after i tried updating my bios.

reason why i'm upgrading is because i've been wanting to give my mother a good pc but the pre-built pc i had given to her has old parts and is kind of slow now which annoys her. i also just want to get a computer that has a nice minimal look, as the computer i have right now doesn't really have that, and i don't quite like the case. and i just want it to be up to date to the highest specs available so i can get the most out of everything i need and want, and so i can just switch each part around 3 years later for when something better is out, and continue that cycle.

[podkall]

3 minutes ago, madeira said:

i'm not sure if the pcpartpicker site is bugged out but i have experienced it not letting me remove items i was looking at but decided to choose another item but; on the list for me it says a 4090 not a 4070.

if you browse GPUs and click add on any, it will add onto your list, to remove parts from your list, you just press this:

 

also the link changes when you make changes

 

11 minutes ago, madeira said:

reason why i'm upgrading is because i've been wanting to give my mother a good pc but the pre-built pc i had given to her has old parts and is kind of slow now which annoys her. i also just want to get a computer that has a nice minimal look, as the computer i have right now doesn't really have that, and i don't quite like the case. and i just want it to be up to date to the highest specs available so i can get the most out of everything i need and want, and so i can just switch each part around 3 years later for when something better is out, and continue that cycle.

that is reasonable, but if your mom isn't demanding, you could get her a PC for no more than 800 CAD

 

as for the PC, we can help you get it going if it's not performing as it should

[madeira]

On 6/30/2024 at 9:06 AM, podkall said:

if you browse GPUs and click add on any, it will add onto your list, to remove parts from your list, you just press this:

 

also the link changes when you make changes

i know how it works, but it bugs whenever i go into my saved list after changing a part, it'll go back to an old part i had picked out.

 

On 6/30/2024 at 9:06 AM, podkall said:

that is reasonable, but if your mom isn't demanding, you could get her a PC for no more than 800 CAD

she's not demanding but my mom is also a hardcore gamer haha, she plays a lot of variety of games with me and the pc i gave her was around 1000 CAD which was way less than enough specs for her needs according to her, as i've set up her settings and she wouldn't get a lot of fps.

[podkall]

Just now, madeira said:

i know how it works, but it bugs whenever i go into my saved list after changing a part, it'll go back to an old part i had picked out.

if you have saved list, you need to edit it, make changes and then save it again

 

2 minutes ago, madeira said:

she's not demanding but my mom is also a hardcore gamer haha, she plays a lot of variety of games with me and the pc i gave her was around 1000 CAD which was way less than enough specs for her needs according to her, as i've set up her settings and she wouldn't get a lot of fps.

what'S her PC?