Crazy Memory Usage

[Smallshortround]

Im having some problems when using my pc where the memory usage is crazy high and makes my pc freeze up from time to time when it gets to 95%-100% usage.  I know windows does caching to speed stuff up and will use that space if necessary for current tasks, but it says its all in use and I have no idea why or what is using it.  No matter what programs I have open or closed it stays between 60%-100% usage and its not cached. 

Any ideas on whats causing this?

[ARandomPerson]

Go to the Processes Tab and sort by memory usage

Edit: I completely missed 

37 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

No matter what programs I have open or closed it stays between 60%-100% usage and its not cached. 

In all honesty if it was me, I would back up my PC and reinstall Windows

Edited June 12, 2024 by ARandomPerson
Missed details and typo

[Dedayog]

40 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

Im having some problems when using my pc where the memory usage is crazy high and makes my pc freeze up from time to time when it gets to 95%-100% usage.  I know windows does caching to speed stuff up and will use that space if necessary for current tasks, but it says its all in use and I have no idea why or what is using it.  No matter what programs I have open or closed it stays between 60%-100% usage and its not cached. 

Any ideas on whats causing this?

Well, it looks like you're using your PC, due to CPU and GPU usage.  So why not tell us what you have going on?

 

If you can reach this tab, you already saw the Process list.  What are you using actively, and what are you using passively?

 

Supposedly you're a game developer using Unity, how much RAM does that process take?    Are you using that and compiling a game?

[Eigenvektor]

Task Manager isn't able to list everything in details, for example the memory used by things like virtual machines or disk cache isn't included, but still counts towards total usage. Any chance you have a VM running or are you using any disk caching software? Otherwise it might also be malware, so if you have absolutely no idea what might be using memory a malware scan might be in order.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Task Manager isn't able to list everything in details, for example the memory used by things like virtual machines or disk cache isn't included, but still counts towards total usage. Any chance you have a VM running or are you using any disk caching software? Otherwise it might also be malware, so if you have absolutely no idea what might be using memory a malware scan might be in order.

It's not hard to list the things you're actively doing, though.

 

I mean, I KNOW when I have Fallout 76 running, and looking at his CPU and most obviously GPU usage.... he's doing SOMETHING.

 

For example, if I have Fallout 76 running and then I open Infection Zone... I'll work my way to 32GB used and then start wondering if my 7800X3D can run 4 dimms or not

 

 

[goatedpenguin]

Are you running hyper-v?(it caches mem and makes it appear as if it is being used when its just sort of "reserved") By any chance and show all the processes that are running based on mem usage. 

[Eigenvektor]

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

It's not hard to list the things you're actively doing, though.

Absolutely. As you said, CPU and GPU usage suggests something is running, so a look at details definitely wouldn't hurt. I'm just pointing out that memory usage in details might not add up to the full amount. For example if the usage comes from a virtual machine, then its full memory usage might not be visible in details.

[Smallshortround]

1 hour ago, Eigenvektor said:

Absolutely. As you said, CPU and GPU usage suggests something is running, so a look at details definitely wouldn't hurt. I'm just pointing out that memory usage in details might not add up to the full amount. For example if the usage comes from a virtual machine, then its full memory usage might not be visible in details.

 

1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

It's not hard to list the things you're actively doing, though.

 

I mean, I KNOW when I have Fallout 76 running, and looking at his CPU and most obviously GPU usage.... he's doing SOMETHING.

 

For example, if I have Fallout 76 running and then I open Infection Zone... I'll work my way to 32GB used and then start wondering if my 7800X3D can run 4 dimms or not

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Eigenvektor said:

Task Manager isn't able to list everything in details, for example the memory used by things like virtual machines or disk cache isn't included, but still counts towards total usage. Any chance you have a VM running or are you using any disk caching software? Otherwise it might also be malware, so if you have absolutely no idea what might be using memory a malware scan might be in order.

 

1 hour ago, ARandomPerson said:

Go to the Processes Tab and sort by memory usage

Edit: I completely missed 

In all honesty if it was me, I would back up my PC and reinstall Windows

Sorry if this is hard to read, I couldnt think of any other way to show it.  But I was in a scene in unity at the time, but im pretty much idle now with only a couple of things open and its at 79% with most of it not cached.  Then when I run stuff like unity it jsut adds to that getting to the 90% and stuff like that.  Ohh and I dont run any vms or anything like that, i dont even know how to do that stuff.

[goatedpenguin]

How much ram do you have?

[Smallshortround]

2 minutes ago, goatedpenguin said:

How much ram do have?

32g

G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory

[Coachdude]

Try checking if you have fast startup enabled in the power options. Go to Control Panel>Hardware and Sound>Power Options, and then on the left hand side click "Choose what the power buttons do", and then click on the top option "Change settings that are currently unavailable."  If fast startup is enabled, disable it and reboot, and see if your ram usage goes down. I've had this happen on multiple machines and disabling this option usually alleviates unnecessarily high ram usage.

[Smallshortround]

6 hours ago, Coachdude said:

Try checking if you have fast startup enabled in the power options. Go to Control Panel>Hardware and Sound>Power Options, and then on the left hand side click "Choose what the power buttons do", and then click on the top option "Change settings that are currently unavailable."  If fast startup is enabled, disable it and reboot, and see if your ram usage goes down. I've had this happen on multiple machines and disabling this option usually alleviates unnecessarily high ram usage.

Thanks, but sadly no, I already had this option off.

[vanpuffelen]

In all honesty, reinstalling Windows (as @ARandomPerson said) is the best option. It could be a virus, too. Windows Defender should be able to protect itself from that, though.

19 hours ago, Smallshortround said:

 

 

 

Sorry if this is hard to read, I couldnt think of any other way to show it.  But I was in a scene in unity at the time, but im pretty much idle now with only a couple of things open and its at 79% with most of it not cached.  Then when I run stuff like unity it jsut adds to that getting to the 90% and stuff like that.  Ohh and I dont run any vms or anything like that, i dont even know how to do that stuff.

Have you tried sorting out what consumes the most RAM by clicking on the "Memory" option, as I didn't see you select that option in your screenshots?

(I just realized the screenshot I took shows my GPU is at 100%, but it's fine.)

[goatedpenguin]

Hmmm does your pc slow down despite the ram usage dumb question ik but does it or no? I would also use the sysinternals process viewer which way more robust.

[Smallshortround]

48 minutes ago, goatedpenguin said:

Hmmm does your pc slow down despite the ram usage dumb question ik but does it or no? I would also use the sysinternals process viewer which way more robust.

Ya it does and will lock up near 100%.  Plus when I try and do some stuff like bake a scene's lighting in unity it will give me an out of system memory error.  But ill try that viewer and see what it says

[Smallshortround]

2 hours ago, vanpuffelen said:

In all honesty, reinstalling Windows (as @ARandomPerson said) is the best option. It could be a virus, too. Windows Defender should be able to protect itself from that, though.

Have you tried sorting out what consumes the most RAM by clicking on the "Memory" option, as I didn't see you select that option in your screenshots?

(I just realized the screenshot I took shows my GPU is at 100%, but it's fine.)

I might have to do a windows reinstall at this point.

And I didnt sort by memory before, but in the images it has pretty much everything and I did it now and I dont see anything out of the ordinary and nothing taking much memory

[goatedpenguin]

35 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

Ya it does and will lock up near 100%.  Plus when I try and do some stuff like bake a scene's lighting in unity it will give me an out of system memory error.  But ill try that viewer and see what it says

Okay and do you have any apps running in your system tray which has the “^” symbol on the right of the taskbar?

[vanpuffelen]

34 minutes ago, Smallshortround said:

I might have to do a windows reinstall at this point.

And I didnt sort by memory before, but in the images it has pretty much everything and I did it now and I dont see anything out of the ordinary and nothing taking much memory

Whilst you're busy reinstalling Windows, I think it's also a great idea to maybe check that your BIOS isn't screwed up either.

[Smallshortround]

16 minutes ago, goatedpenguin said:

Okay and do you have any apps running in your system tray which has the “^” symbol on the right of the taskbar?

a few ya, but not too much, there is hotspot shield for a vpn, steam, windows power toys, translucent tb, wallpaper engine, medal, discord, epic games and some windows stuff

[Smallshortround]

15 minutes ago, vanpuffelen said:

Whilst you're busy reinstalling Windows, I think it's also a great idea to maybe check that your BIOS isn't screwed up either.

im not too good with bios stuff I just have pbo I think its called on and I havent messed with it otherwise.  What types of things would I look for?  Imma hold off on a windows reinstall for a while in case I can figure this out.

[goatedpenguin]

1 hour ago, Smallshortround said:

im not too good with bios stuff I just have pbo I think its called on and I havent messed with it otherwise.  What types of things would I look for?  Imma hold off on a windows reinstall for a while in case I can figure this out.

Updating ur bios is important when u have issues like these, have you also enabled re size bar and xmp and above 4g decoding even though thats unrelated to your problem? 

[Smallshortround]

15 hours ago, goatedpenguin said:

Updating ur bios is important when u have issues like these, have you also enabled re size bar and xmp and above 4g decoding even though thats unrelated to your problem? 

I updated my bois and ran it for about 8 hours apparently already had thoes settings on in my bois, I think it was some auto thing from asus.  But Sadly the memory usage is still super high and not cached, just all in use on nothing.

[goatedpenguin]

Did you download anything suspicious? I would just do a clean reinstall at this point.

[Smallshortround]

21 hours ago, goatedpenguin said:

Did you download anything suspicious? I would just do a clean reinstall at this point.

Not anything I can think of, but ya, clean install is gonna have to happen.