Help with ram, hardware reserved

[CL0NED]

Hi,

I am currently using corsair vengeance 2x16gb 3200mhz on a azrock b450m pro4, w/ ryzen 5 2600, and gtx 1070. When I use lanes A2 and B2 my system reserves a whole stick of ram and my XMP doesn't work. I just switched to A1 and B1 to see if it makes a difference, and the system no longer reserves a whole stick of ram, but my xmp still doesn't work. However, I have heard that I shouldn't use A1 and B1 for dual channel, however, if i switch to A2 and B2 I only have one stick of usable memory.

[BiotechBen]

5 minutes ago, CL0NED said:

Hi,

I am currently using corsair vengeance 2x16gb 3200mhz on a azrock b450m pro4, w/ ryzen 5 2600, and gtx 1070. When I use lanes A2 and B2 my system reserves a whole stick of ram and my XMP doesn't work. I just switched to A1 and B1 to see if it makes a difference, and the system no longer reserves a whole stick of ram, but my xmp still doesn't work. However, I have heard that I shouldn't use A1 and B1 for dual channel, however, if i switch to A2 and B2 I only have one stick of usable memory.

Are those LPX sticks?

[CL0NED]

3 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Are those LPX sticks?

They aren't LPX

[BiotechBen]

8 minutes ago, CL0NED said:

They aren't LPX

Cool, then you may have a little more luck.

 

Good news: better than the LPX sticks 

 

Bad news: the xmp profile on those sticks is a coin toss whether it'll work on with that setup (I had a set of lpx 3200 c16 sticks, a 2600x, and a b450 pro4 board.)

 

 

1. Make sure you are running the newest bios that still supports the 2600 (some revisions may drop support for ryzen 2000 and older) 

2. If the sticks are still not booting at the xmp profile: you'll want 16-18-18-36 timings at 1.375v @2866mhz (2933 may work, ymmv) the memory controller on the 2600 is hit or miss: some are really good, some aren't. My 2600x was able to do 2933 at like 98% stability, I ended up dropping to 2866 because I didn't want to keep dealing with a 1 in 100 bsod.

[CL0NED]

2 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Cool, then you may have a little more luck.

 

Good news: better than the LPX sticks 

 

Bad news: the xmp profile on those sticks is a coin toss whether it'll work on with that setup (I had a set of lpx 3200 c16 sticks, a 2600x, and a b450 pro4 board.)

 

 

1. Make sure you are running the newest bios that still supports the 2600 (some revisions may drop support for ryzen 2000 and older) 

2. If the sticks are still not booting at the xmp profile: you'll want 16-18-18-36 timings at 1.375v @2866mhz (2933 may work, ymmv) the memory controller on the 2600 is hit or miss: some are really good, some aren't. My 2600x was able to do 2933 at like 98% stability, I ended up dropping to 2866 because I didn't want to keep dealing with a 1 in 100 bsod.

Hey,

Thanks for the response. I looked on the ASrock website, and it says it doesn't recommend updating bios for my cpu. There is no issue with booting, xmp just doesn't set, i made sure I saved etc. Is there an issue with using A1 and B1 slots for dual channel, I checked my manual and it seems like there isn't an issue, but the support speeds for dual channel is lowered. A1 and B1 seems to be the only slots works on my mobo, which sucks. 

 

[BiotechBen]

35 minutes ago, CL0NED said:

Hey,

Thanks for the response. I looked on the ASrock website, and it says it doesn't recommend updating bios for my cpu. There is no issue with booting, xmp just doesn't set, i made sure I saved etc. Is there an issue with using A1 and B1 slots for dual channel, I checked my manual and it seems like there isn't an issue, but the support speeds for dual channel is lowered. A1 and B1 seems to be the only slots works on my mobo, which sucks. 

 

Which BIOS Rev are you currently on? 4.20 (nice) was what mine shipped with and I had success on. 

You should be able to reach those speeds whether it be a1b1 or a2b2 (pretty forgiving board I found, so long as you provide enough voltage). Give it a try with those settings and see if you can get stable operation.

[CL0NED]

4 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Which BIOS Rev are you currently on? 4.20 (nice) was what mine shipped with and I had success on. 

You should be able to reach those speeds whether it be a1b1 or a2b2 (pretty forgiving board I found, so long as you provide enough voltage). Give it a try with those settings and see if you can get stable operation.

I am currently on 3.90, i was shipped with that. I will tinker around with it tomorrow as it is getting late for me, I really appreciate the replies. I will let you know how it goes! 

[CL0NED]

12 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

Which BIOS Rev are you currently on? 4.20 (nice) was what mine shipped with and I had success on. 

You should be able to reach those speeds whether it be a1b1 or a2b2 (pretty forgiving board I found, so long as you provide enough voltage). Give it a try with those settings and see if you can get stable operation.

Hey, I gave it a try this morning and it doesn't seem to work. Whenever I set a higher speed w/ the voltage and timings you said it fails to retrain and just boots from recovery mode. 

[CL0NED]

16 minutes ago, CL0NED said:

Hey, I gave it a try this morning and it doesn't seem to work. Whenever I set a higher speed w/ the voltage and timings you said it fails to retrain and just boots from recovery mode. 

12 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

Which BIOS Rev are you currently on? 4.20 (nice) was what mine shipped with and I had success on. 

You should be able to reach those speeds whether it be a1b1 or a2b2 (pretty forgiving board I found, so long as you provide enough voltage). Give it a try with those settings and see if you can get stable operation.

I switched back to a2 and b2 slots, and my hardware reserved problem seemed to have magically gone away! running at 2933 w/ the timings you said and the voltage. Is it worth trying to go to 3200 with the ryzen 5 2600?

 

 

[BiotechBen]

1 hour ago, CL0NED said:

I switched back to a2 and b2 slots, and my hardware reserved problem seemed to have magically gone away! running at 2933 w/ the timings you said and the voltage. Is it worth trying to go to 3200 with the ryzen 5 2600?

 

 

I was never able to get above 2933 with any morsel of stability. I got one stepping above 2933, but it was maybe 10% stable, and was pushing nearly 1.4v, which is not ideal. Some people have gotten to 3200 on ryzen 2000, but it's not very common. Can't guarantee stability @2933, but if it doesn't work: dropping back to 2866 should be, (you may get a bsod maybe quarterly because Windows is hot garbage)

[CL0NED]

2 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

I was never able to get above 2933 with any morsel of stability. I got one stepping above 2933, but it was maybe 10% stable, and was pushing nearly 1.4v, which is not ideal. Some people have gotten to 3200 on ryzen 2000, but it's not very common. Can't guarantee stability @2933, but if it doesn't work: dropping back to 2866 should be, (you may get a bsod maybe quarterly because Windows is hot garbage)

For sure, 2933 seems fine for me at moment. I really appreciate the help you have give me!