is my pcpartpicker list any good?

[busby_bee_boy]

Budget (including currency): £700 ish

Country: uk

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: minecraft, roblox,splitgate, visual studio code, obs, maybe some fancy apps probs idk

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

this is the list ive copied and changed a bit from a youtube video but there is an incompatability with somethinghttps://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/2XhfgB

ive got keyboard, mouse, mic, streamdeck, etc so no peripherals needed

ive got a hp elitebook 820 g3 rn (8gb ram, i7-6500U, 256gb ssd)

looking to buy towards july/august time so in a few months

if you could recomend different motherboards with wifi included in it then that would be fantastic as i cant use ethernet

[ImWilly]

It's overall a nice decent budget build

 

The only thing I would suggest is to change the PSU to either  Cooler Master MWE V2,  Be Quiet Pure Power, or Corsair RMe

[busby_bee_boy]

3 minutes ago, ImWilly said:

It's overall a nice decent budget build

 

The only thing I would suggest is to change the PSU to either  Cooler Master MWE V2,  Be Quiet Pure Power, or Corsair RMe

ive added the be quiet! Pure Power 11 400 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply for 56 pounds, but what do i need to do about the cpu incompatability thing?

[Dedayog]

15 minutes ago, busby_bee_boy said:

ive added the be quiet! Pure Power 11 400 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply for 56 pounds, but what do i need to do about the cpu incompatability thing?

Most likely nothing.  Unless that board was manufactured 3 years ago, it will have a BIOS that can run the 5600 just fine.  If it's an old shelf sittter, you would need to update the BIOS with a previous gen chip like a 1600 or 3600, etc.

 

Can you find a B550 that is nice and cheap, would be a more guaranteed BIOS.

[busby_bee_boy]

4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Most likely nothing.  Unless that board was manufactured 3 years ago, it will have a BIOS that can run the 5600 just fine.  If it's an old shelf sittter, you would need to update the BIOS with a previous gen chip like a 1600 or 3600, etc.

 

Can you find a B550 that is nice and cheap, would be a more guaranteed BIOS.

would either of these work with bios for the 5600? and wifi?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asrock-B550-Phantom-Motherboard-Supports/dp/B089VTZ83Q
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asrock-B550-PRO4-Motherboard-Supports/dp/B089W2ZTHF

the two cheapest i found

[Dedayog]

58 minutes ago, busby_bee_boy said:

would either of these work with bios for the 5600? and wifi?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asrock-B550-Phantom-Motherboard-Supports/dp/B089VTZ83Q
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Asrock-B550-PRO4-Motherboard-Supports/dp/B089W2ZTHF

the two cheapest i found

I use the ASROck Pro 4 and it's solid and needed no BIOS update to run the 5600 I have.  Grab that.

[busby_bee_boy]

10 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I use the ASROck Pro 4 and it's solid and needed no BIOS update to run the 5600 I have.  Grab that.

thank youuu

[Somerandomtechyboi]

For 700£ yea its pretty awful mainly due to buying the now dead am4 platform new cause am4 is only good when you already have it or you buy used cpus and boards

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LcTQ28

5600x + 3080 + 32gb 3600c18

 

Heres a very gpu heavy build but you do get quite a good gpu, and last time i checked uk fb marketplace funnily enough 6800xt seem to be more expensive than 3080 which you can find somewhat consistently around the 350£ mark, yes a used b3/450 like the tomahawk or equivalent is preffered and usually cheaper (50£ or less) but ill put a new option in if you dont wanna bother looking for a used board, and definitely used cpu cause thats also a pretty big part of buying am4

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RKm9ZJ

7600 + 6700xt + 32gb 6000c32

 

Heres a more allrounder build based on am5 so you can upgrade to future cpus without having to swap mobo or rams out

 

For list of improvements on both variations cause theyre just cpu mobo ram gpu combos

 

Used case which should save quite abit of money, might even be able to get one for free if someones throwing one out, better off cutting cost here since its just a hunk of metal that doesnt contribute to performance, though the matrexx 40 3fs is a good choice and its pretty cheap so if you can spare the cash without cutting on specs then thatd personally be my pick

 

Used gpu which will be alot better than whatever new crap you can get for that price, yes even the 6700xt will outperform the 7600 and by quite alot at that, especially a 3080 (= 6800xt)

Btw 3080 and 6800xt = 4070

 

Ram has doubled to 32gb

 

Much faster dram gen4 1tb drive as there wasnt that much of a price diff between the cheapest dram gen3 and this high end dram gen4

 

As for wifi yeah probably wanna get a card for that, for the am5 build theres the b650m gaming plus wifi at 140£ but for the am4 build you are forced to look for used wifi boards or use a wifi card

[busby_bee_boy]

On 4/13/2024 at 6:52 PM, Somerandomtechyboi said:

For 700£ yea its pretty awful mainly due to buying the now dead am4 platform new cause am4 is only good when you already have it or you buy used cpus and boards

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LcTQ28

5600x + 3080 + 32gb 3600c18

 

Heres a very gpu heavy build but you do get quite a good gpu, and last time i checked uk fb marketplace funnily enough 6800xt seem to be more expensive than 3080 which you can find somewhat consistently around the 350£ mark, yes a used b3/450 like the tomahawk or equivalent is preffered and usually cheaper (50£ or less) but ill put a new option in if you dont wanna bother looking for a used board, and definitely used cpu cause thats also a pretty big part of buying am4

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RKm9ZJ

7600 + 6700xt + 32gb 6000c32

 

Heres a more allrounder build based on am5 so you can upgrade to future cpus without having to swap mobo or rams out

 

For list of improvements on both variations cause theyre just cpu mobo ram gpu combos

 

Used case which should save quite abit of money, might even be able to get one for free if someones throwing one out, better off cutting cost here since its just a hunk of metal that doesnt contribute to performance, though the matrexx 40 3fs is a good choice and its pretty cheap so if you can spare the cash without cutting on specs then thatd personally be my pick

 

Used gpu which will be alot better than whatever new crap you can get for that price, yes even the 6700xt will outperform the 7600 and by quite alot at that, especially a 3080 (= 6800xt)

Btw 3080 and 6800xt = 4070

 

Ram has doubled to 32gb

 

Much faster dram gen4 1tb drive as there wasnt that much of a price diff between the cheapest dram gen3 and this high end dram gen4

 

As for wifi yeah probably wanna get a card for that, for the am5 build theres the b650m gaming plus wifi at 140£ but for the am4 build you are forced to look for used wifi boards or use a wifi card

does the ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard not have built in wifi? and is the gpu 6700xt £200 normally? i looked on amazon and its £340

[Somerandomtechyboi]

11 minutes ago, busby_bee_boy said:

does the ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard not have built in wifi? and is the gpu 6700xt £200 normally? i looked on amazon and its £340

Used

Its stupid to buy new last gen cause 200£ gets you a 6600 non xt new and a 6700xt used and the 6700xt is alot faster than a 6600

 

B650m hdv doesnt have built in wifi but you can get a b650m gaming plus wifi at 140£ unless you can find an m.2 wifi card and antennas for cheap

[Dedayog]

52 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Used

Its stupid to buy new last gen cause 200£ gets you a 6600 non xt new and a 6700xt used and the 6700xt is alot faster than a 6600

 

B650m hdv doesnt have built in wifi but you can get a b650m gaming plus wifi at 140£ unless you can find an m.2 wifi card and antennas for cheap

Please stop calling people who want to buy new stupid.   Yes, I know how you phrase it.

 

If you choose not to buy new, that's fine.  But many of us prefer not paying for things others have done what they wish, and may not have treated it like we would.

 

Buying used is a valid option but in no way stupid not to.  I do both but we each have our comfort levels.

[busby_bee_boy]

2 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Used

Its stupid to buy new last gen cause 200£ gets you a 6600 non xt new and a 6700xt used and the 6700xt is alot faster than a 6600

 

B650m hdv doesnt have built in wifi but you can get a b650m gaming plus wifi at 140£ unless you can find an m.2 wifi card and antennas for cheap

ive added the wifi motherboard to the list, so where would you recomend getting the 6700xt gpu from? ebay? aand apart from price, is it any different from buying new?

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

8 hours ago, busby_bee_boy said:

ive added the wifi motherboard to the list, so where would you recomend getting the 6700xt gpu from? ebay? aand apart from price, is it any different from buying new?

If you go for fb marketplace and the seller cant ship via ebay or something like that then youll have to arrage a meetup so you can actually test the thing and not get scammed

 

Basically abit more inconvenient than new but you get much better hardware for the price compared to buying new

 

Imo new only starts being worth it when its a 7900xt/4070tis or better since a used 3080/6800xt is ~350$ and equivalent to a 4070 or 7800xt

 

Used gives the biggest benifits at lower budgets and 700£ is a really low budget so youll see the biggest gains going used, mainly being able to cut massive cost on the case, being able to get a far better gpu compared to new (new 6600 vs used 6700xt or new 6700xt vs used 3080), being able to get a far better psu compared to new (rm850x or equivalent at 40-60£ vs pk750d), and for even lower budgets than 700£ being able to save alot buying used am4 both cpus and mobos

 

Here its mostly emphasising on cutting case cost and getting a much better gpu, pk750d is fine if you dont wanna go searching around for a used psu and should still handle 80 class cards just that id leave used psus as reccomended since you arent gonna suffer a massive performance loss unlike getting a new gpu and spending 50£ on a case and nuking the gpu even further, you can go used am4 as one of the builds i provided but thats quite a gpu heavy build on a dead platform so youll have to upgrade the entire thing instead of dropping in a new cpu

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nd4828

Heres all new and yep 50£ over whilst having a far inferior gpu

 

Just looking at the benchmarks here the 6700xt is between 40% and 50% faster than the 6600 non xt

 

I mean you do need to put abit of effort in but for a 40-50% uplift that might even let you keep your hardware longer before wanting another upgrade id say its well worth it compared to say searching around for a used psu cause same effort but you wont really notice the effects till you want to upgrade to a 90 class card and by then youd probably have enough money to just buy a new unit with a 10 year warranty anyways

 

In order of priority or saving money and benifits of buying used

Gpu (and platform if used am4) > case > psu

 

Matx case is 40£ and a pretty decent one at that so if you have the spare cash probs worth it to go new on that one unless you can find a used 6800 which is even more performant than the 6700xt (25-30% over 6700xt) and will last you even longer