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34 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

maybe because his laptop HDMI is version 1.4 ?

That's probably the reason, as, like I said in that other thread, Intel UHD620 Graphics only support up to HDMI 1.4 (and DP 1.2), and the Radeon R5 M330 doesn't have any display outputs to begin with and can only output through the iGPU.

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I just bought a new external monitor MSI MAG274QRFQD

I am using it with my laptop HP 15Bs180tx with Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8250U CPU @ 1.60GHz, Intel UHD620 Grahics. Dedicated graphics AMD Radeon R5 M330.

I am having trouble turning on HDR on my new monitor. The Internal display shows HDR Video Streaming is supported.

But when I go to HDR settings of my new monitor it says Not Supported for both 'HDR Video Streaming' and 'Use HDR'. (See screenshots below)

 

Is this issue because of my laptop or is there something wrong with my monitor?

 

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Check your monitor OSD settings, maybe you have to turn HDR on somewhere.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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1 hour ago, Stahlmann said:

Check your monitor OSD settings, maybe you have to turn HDR on somewhere.

Probably not that, i have the same monitor connected to my laptop's USB-C. I can turn on HDR in my Windows 11 just fine.

No specific HDR on/off switch in OSD AFAIK

 

I'm not savvy enough about these kinda things, maybe because his laptop HDMI is version 1.4 ?

IIRC HDR support is only on HDMI 2.0 and up.

 

From his other thread, no idea if the version is true like @Average Nerd said though:

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

maybe because his laptop HDMI is version 1.4 ?

That's probably the reason, as, like I said in that other thread, Intel UHD620 Graphics only support up to HDMI 1.4 (and DP 1.2), and the Radeon R5 M330 doesn't have any display outputs to begin with and can only output through the iGPU.

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English is not my first language, so please excuse any confusion or misunderstandings on my end.

I like to edit my posts a lot.

 

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From the specs it claims its only 300 nits with 8bit panel using FRC to fake 10 bit.

 

Review on Toms Hardware said HDR looks identical to SDR on this monitor anyway.

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7 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

From the specs it claims its only 300 nits with 8bit panel using FRC to fake 10 bit.

 

Review on Toms Hardware said HDR looks identical to SDR on this monitor anyway.

Not that I ever used a true HDR monitor or seen a pic/vid on one before.

But I can vouch that the HDR looks identical to SDR on this particular monitor (tried it before)

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I used that exact Monitor for multiple years, it has fake HDR anyways.

I experimented with it and it always looked worse in HDR, compared to SDR.
The Panel just is not bright enough.

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4 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

I used a similair Monitor for multiple years, it has fake HDR anyways.

I experimented with it and it always looked worse in HDR, compared to SDR.
The Panel just is not bright enough.

Yeah, its actually an improvement if this monitor looks the same as SDR, many do look worse.  But still, not worth turning on in the first place, no idea why they bother including support, they don't seem to even widely advertise it on this monitor.

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Just now, Alex Atkin UK said:

Yeah, its actually an improvement if this monitor looks the same as SDR, many do look worse.  But still, not worth turning on in the first place, no idea why they bother including support.

higher price tag, to entice unsavvy potential customer. I guess.

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11 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

higher price tag, to entice unsavvy potential customer. I guess.

True for Monitors that use it as a Selling-Point, sadly.
MSI even seems to agree, as they do not seem to advertise HDR as a main Selling-Point for the Monitor:
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Back when I was shopping for a new Monitor I watched Hardware Unboxed best 1440p Gaming-Monitors Video, who listed it with the best Motion-Performance.
They also pointed out that HDR below HDR600 is fake HDR and should not be concidered, if you want to play in HDR.
The funny Thing is, I never intended to use HDR, but some Games just auto enabled HDR and I wondered why it looked bad, lmao.

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17 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

True for Monitors that use it as a Selling-Point, sadly.
MSI even seems to agree, as they do not seem to advertise HDR as a main Selling-Point for the Monitor:
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Back when I was shopping for a new Monitor I watched Hardware Unboxed best 1440p Gaming-Monitors Video, who listed it with the best Motion-Performance.
They also pointed out that HDR below HDR600 is fake HDR and should not be concidered, if you want to play in HDR.
The funny Thing is, I never intended to use HDR, but some Games just auto enabled HDR and I wondered why it looked bad, lmao.

Good if they don't ad it as such.

I mainly bought it due to HWU as well, for the color range, along with type-c input so I didn't really pay attention to HDR stuffs.

edit: Well actually come to think of it, motion performance was one of the consideration as well albeit not as much as the previous two i mentioned, especially on rate lower than 120. (Was still daily driving an 11y old PC awhile back)

 

Soon enough after I bought it MSI released a 274QPF-QD which to me basically a revamped 274QRF-QD, just with very slightly higher Hz, nits (maybe), srgb gamut, and DP1.4

Oh fucking well I guess 😭😂

The 274QPF-QD has Vesa 400 HDR support listed on it's spec, no idea if the monitor can be bright enough

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4 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Check your monitor OSD settings, maybe you have to turn HDR on somewhere.

 

2 hours ago, Average Nerd said:

That's probably the reason, as, like I said in that other thread, Intel UHD620 Graphics only support up to HDMI 1.4 (and DP 1.2), and the Radeon R5 M330 doesn't have any display outputs to begin with and can only output through the iGPU.

Well, looks like I have to wait until I build my own pc (Hopefully soon).

Thanks for your inputs

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