Build help

[Bartholomew123]

Budget (including currency):

10000 - 10000 DKK

Country:

Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

All games. Lowest settings are allowed.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Currently i have this list https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/n6XDFs, im just wondering if i have made some good choices, and if the combination of parts is alright

 

[Dedayog]

5 minutes ago, Bartholomew123 said:

Budget (including currency):

10000 - 10000 DKK

Country:

Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:

All games. Lowest settings are allowed.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Currently i have this list https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/list/n6XDFs, im just wondering if i have made some good choices, and if the combination of parts is alright

 

What I would run...

 

7600 plus stock cooler.  Better motherboard and RAM.  Better GPU.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1690.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1190.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (973.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (918.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (3990.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB400L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (494.00kr @ Proshop) 
Power Supply: NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (788.00kr @ Proshop) 
Total: 10043.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-06 17:26 CET+0100

[Bartholomew123]

19 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

What I would run...

 

7600 plus stock cooler.  Better motherboard and RAM.  Better GPU.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1690.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1190.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (973.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (918.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (3990.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB400L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (494.00kr @ Proshop) 
Power Supply: NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (788.00kr @ Proshop) 
Total: 10043.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-06 17:26 CET+0100

I forgot to mention, but its really important to me that its quiet.
Is the stock cooler not louder under load, than the one i selected?
Is a slimmer GPU with 2 fans not louder than a beefier one with 3 fans?

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Bartholomew123 said:

I forgot to mention, but its really important to me that its quiet.
Is the stock cooler not louder under load, than the one i selected?
Is a slimmer GPU with 2 fans not louder than a beefier one with 3 fans?

you can get the pop silent if you really care

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1690.00kr @ Computersalg) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (308.00kr @ Proshop) 
Motherboard: *ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1034.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (973.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Storage: *Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (508.00kr @ Dustin Home) 
Video Card: *Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (4190.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: *Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (491.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Power Supply: Deepcool DQ750-M-V2L 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (803.00kr @ Proshop) 
Total: 9997.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-06 17:57 CET+0100

[Mark_F]

Hi, I can give you some info based on experience, that may help you understand a bit.

First thing about heatsinks/fans. Notice that the card with 3 fans usually has a much larger heatsink. Not just larger to accept a third fan, but usually deeper (thicker) as well. (Some are so large and heavy, it's kinda scary and require a load bearing "crutch" (brace) to keep it from hanging down and potentially damaging the PCIe slot.) This larger device normally assists the GPU in keeping the card cooler even with the fans off or at idle speeds. That extra metal mass can do wonders "if" its designed correctly and the thermal paste is not crap. I recently had to loan my GTX1660S OC (3 fans TUF series) to my wife and bought an EVGA GTX1060 SSC (2 fans) off of eBay. It was a good price and in excellent condition. At idle conditions it works well with the fans off. When I start ramping things up, the 1060 got loud pretty fast. The 1660S was still very quiet at this point. (running the same games and apps) This is exactly due to better fan design and a larger heatsink. It also helps that the 1660S is a more powerful chipset.

While it's not always 100% true:
Better fans
More fans
Larger heatsink
Will normally give you better and quieter cooling.
Again, design, quality and implementation all fit heavily into the equation. There will always be a 3 fan setup with a massive heatsink that sounds like a 1950's vacuum cleaner.

Best thing to do is visit some relatively unbiased benchmark sites that also give noise levels in "db" for idle, 50% and 100% fan noise and start from there.

Note:
Not all video cards offer a zero fan option. So that would be something to look for as well.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Bartholomew123 said:

I forgot to mention, but its really important to me that its quiet.
Is the stock cooler not louder under load, than the one i selected?
Is a slimmer GPU with 2 fans not louder than a beefier one with 3 fans?

I run the stock Wraith on my 5600X3D and it's nice and quiet in the Q300L that is on the desk 3 feet from my kids head.

 

They are decent quality coolers for free, quite impressive actually.

[Bartholomew123]

12 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

I run the stock Wraith on my 5600X3D and it's nice and quiet in the Q300L that is on the desk 3 feet from my kids head.

 

They are decent quality coolers for free, quite impressive actually.

So it might be an idea to try the stock one first, and if its too loud try and buy something else?

[Bartholomew123]

1 hour ago, Mark_F said:

Hi, I can give you some info based on experience, that may help you understand a bit.

First thing about heatsinks/fans. Notice that the card with 3 fans usually has a much larger heatsink. Not just larger to accept a third fan, but usually deeper (thicker) as well. (Some are so large and heavy, it's kinda scary and require a load bearing "crutch" (brace) to keep it from hanging down and potentially damaging the PCIe slot.) This larger device normally assists the GPU in keeping the card cooler even with the fans off or at idle speeds. That extra metal mass can do wonders "if" its designed correctly and the thermal paste is not crap. I recently had to loan my GTX1660S OC (3 fans TUF series) to my wife and bought an EVGA GTX1060 SSC (2 fans) off of eBay. It was a good price and in excellent condition. At idle conditions it works well with the fans off. When I start ramping things up, the 1060 got loud pretty fast. The 1660S was still very quiet at this point. (running the same games and apps) This is exactly due to better fan design and a larger heatsink. It also helps that the 1660S is a more powerful chipset.

While it's not always 100% true:
Better fans
More fans
Larger heatsink
Will normally give you better and quieter cooling.
Again, design, quality and implementation all fit heavily into the equation. There will always be a 3 fan setup with a massive heatsink that sounds like a 1950's vacuum cleaner.

Best thing to do is visit some relatively unbiased benchmark sites that also give noise levels in "db" for idle, 50% and 100% fan noise and start from there.

Note:
Not all video cards offer a zero fan option. So that would be something to look for as well.

Very cool, thanks for the insight. Helped me understand alot better

[Dedayog]

Just now, Bartholomew123 said:

So it might be an idea to try the stock one first, and if its too loud try and buy something else?

100% what I would do.  You can always mount a new cooler without much work at all.  Save that money where you can.

[Bartholomew123]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

100% what I would do.  You can always mount a new cooler without much work at all.  Save that money where you can.

Great, thank you very much

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (1690.00kr @ Computersalg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (308.00kr @ Proshop) 
Motherboard: ASRock A620M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (1027.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL30 Memory  (960.00kr @ Proshop) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (918.00kr @ Proshop) 
Video Card: *Asus DUAL OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  (3990.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (578.00kr @ Alternate) 
Power Supply: NZXT C750 (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (788.00kr @ Proshop) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (80.00kr @ Computersalg) 
Total: 10339.00kr
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-06 21:26 CET+0100

[venomtail]

21 hours ago, Bartholomew123 said:

I forgot to mention, but its really important to me that its quiet.

Well "Silence" is a bit more complex. How fast fans spin is related to how hot a part is. A more open case lets more air in but allows you to hear fans directly. Closed case makes it harder to hear the fans but that could also be negated to them having to work harder. Depending on fans, when spinning faster their RPM is one thing but pitch is also important. Some premium fans have their noise tuned to something of a low hum that a typical fan that way more people find unintrusive.

 

Something for you to consider. Maybe the culprit is the noise profile of the fans rather than the actual DB loudness of them.