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Honestly.... not a terrible CPU, probably won't get much performance boost until you also upgrade the memory.... CPU+RAM are probably the bottleneck, but won't be holding back your GPU too much.... split the build: get your trophy look now.... then make it trophy performance with a DDR5 build in a later step.

 

Just my opinion, but I hate to see people throw fairly serious amounts of money on old platforms that won't even get them some short-term good performance.... and push them down the path of wasting more money on older stuff later: by that I mean that 32Gb of white, RGB, high performance DDR4 is roughly double the price of the equivalent DDR5. (certainly for the TridentZ Neo DDR4 3600CL14 vs DDR5 6000CL30 - but I guess the performance on the 3600CL16 is probably closer and that is cheaper if you're just after the looks).

Old stuff is fine for extreme budget builds where you set your targets low, but not when you're spending this much money or wanting to pay for the premium-looking parts.

1 hour ago, mikkkukene said:

I know i know, i could save up so much money by using my old case, but thats not what im going for here. I want the pc to be the staple of my room, the Trophy, the glory of my room. 

If you don't care about performance (if you keep that RAM, you clearly don't!), then why not just accept that this upgrade is just for cosmetics and do a separate performance upgrade once you see what the new Intel platform brings to the game?

 

Buy the Lian Li case (which I do like), plus that RGB AIO and RGB fans.... then stick with your original CPU, motherboard, etc and put the €330 saving toward a decent motherboard, CPU and RAM bundle later: either AM5 or the next Intel chipset?

 

AM4 and LGA1700 are dead-end platforms, I just hate to see people wasting money starting a new build on those just because they're trying to save a few € by re-using one old component, especially when that is really low-spec RAM that will kill the new build.

 

Just remember to keep all the mounting parts for the AIO so you CAN re-use that when you replace your motherboard+CPU.

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), Logitech Touch K400.
Laptop: LOQ16, RTX4060, 16Gb DDR5, 2x 2Tb SN990 M.2.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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30 minutes ago, BahnStormer said:

If you don't care about performance (if you keep that RAM, you clearly don't!), then why not just accept that this upgrade is just for cosmetics and do a separate performance upgrade once you see what the new Intel platform brings to the game?

 

Buy the Lian Li case (which I do like), plus that RGB AIO and RGB fans.... then stick with your original CPU, motherboard, etc and put the €330 saving toward a decent motherboard, CPU and RAM bundle later: either AM5 or the next Intel chipset?

 

AM4 and LGA1700 are dead-end platforms, I just hate to see people wasting money starting a new build on those just because they're trying to save a few € by re-using one old component, especially when that is really low-spec RAM that will kill the new build.

 

Just remember to keep all the mounting parts for the AIO so you CAN re-use that when you replace your motherboard+CPU.

I have an i7-7700 so thats why i would like to upgrade to another cpu... forgot to mention that earlier. But thats for all the info, means a lot!

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Honestly.... not a terrible CPU, probably won't get much performance boost until you also upgrade the memory.... CPU+RAM are probably the bottleneck, but won't be holding back your GPU too much.... split the build: get your trophy look now.... then make it trophy performance with a DDR5 build in a later step.

 

Just my opinion, but I hate to see people throw fairly serious amounts of money on old platforms that won't even get them some short-term good performance.... and push them down the path of wasting more money on older stuff later: by that I mean that 32Gb of white, RGB, high performance DDR4 is roughly double the price of the equivalent DDR5. (certainly for the TridentZ Neo DDR4 3600CL14 vs DDR5 6000CL30 - but I guess the performance on the 3600CL16 is probably closer and that is cheaper if you're just after the looks).

Old stuff is fine for extreme budget builds where you set your targets low, but not when you're spending this much money or wanting to pay for the premium-looking parts.

Main rig: Ryzen 7 7800X3D, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb Teamgroup Create-T DDR5-6000C30, AC Freezer3 280mm AIO, Asrock Steel Legend X670E, M.2 2Tb Samsung 990 Pro, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, SATA 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, MSI MPG 271QRX (27"/1440P/360Hz), Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G Pro X Superlight 2, Audezee Maxwell.

Games room "TV rig": 5800X3D, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS Prime B450M, RTX4080S w/iChill AIO, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 500Gb & 1Tb WDSN550, 8Tb WD80EFAX, BeQuiet Straight 1000W,  LianLi O11 Air Mini, LG G4 (55"/4K/120Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, LG G1 Soundbar / Audezee Maxwell.

Lounge HTPC: Minisforum UM760 Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, 16Gb DDR5, 1Tb M.2, LG C2 (42"/4K/120Hz), Logitech Touch K400.
Laptop: LOQ16, RTX4060, 16Gb DDR5, 2x 2Tb SN990 M.2.

NAS: Synology 1812+, 3Gb RAM, 3x16Tb Seagate EXOS RAID5, 1Tb MX500 cache, 3x3Tb WDRED RAID6, 120Gb SSD cache. 

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