New RTX 4070 system issues

[Anton Tsaryk]

Hello. Currently, I have
MB - Asus ROG Strix B450-F gaming
CPU - Ryzen 5 3600
GPU - Asus GTX 1060 6gb
RAM - 32 GB (2x16gb 3200 Mhz)
PSU - Aerocool Imperator 650w 80 Bronze (released in 2013, bought in 2014)
Storage - 1tb SATA HDD. 500gb SATA SSD

Decided to update my system with the new GPU, and chose the Asus RTX 4070 (non-Ti, not a super). Before buying it read forums and checked videos regarding PCIe3 and PCIe4 compatibility, and as far as I know it will work but would be a bit slower. Installed new GPU, previously uninstalled old drivers through the safe mode with DDU utility. The system booted, post went just fine, but the boot was odd. Upon showing the Windows screen the system was lagging, but that's expected with no drivers. Installed the latest Nvidia drivers 551.23 downloaded from their site, and so it began.
So what I have currently, even on a blank screen with nothing running, dragging an open folder window over the screen might freeze time after time. Sometimes the display goes black, shows no signal, then turns back on. Games like Cyberpunk crashed immediately upon launch. Catching BSOD. And random shutdowns also.
Decided to reinstall the driver to a bit older version just to check, deleted the existing one with DDU, loaded Windows again, and Windows automatically caught and installed some old Nvidia driver, with which I was able to launch Diablo 4 but even in the menu had 3-4 fps. Installed 546.65 drivers, and the same issues again.

What could be wrong? I fear the new GPU is faulty, but I don't believe that too much. I think my super old PSU eventually is not enough for this system, and according to what I've read about the lack of power for the GPU from PSU - the symptoms match. But I still wanted to ask here.

 

[ki8aras]

your psu should have enough power for the gpu to do 2d acceleration (dragging around icons on the desktop) try the gpu in a friend's system cuz it may be faulty

[Anton Tsaryk]

23 minutes ago, ki8aras said:

your psu should have enough power for the gpu to do 2d acceleration (dragging around icons on the desktop) try the gpu in a friend's system cuz it may be faulty

That's the plan for today's evening. A friend has a lot more modern PC with 1000w platinum PSU so I will test it for sure.
But couldn't that be a problem? That PSU I have is old and was a budget option at the time. It runs fine with much older and much less power-hungry cards.

[ki8aras]

1 hour ago, Anton Tsaryk said:

That's the plan for today's evening. A friend has a lot more modern PC with 1000w platinum PSU so I will test it for sure.
But couldn't that be a problem? That PSU I have is old and was a budget option at the time. It runs fine with much older and much less power-hungry cards.

as i said,if your power supply has degraded to a point it cannot supply 35w for the 4070 to run 2d acceleration, then it probably wouldn't run even the older less power hungry parts you're talking about

now if your system worked fine while on the desktop, but crashed under intense load (benchmark/gaming) then you could blame the power supply

[Anton Tsaryk]

7 hours ago, ki8aras said:

as i said,if your power supply has degraded to a point it cannot supply 35w for the 4070 to run 2d acceleration, then it probably wouldn't run even the older less power hungry parts you're talking about

now if your system worked fine while on the desktop, but crashed under intense load (benchmark/gaming) then you could blame the power supply

Tested on the friend's PC with BeQuiet straight power 1kW PSU, he's running RTX 3080. My 4070 started and worked just fine. No problems at all. We did not reinstall the drivers, just inserted it as it is. Unfortunately did not get a chance to try and use his PSU in my system, because we had no time for it.

[Anton Tsaryk]

Could it also potentially be the BIOS version on the motherboard? I realized that the last time it was updated, was when the Ryzen 3000 series launched, to support the new R5 3600 CPU.

[ki8aras]

On 2/10/2024 at 11:10 AM, Anton Tsaryk said:

Could it also potentially be the BIOS version on the motherboard? I realized that the last time it was updated, was when the Ryzen 3000 series launched, to support the new R5 3600 CPU.

i mean it's possible but not probable

[Anton Tsaryk]

4 hours ago, ki8aras said:

i mean it's possible but not probable

So, either the swap of PSU or BIOS update helped. Now the card works just fine. I have installed the latest BIOS that was available for MB, and upgraded to BeQuiet Straight Power 750w Platinum.