Getting hot inhere!!

[Rathsach]

I made myself a little x-mas present:

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700KF

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360

Motherboard: ASRock Z790 PG Riptide

GPU: ASUS GeForce RTX 4090 ROG STRIX OC

PSU: ASUS ROG STRIX 1000G

NVME: WD Black SN850X SSD - 2TB   

FANS: 6 x NF-A12x25

Case: Lian Li PC-O11D XL ROG

 

It's all working just fine. There are however, two issue's. First is the noise when playing games. I did go for the most quiet fans possible, even so, system seems to spin things up and down often when putting some workload on it. 

Second issue is the heat, not inside the PC, but in my 12 m2 room. Temp goes to around 26 degrees celsius and this is during winter! 

The system itself seems to be cooled like it should, the GPU never goes above 65 and CPU also never passes 60 or so (depending on which of the 20 cores is measured  ) This is after 4K gaming several hours, so I believe the cooling is ok. What's not OK, is me sweating like a horse because the PC is playing hot air heater.

 

Any suggestions to get the PC cooled, without getting the ambient temp to go crazy? I'm worried that when summer comes, and we get 28-30 degrees celsius outside, then what! I don't have a swimmingpool like Linus

 

 

[Biohazard777]

12 minutes ago, Rathsach said:

Any suggestions to get the PC cooled, without getting the ambient temp to go crazy? I'm worried that when summer comes, and we get 28-30 degrees celsius outside, then what! I don't have a swimmingpool like Linus

You can:
- generate less heat: by using less power hungry components / more efficient ones or by downclocking and/or undervolting your current components (CPU & GPU). Obviously this will come with a performance impact... though it doesn't have to be huge.
- redirect some of the heat outside of your room: like a long water cooled run to a radiator on the outside
- open up a window or turn the AC on 
 

[Rathsach]

3 minutes ago, Biohazard777 said:

You can:
- generate less heat: by using less power hungry components / more efficient ones or by downclocking and/or undervolting your current components (CPU & GPU). Obviously this will come with a performance impact... though it doesn't have to be huge.
- redirect some of the heat outside of your room: like a long water cooled run to a radiator on the outside
- open up a window or turn the AC on 
 

Heck if I'm gonna turn down settings, I want POWAH!
AC not an option.
Opening the window during summer, will just let more hot air in

 

I think i created a monster !!

[PDifolco]

17 minutes ago, Rathsach said:

I made myself a little x-mas present:

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700KF

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360

Motherboard: ASRock Z790 PG Riptide

GPU: ASUS GeForce RTX 4090 ROG STRIX OC

PSU: ASUS ROG STRIX 1000G

NVME: WD Black SN850X SSD - 2TB   

FANS: 6 x NF-A12x25

Case: Lian Li PC-O11D XL ROG

 

It's all working just fine. There are however, two issue's. First is the noise when playing games. I did go for the most quiet fans possible, even so, system seems to spin things up and down often when putting some workload on it. 

Second issue is the heat, not inside the PC, but in my 12 m2 room. Temp goes to around 26 degrees celsius and this is during winter! 

The system itself seems to be cooled like it should, the GPU never goes above 65 and CPU also never passes 60 or so (depending on which of the 20 cores is measured  ) This is after 4K gaming several hours, so I believe the cooling is ok. What's not OK, is me sweating like a horse because the PC is playing hot air heater.

 

Any suggestions to get the PC cooled, without getting the ambient temp to go crazy? I'm worried that when summer comes, and we get 28-30 degrees celsius outside, then what! I don't have a swimmingpool like Linus

 

 

Open the window maybe ?

Seriously, problem is that the 14700K is very energy consuming (200W+),  even worse the 4090 is 400W+

That generates a lot of heat that has to go somewhere, and it can't in a small closed room...

Then higher ambient makes the components hotter, ramping up fans

For fan curves you can tweak them so that they don't change speed often, it's less annoying, but can't reduce much their speed if components are hot

 

[Ottoman420]

Turn the room radiator off or much lower if it has a thermostatic valve in that room

 

you can optimize the case fans and the gpu/cpu fans in software because at stock they will just ramp anytime you do something.

[Average Nerd]

34 minutes ago, Rathsach said:

Any suggestions to get the PC cooled, without getting the ambient temp to go crazy?

Exporting the heat outside into a car radiator or similar, when AC or undervolting isn't an option, would be a solution. When you place the radiator in a place where the sun doesn't shine on it, it should maintain functionality even on hot days. (Its cooling performance will be significantly lower when it's hot, ofc.)

[Spotty]

Your system is basically a 600W space heater. The coolers/fans are doing their job and moving that heat away from the components. That heat has to go somewhere, which is going to be the room. After a few hours of heavy load (gaming) it will make the room noticeably warmer.

 

All you can really do is lower the power draw of the system or ensure there is adequate airflow to move the heat out of the room (open doors/windows, air conditioning)

[Rathsach]

3 minutes ago, Ottoman420 said:

Turn the room radiator off or much lower if it has a thermostatic valve in that room

 

you can optimize the case fans and the gpu/cpu fans in software because at stock they will just ramp anytime you do something.

 

No radiators, heated floors and temp is set to 22. Heat never really turns on in the floors, cause I'm working in the room every day, and just 1 laptop, me and this new monster i have created is enough to ramp up the temp to 25 (not even gaming)

 

I guess I didn't think this through when I bought that new PC   

 

I did try the FAN Optimize thing that Asrock has. I'm not a "fan" of that app  Any suggestions for a better fan control app is welcome. I'd rather the fans ran a little faster, than this crazy thing where they spin up and down.

[PDifolco]

3 minutes ago, Rathsach said:

 

No radiators, heated floors and temp is set to 22. Heat never really turns on in the floors, cause I'm working in the room every day, and just 1 laptop, me and this new monster i have created is enough to ramp up the temp to 25 (not even gaming)

 

I guess I didn't think this through when I bought that new PC   

 

I did try the FAN Optimize thing that Asrock has. I'm not a "fan" of that app  Any suggestions for a better fan control app is welcome. I'd rather the fans ran a little faster, than this crazy thing where they spin up and down.

Use FanControl software (there's a locked thread obout it in Cooling forum)

Also you could noticeably reduce power draw by undervolting CPU and GPU, and setting -15% power on the GPU and a max power draw of around 150W on the CPU, with an acceptable performance hit of less than 10% I think (can depend on games, do some benchmark)

[ki8aras]

should've taken the X3D pill

[Rathsach]

Thx for the input... I guess I'll have to live with the damn heat. I haven't bought state of the art HW to start underclocking, then I'd rather sweat it out

[Robchil]

4 hours ago, Rathsach said:

Thx for the input... I guess I'll have to live with the damn heat. I haven't bought state of the art HW to start underclocking, then I'd rather sweat it out

it might perform better undervolted.. since it heats up too fast and throttle.. with undervolt you can keep temperatures at bay and avoid the throttling. 

 

regardless of if it's throttling the cpu... or you

 

 

[SillySlug24]

Under load, thanks to your marvelous overclocking CPU and GPU you're actually closer to 800w total power draw at max load, roughly 2700BTU/hr

[Rathsach]

On 2/1/2024 at 6:27 PM, Robchil said:

it might perform better undervolted.. since it heats up too fast and throttle.. with undervolt you can keep temperatures at bay and avoid the throttling. 

 

regardless of if it's throttling the cpu... or you

 

 

There is no throttling, the heat is nicely removed from inside to outside, so I can enjoy it

[Rathsach]

3 hours ago, Gorgeoupter said:

First off, hats off to you for putting together such an incredible setup as a Christmas gift to yourself – that's quite the powerhouse you've got! I totally get where you're coming from with the noise and the mini-sauna situation in your room. Let's see if we can tackle these issues together:

 

For the noise, it sounds like you've already chosen some top-notch fans, so maybe we can look into fine-tuning their behavior. Have you tried playing around with the fan curves a bit? Sometimes, setting them to kick in a bit more gradually can help keep the noise down without sacrificing too much on the cooling front. It's all about finding that sweet spot where your fans aren't too eager to go full blast.
 

Now, onto the personal summer you've got going on in your room. It's great that your PC is staying cool, but we definitely need to sort out your comfort too. Improving airflow in your room could be a game-changer. Maybe think about setting up a small exhaust setup or a standing fan aimed at the door or a window to help shuttle some of that hot air out. Cracking a window might not always be an option, but it can do wonders if the weather and your living situation allow it.

Gonna try one of the two Xiaomi fans I have right here behind me tonight. Can't believe I didn't notice that I had them here in my room, and didn't try them. I even hit one of them when pushinh my chair back