first pc First PC help

[Seleez]

Budget (including currency): 1400€

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly games

Other details:

I have this list :

• PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/6NDm28
• CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  (€304.95) 
• CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€118.85) 
• Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€263.89) 
• Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€124.90) 
• Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€156.90) 
• Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (€306.95) 
• Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  (€114.90) 
• Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS PLUS 850 Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply 
• Total: €1391.34

but this is my first PC. So is there something i should change?

 

[MiszS]

there's a lot of things you can change, for 1400€ (6k zł) you can build a way better pc, for example this one, i made a similar one for my friend but for cheaper (sorry for bad formatting, i just copy pasted it from spreadsheet)

obudowa	500DX	409,00 zł
płyta	asrock B650	565,00 zł
cpu	7600x	949,00 zł
gpu	7800xt	2 599,00 zł
ram	6800MHz	551,00 zł
dysk	lexar nm790	279,00 zł
chłodzenie	fera 5	159,00 zł
zasilacz	pp12	503,00 zł
wentylatory	P14 PWM x2	90,00 zł
fan hub	arctic	36,00 zł
pasta	mx6	32,00 zł
rama cpu	AM5 rama	64,00 zł
		6 236,00 zł

[Why_Me]

Intel 12 gen. isn't so good for DDR5. Those cpu's natively support DDR5 4800 whereas Intel 13 gen. natively supports DDR5 5600. With that said, DDR4 3200 / 3600 is every bit as fast as DDR5 6000 CL30 in regards to gaming. I would consider something like this down below and put the savings towards a better graphics card. The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for a rear exhaust fan.

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/157751238  

MSI Pro B760-P DDR4 II 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-DDR4-II/Overview  

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/119352415

INTEL Core i5-12600KF  

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134590/intel-core-i512600kf-processor-20m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/145543105  

Deepcool AG620  

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/GAMMAXX-AG620-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/15900.shtml  

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/150624206  

KINGSTON FURY Beast DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL16 

https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/search?partid=KF432C16BBK2/32

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/142927242#

ADATA Legend 850 2TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 NVME SSD

https://www.adata.com/en/consumer/category/ssds/solid-state-drives-legend-850/  

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/154353769  

MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750W  

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A750GL-PCIE5  

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/78016336  

ARCTIC P12 PWM PST 120mm Case Fan (ACFAN00120A)  

https://www.arctic.de/us/P12-PWM-PST/ACFAN00120A  

 

https://www.ceneo.pl/138639072  

Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/  

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 hours ago, MiszS said:

there's a lot of things you can change, for 1400€ (6k zł) you can build a way better pc, for example this one, i made a similar one for my friend but for cheaper (sorry for bad formatting, i just copy pasted it from spreadsheet)

obudowa	500DX	409,00 zł
płyta	asrock B650	565,00 zł
cpu	7600x	949,00 zł
gpu	7800xt	2 599,00 zł
ram	6800MHz	551,00 zł
dysk	lexar nm790	279,00 zł
chłodzenie	fera 5	159,00 zł
zasilacz	pp12	503,00 zł
wentylatory	P14 PWM x2	90,00 zł
fan hub	arctic	36,00 zł
pasta	mx6	32,00 zł
rama cpu	AM5 rama	64,00 zł
		6 236,00 zł

6800 is abit too slow for non 1:1 uclk (8000+ preffered) and too fast for 1:1 uclk so id reccomend a 6400 kit like this instead as those should still be hynix a die but if the cpu cant handle 6400 you just downclock to 6200 without changing anything else

 

Try finding a case thats cheaper and includes atleast 2 fans so you wont have to add more fans so the money spent on fans can be put to a better cooler like the thermalright peerless assassin/phantom spirit 120 and their variants or the ag/ak620 depending on price (thermalright is generally cheaper but may not be true for some countries like here in indo where ag620 is cheaper)

 

B650m hdv instead of the pg lightning due to better vrms, the b650m pg lightning uses the same vrms as the a620m pro rs and probs a few of asrocks other a620 boards and those vrms are definitely weaker, theres also the b650m pg riptide but kinda pointless imo since 4dimm is pretty useless for ddr5 and basically the same amount of usb ports and i/o and same vrms

 

Otherwise good build

[MiszS]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

6800 is abit too slow for non 1:1 uclk (8000+ preffered) and too fast for 1:1 uclk so id reccomend a 6400 kit like this instead as those should still be hynix a die but if the cpu cant handle 6400 you just downclock to 6200 without changing anything else

 

Try finding a case thats cheaper and includes atleast 2 fans so you wont have to add more fans so the money spent on fans can be put to a better cooler like the thermalright peerless assassin/phantom spirit 120 and their variants or the ag/ak620 depending on price (thermalright is generally cheaper but may not be true for some countries like here in indo where ag620 is cheaper)

 

B650m hdv instead of the pg lightning due to better vrms, the b650m pg lightning uses the same vrms as the a620m pro rs and probs a few of asrocks other a620 boards and those vrms are definitely weaker, theres also the b650m pg riptide but kinda pointless imo since 4dimm is pretty useless for ddr5 and basically the same amount of usb ports and i/o and same vrms

 

Otherwise good build

yeah imma change the case to the fractal design that the guy above listed, seems pretty good, and ik about the ram, just that the price difference is like 5$, so it seems worth it, i can just downclock it right now, and use at highier speed if i upgrade the cpu in the future

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just now, MiszS said:

yeah imma change the case to the fractal design that the guy above listed, seems pretty good, and ik about the ram, just that the price difference is like 5$, so it seems worth it, i can just downclock it right now, and use at highier speed if i upgrade the cpu in the future

Doesnt look like a bad case but id also check for cheaper options cause who knows if you can cut the case cost in half which is pretty good for a part that doesnt do anything for performance, i mean its not like you wanna fully disassemble the thing a buncha times, might aswell get a testbench at that point

[MiszS]

2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Doesnt look like a bad case but id also check for cheaper options cause who knows if you can cut the case cost in half which is pretty good for a part that doesnt do anything for performance, i mean its not like you wanna fully disassemble the thing a buncha times, might aswell get a testbench at that point

i mean, it fits in the budget, and id rather have the pc look good, so ill keep it, but what cpu cooler should i get those 2 aren't aviable?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

10 minutes ago, MiszS said:

i mean, it fits in the budget, and id rather have the pc look good, so ill keep it, but what cpu cooler should i get those 2 aren't aviable?

Looking at the site the fortis 5 seems to be a beefier tower though id be more inclined to go with the spartan 5 since its alot cheaper, besides as long as you tune the thing ryzen is pretty power efficient and runs pretty cool

 

Stock 7600x will run like shit though so gotta make sure its tuned properly cause bad out of the box settings, the non x is tuned alot better and should run really cool but still needs tuning if you wanna extract most of its performance since its got a pretty low power limit by default

 

 

As for the case i realized i can just use categories so Heres one that basically cuts the case cost in half

 

If it doesnt fit the board theres also the ventum 200 (argb) that includes 4 fans

 

At the price of the 500dx id argue that you might aswell go for the corsair 3000d argb instead that has 3 fans

[MiszS]

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Looking at the site the fortis 5 seems to be a beefier tower though id be more inclined to go with the spartan 5 since its alot cheaper, besides as long as you tune the thing ryzen is pretty power efficient and runs pretty cool

 

Stock 7600x will run like shit though so gotta make sure its tuned properly cause bad out of the box settings, the non x is tuned alot better and should run really cool but still needs tuning if you wanna extract most of its performance since its got a pretty low power limit by default

 

 

As for the case i realized i can just use categories so Heres one that basically cuts the case cost in half

 

If it doesnt fit the board theres also the ventum 200 (argb) that includes 4 fans

 

At the price of the 500dx id argue that you might aswell go for the corsair 3000d argb instead that has 3 fans

oh, i think you missunderstood, this was the improved version, the original pc has 7500f, tho i think it's still worth to get better cooling, if i ever want to upgrade

[Somerandomtechyboi]

8 minutes ago, MiszS said:

oh, i think you missunderstood, this was the improved version, the original pc has 7500f, tho i think it's still worth to get better cooling, if i ever want to upgrade

Looking at 7500f pricing thats an easy 140 save

 

Literally no reason to get the 7600 since the igpu is basically useless anyways, why the hell waste your money on that when if the gpu does randomly have issues you can pick up old display adapter gpus for cheap or outright free

 

In that case just get the ak/ag620 as that seems to be the only somewhat cheap dual tower

[MiszS]

24 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Looking at 7500f pricing thats an easy 140 save

 

Literally no reason to get the 7600 since the igpu is basically useless anyways, why the hell waste your money on that when if the gpu does randomly have issues you can pick up old display adapter gpus for cheap or outright free

 

In that case just get the ak/ag620 as that seems to be the only somewhat cheap dual tower

hey i just realized, the psu has only 1 pcie port, and another pcie gen 5, will it be enough to power the gpu?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

12 minutes ago, MiszS said:

hey i just realized, the psu has only 1 pcie port, and another pcie gen 5, will it be enough to power the gpu?

Should be fine

Though the Xpg reactor 850w is cheaper and has more wattage but still retains the 10 year warranty so id go for that instead

[MiszS]

10 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Should be fine

Though the Xpg reactor 850w is cheaper and has more wattage but still retains the 10 year warranty so id go for that instead

but how would that work, if there's physically only 1 port on the psu?

[Why_Me]

1 hour ago, MiszS said:

yeah imma change the case to the fractal design that the guy above listed, seems pretty good, and ik about the ram, just that the price difference is like 5$, so it seems worth it, i can just downclock it right now, and use at highier speed if i upgrade the cpu in the future

How many accounts do you have on this board? How about sticking to the account you used to create this thread.

[MiszS]

Just now, Why_Me said:

How many accounts do you have on this board? How about sticking to the account you used to create this thread.

that's the only account, the OP just didn't respond, and Somerandomtechboi just gave me advice on my build

[Somerandomtechyboi]

15 hours ago, MiszS said:

that's the only account, the OP just didn't respond, and Somerandomtechboi just gave me advice on my build

Wait what

Lmao i thought i was doing ops build but i might aswell help you aswell

 

Just make your own build thread and ill see what i can do

[MiszS]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Wait what

Lmao i thought i was doing ops build but i might aswell help you aswell

 

Just make your own build thread and ill see what i can do

nah it's already finished, but thanks for the help