Looking for a suggestion.

[SansVarnic]

Budget (including currency): Unsure but let's go with $500 max for now.

*edit: above was for the mobo.... budget for system is about $2500usd

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming mostly as my older pc will be maintained for my daily routine stuff.

Other details: Fun part, I need 3 choices to for a Motherboard. 1.) Needs to be a generation old, do not need the newest gen. 2.) needs to be able to hold 2 gpus. (I know but I have 960 doing nothing and it needs to go somewhere to be useful so its going to be doing F@H year-round so need a slot for it) 3.) lastly the CPU is going to be and intel but I have not decided on the chip yet. Will be last gen (not current gen).

 

Hopefully I get some good suggestions with this. let me know you if want more information.

 

What I have chosen so far.

Case: bequiet Dark Base 900 or 901

Mobo: ??

CPU: Intel ?

RAM: Crucial 16-32gb

PSU: 1200w -1600w (still deciding on brand)

GPU: Asus TUFF 3090 or 3090TI (this may change if 40xx prices start to drop )

 

I have all peripherals I need already.

 

*edit to add

Current rig: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sansvarnic/saved/q9vG3C

 

Edited November 27, 2023 by SansVarnic

[filpo]

18 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

Needs to be a generation old, do not need the newest gen

like 13th gen or 12th gen wise?

 

18 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

needs to be able to hold 2 gpus.

So one 3090 and a 960?

 

19 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

lastly the CPU is going to be and intel but I have not decided on the chip yet. Will be last gen (not current gen).

Do you have RAM?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($152.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $436.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-26 11:04 EST-0500

 

A 13700 could also work, so could a 12600kf (it's only about $140 on newegg rn)

[SansVarnic]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

like 13th gen or 12th gen wise?

Yes, either will work. Im not a newest is best guy. Just I want what works and haven't kept up with last few gen stuff so I am ignorant atm.

6 minutes ago, filpo said:

So one 3090 and a 960?

Yes.

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

Do you have RAM?

I have not chosen this but likely it will be Crucial Ram ... 16-32Gb (should have added that.)

8 minutes ago, filpo said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($152.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $436.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-26 11:04 EST-0500

 

A 13700 could also work, so could a 12600kf (it's only about $140 on newegg rn)

Looks promising. Thank you

 

I like the high core count with the hyper-thread. This will be handy.

[filpo]

5 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

like the high core count with the hyper-thread

what resolution are you playing at? If it's 4k or 1440p you could even go down to a 12600k to save some money

 

6 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

I have not chosen this but likely it will be Crucial Ram ... 16-32Gb (should have added that.)

great

 

6 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

Looks promising. Thank you

you're welcome  

[SansVarnic]

9 minutes ago, filpo said:

what resolution are you playing at? If it's 4k or 1440p you could even go down to a 12600k to save some money

1440. I have 3 monitors on a stand but when I am playing heavy renders like Star Citizen I turn off 2 of the screens to save the 1080 (non Ti) I have. Lol. You can see my current build in my signature, its still keeping up but barely.

[filpo]

1 hour ago, SansVarnic said:

I am playing heavy renders like Star Citizen I turn off 2 of the screens to save the 1080 (non Ti) I have. Lol

oh ye that must chug a bit lmao. Is that budget above including the 3090?

 

1 hour ago, SansVarnic said:

You can see my current build in my signature, its still keeping up but barely.

do you need an matx board to be compatible with the case?

It looks quite decent to me. Your 1080 is just slightly worse than my 3060 

Must've been a baller system

[SansVarnic]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

oh ye that must chug a bit lmao. Is that budget above including the 3090?

 

do you need an matx board to be compatible with the case?

It looks quite decent to me. Your 1080 is just slightly worse than my 3060 

Must've been a baller system

not re-using the same case, getting a new one, see op. atx is good, I like that mobo. did a compare with the Asus and MSI equivalents and this one meets my need better I believe.

[SansVarnic]

Based on @filpo's suggestion, here is what I am thinking, not too worried about the storage atm just need boot drive, I may populate the other m.2's instead of getting ssd's but that is for later decision.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sansvarnic/saved/6yZn23

[filpo]

12 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sansvarnic/saved/6yZn23

Looking good but if you don't mind thermaltake take a look at this. It's A Tier and a great deal Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (PS-TPD-1650FNFAGU-4) - PCPartPicker

Also the ram's a bit high latency, it'll be fine with cl22, really not a lot of performance lost but I just love corsair ram Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (CMK32GX4M2E3200C16) - PCPartPicker

14 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

Based on @filpo's suggestion, here is what I am thinking, not too worried about the storage atm just need boot drive, I may populate the other m.2's instead of getting ssd's but that is for later decision.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sansvarnic/saved/6yZn23

How much are you paying for the 3090 ti used?

[SansVarnic]

1 hour ago, filpo said:

Looking good but if you don't mind thermaltake take a look at this. It's A Tier and a great deal Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (PS-TPD-1650FNFAGU-4) - PCPartPicker

TBH I'm not a Thermaltake guy, I do like the suggestion, but I admit I will have to fight my preconception of past years of the "thermal-fake" to consider this.

1 hour ago, filpo said:

Also the ram's a bit high latency, it'll be fine with cl22, really not a lot of performance lost but I just love corsair ram Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (CMK32GX4M2E3200C16) - PCPartPicker

They have a CL17 version but it has no heat spreader and has a slower pc speed. Here is the comparison...

DDR4-2400 • CL=17 • Non-ECC • UDIMM • 288-pin • 1.2V • 2Rx8 • PC4-19200

DDR4-3200 • CL=22 • Non-ECC • UDIMM • 288-pins • 1.2V • 2Rx8 • PC4-25600

 

I think the trade off is ok.

 

1 hour ago, filpo said:

How much are you paying for the 3090 ti used?

I haven't done any looking yet. I know I'll be spending more than I like to, so I am working on the rig first. if you have any good places to look or deals available shoot me a link.

[filpo]

7 hours ago, SansVarnic said:

I think the trade off is ok

Ye it’s not a great issue 

 

7 hours ago, SansVarnic said:

I haven't done any looking yet. I know I'll be spending more than I like to, so I am working on the rig first. if you have any good places to look or deals available shoot me a link.

You want a 3090 for the vram right? (as well as some of the gaming performance) 

afaik some 3090s should be 550 used. That might’ve changed but I can’t check rn (in the car). I’ll look for some as soon as I get back in the afternoon

 

7 hours ago, SansVarnic said:

TBH I'm not a Thermaltake guy, I do like the suggestion, but I admit I will have to fight my preconception of past years of the "thermal-fake" to consider this.

Never knew about this, if you would like to go with bequiet (they’re defo more reliable as a brand) then go for it. But there is also an EVGA unit at $190 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7tZzK8/evga-supernova-1600-g-1600-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gp-1600-x1

[SansVarnic]

9 hours ago, filpo said:

You want a 3090 for the vram right? (as well as some of the gaming performance) afaik some 3090s should be 550 used. That might’ve changed but I can’t check rn (in the car). I’ll look for some as soon as I get back in the afternoon

Not really just don't want to spend the money on a 40xx. Then again when they announce the 50xx price might drop.

9 hours ago, filpo said:

Never knew about this, if you would like to go with bequiet (they’re defo more reliable as a brand) then go for it. But there is also an EVGA unit at $190 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7tZzK8/evga-supernova-1600-g-1600-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gp-1600-x1

I have no issues EVGA, I will look into this one. Evga, beQuiet and SeaSonic, Corsair are in my top5. Chose the beQuiet to match the case. Lol

 

Updated my op to include total build budget to $2500 including gpu. Dumb that gpu's cost more than the rig it goes in these days. Insane.

[filpo]

1 hour ago, SansVarnic said:

price might drop.

true but probably not by far. 2080 ti's are still around the price of a used 6800 and for gaming, the 6800 is just slightly better and it has more vram (and it's newer) so it will drop, but not by a huge amount

 

1 hour ago, SansVarnic said:

Chose the beQuiet to match the case. Lol

Like wearing a lime green shirt in a lime green car. Not that anyone would do either

 

1 hour ago, SansVarnic said:

Updated my op to include total build budget to $2500 including gpu. Dumb that gpu's cost more than the rig it goes in these days. Insane.

how much are you paying for that gpu? If it's anything more than $600 I say don't do it. And if your budget's that high then even a 4090 could fit. Tho it's not very good value at it's current price of $2000 

You could probs slot in a 4080 (for about $1100) and that'd be better and more power efficient than that 3090

But if you don't wanna spend that much on a gpu then fair enough. The 7900 xtx is also an option at $900, don't know how good it is at BOiNC tho

[SansVarnic]

1 hour ago, filpo said:

Like wearing a lime green shirt in a lime green car. Not that anyone would do either

Lol yeah.

1 hour ago, filpo said:

how much are you paying for that gpu? If it's anything more than $600 I say don't do it. And if your budget's that high then even a 4090 could fit. Tho it's not very good value at it's current price of $2000 

You could probs slot in a 4080 (for about $1100) and that'd be better and more power efficient than that 3090

But if you don't wanna spend that much on a gpu then fair enough. The 7900 xtx is also an option at $900, don't know how good it is at BOiNC tho

As little as possible, but I'm giving myself wriggle room. Definitely not paying 2k for a card haha. If I can keep the card to around 1k I'll be ok with the card. At this point it's all a good jump from my current card. And as sweet it would be to have a 4090 those were never a good buy, just bragging rights.

I'll take a look at the 4080 and 7900xtx.

The gpu will be bought last though so this isn't an immediate decision.  My more important thing was getting the main parts decided on like the mobo an cpu out of the way and you've helped me with that.

Much appreciated. 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

My more important thing was getting the main parts decided on like the mobo an cpu out of the way and you've helped me with that.

great

 

2 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

Much appreciated.

no problem, good luck!