Help with first build

[Jesus22]

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/DN6KcH

Hi guys, i don't know much about pc building so i've let other people make their "pcpp list" to help me. I put the 6750xt just because i red that it's good but i have yet to make my choice, other people suggested the sapphire 6700xt or the rx6600 to play on 1080p with good details ect (the monitor is the acer nitro KG242YEbiif). Can you give me a general opinion of the build and tell me which gpu you think would be better for me? I saw that this case (Corsair 4000D airflow) is the best seller (and best reviewed) on amazon so i went with this, i guess i'll need other fans (maybe fans hub?) but i don't know which ones, please recommend to me which one i could get not spending too much, this case is not mandatory as i am open to new options. I don't wish to spend much more. If you can, please motivate your response so that i can understand where my money are going and feeling the pc more like "mine". I live in europe, italy. Currency is euro. Primary use is for gaming but I want a cpu good enough for some light work in CAD that i may do in the future. I'm thinking about buying before or around the start of December.

I would prefer components with some rgb in them because the glass of the case is tinted so it would look better instead of just black. Last question, are there any more "hidden" costs like thermal paste or (maybe) fans hub? Things that i wouldn't think about being this my first time but that i should know. Thank you!

[Middcore]

Welcome to the forums.

 

You mention your currency is Euros, and you say you "don't wish to spend much more," but I don't see where you list your actual budget? Is it €1000? 

[Jesus22]

5 minutes ago, Middcore said:

Welcome to the forums.

 

You mention your currency is Euros, and you say you "don't wish to spend much more," but I don't see where you list your actual budget? Is it €1000? 

Oh yeah sorry, it is but i don't mind going a bit over if necessary.

[venomtail]

22 minutes ago, Jesus22 said:

the monitor is the acer nitro KG242YEbiif

You buying that or already have that moniitor?

[Jesus22]

Just now, venomtail said:

You buying that or already have that moniitor?

I don't have anything besides mouse and keyboard, i want a monitor with integrated speaker since i noticed it's cheaper (and it takes less room too)

[Middcore]

My thoughts:

 

• If you're only going to be gaming at 1080p 60fps (based on the monitor you picked), then I think the 6750 XT is somewhat excessive.
• 32GB of RAM also seems extravagant to me for a 1080p gaming build.
• On the other hand, while the Ryzen 3600 is far from a useless chip, I wouldn't buy one for a new build in 2023 unless I was on a shoestring budget. 
• You have a micro ATX motherboard for a full-ATX case, which will work fine but might look a bit odd, and you've said aesthetics is at least somewhat important to you. 
• You don't need to buy thermal paste if you're only using the stock cooler, it comes with paste pre-applied.
• I am somewhat suspicious of that PSU but I'll let someone more knowledgeable than me say whether it should be replaced. 

Here's what I would do:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€141.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€114.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€48.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€52.80 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card  (€289.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€74.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€57.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Monitor: AOC 24B1H 23.6" 1920 x 1080 60 Hz Monitor  (€98.09 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €877.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-21 16:35 CET+0100

 

So we've stepped down to an RX 7600 which will still be fine for 1080p gaming and is newer than the 6750 XT, we have a Ryzen 5600 which is significantly better than the 3600, and we have a full ATX board to fill the case. We still have over 100 Euros left in your budget for stuff like more RGB fans, more storage, you could go back to 32GB of RAM if you really wanted to, you could get a better CPU cooler, you could get a higher refresh rate monitor and this GPU would still be more than enough for it. 

 

 

[Jesus22]

4 minutes ago, Middcore said:

My thoughts:

 

• If you're only going to be gaming at 1080p 60fps (based on the monitor you picked), then I think the 6750 XT is somewhat excessive.
• 32GB of RAM also seems extravagant to me for a 1080p gaming build.
• On the other hand, while the Ryzen 3600 is far from a useless chip, I wouldn't buy one for a new build in 2023 unless I was on a shoestring budget. 
• You have a micro ATX motherboard for a full-ATX case, which will work fine but might look a bit odd, and you've said aesthetics is at least somewhat important to you. 
• You don't need to buy thermal paste if you're only using the stock cooler, it comes with paste pre-applied.
• I am somewhat suspicious of that PSU but I'll let someone more knowledgeable than me say whether it should be replaced. 

Here's what I would do:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€141.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€114.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€48.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€52.80 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card  (€289.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€74.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€57.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Monitor: AOC 24B1H 23.6" 1920 x 1080 60 Hz Monitor  (€98.09 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €877.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-21 16:35 CET+0100

 

So we've stepped down to an RX 7600 which will still be fine for 1080p gaming and is newer than the 6750 XT, we have a Ryzen 5600 which is significantly better than the 3600, and we have a full ATX board to fill the case. We still have over 100 Euros left in your budget for stuff like more RGB fans, more storage, you could go back to 32GB of RAM if you really wanted to, you could get a better CPU cooler, you could get a higher refresh rate monitor and this GPU would still be more than enough for it. 

 

 

Thank you very much.

In this case, what do you think is the major bottleneck? Is the rx7600 be good enough for at least a couple of years? I don't want to look back and regret the decision. I know that the 5600 was better than the 3600 but i didn't know if it would make the difference (also i tried to save a little bit everywhere to accomodate for a better gpu). Can you also help me with the case and the fans? Are more of them necessary (i already have a pc that gets hot, i don't want to deal with that anymore)? And if that is the case, what can you recommend me?

Do you think 16gb will actually be enough? I really don't know so i ask genuinely.

Last question just for the aesthetic, what would you recommend are some nice looking things to add? I don't want to go too far but i still want to enjoy looking at it. Maybe rgb strips? Rgb fans? I really don't know

[Jesus22]

1 hour ago, Middcore said:

My thoughts:

 

• If you're only going to be gaming at 1080p 60fps (based on the monitor you picked), then I think the 6750 XT is somewhat excessive.
• 32GB of RAM also seems extravagant to me for a 1080p gaming build.
• On the other hand, while the Ryzen 3600 is far from a useless chip, I wouldn't buy one for a new build in 2023 unless I was on a shoestring budget. 
• You have a micro ATX motherboard for a full-ATX case, which will work fine but might look a bit odd, and you've said aesthetics is at least somewhat important to you. 
• You don't need to buy thermal paste if you're only using the stock cooler, it comes with paste pre-applied.
• I am somewhat suspicious of that PSU but I'll let someone more knowledgeable than me say whether it should be replaced. 

Here's what I would do:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€141.69 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€114.91 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€48.99 @ Amazon Italia) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€52.80 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card  (€289.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€74.90 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€57.50 @ Amazon Italia) 
Monitor: AOC 24B1H 23.6" 1920 x 1080 60 Hz Monitor  (€98.09 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €877.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-21 16:35 CET+0100

 

So we've stepped down to an RX 7600 which will still be fine for 1080p gaming and is newer than the 6750 XT, we have a Ryzen 5600 which is significantly better than the 3600, and we have a full ATX board to fill the case. We still have over 100 Euros left in your budget for stuff like more RGB fans, more storage, you could go back to 32GB of RAM if you really wanted to, you could get a better CPU cooler, you could get a higher refresh rate monitor and this GPU would still be more than enough for it. 

 

 

i noticed another thing looking for the motherboard on amazon, it says that it supports 4th generation amd cpu with a bios update and something similar pops up in the pc part picker windows, is it a problem?

[Middcore]

1 hour ago, Jesus22 said:

In this case, what do you think is the major bottleneck?

I don't know what you're asking.

 

There is always a limiting factor on performance in any system in any application. "Bottlenecks" as low-to-medium-info-PC enthusiasts have become obsessed with are not a helpful concept.

 

 

1 hour ago, Jesus22 said:

Is the rx7600 be good enough for at least a couple of years?

Yes.

1 hour ago, Jesus22 said:

Can you also help me with the case and the fans? Are more of them necessary

 

Necessary, no. Helpful, yes.

1 hour ago, Jesus22 said:

Do you think 16gb will actually be enough? 

Yes.

1 hour ago, Jesus22 said:

Last question just for the aesthetic, what would you recommend are some nice looking things to add? I don't want to go too far but i still want to enjoy looking at it. Maybe rgb strips? Rgb fans? I really don't know

Nice looking is subjective.

 

4 minutes ago, Jesus22 said:

i noticed another thing looking for the motherboard on amazon, it says that it supports 4th generation amd cpu with a bios update and something similar pops up in the pc part picker windows, is it a problem?

Any B550 board bought new in 2023 will have a compatible BIOS. The MSI B550-A PRO also has a BIOS flash function you can use without a compatible CPU installed.

[Jesus22]

for bottleneck i mean what's the first thing that you would upgrade in this build down the line assuming that the purpose is mainly gaming.

 

Can you help me pick some good fans that are good for that case? Or can i just pick some random fans? I saw some article on amazon with like 5 fans at 15 euro and i guess they're not that good but i really don't know. Do you know if i will need a controller (i don't know how that's called, maybe hub?) to controll and power the fans? i don't see many slots in the motherboard for the additional fans that i would put.

 

I red that the flash function basically consists in downloading(?) the bios on an usb, connecting it with the motherboard and press a button, is it at easy as it sounds? 

 

Edit: I can't find the GPU on amazon but i can find other GPU that are "RX7600" with 8gb, i really don't know anything about that but what would be the difference? are they COMPLETELY different products or are they somewhat similar?