I can't make heads of tails of my MoBo specs about NVMes

[Mischievous]

Quick question

 

I have this MoBo https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10/sp#sp

 

The spec sheet says this;

 

Integrated in the CPU (M2A_SOCKET):

1. AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen™ Processors:
   1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSD support)
2. AMD Ryzen™ 5000 G-Series/ Ryzen™ 4000 G-Series/ 2nd Gen Ryzen™/ 2nd Gen Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega Graphics/ Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega Graphics Processors:
   1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 3.0 x4/x2 SSD support)

Integrated in the Chipset (M2B_SOCKET/M2C_SOCKET):

1. 1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 4.0 / 3.0 x4/x2 SSD support) (M2B_SOCKET)
2. 1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 SATA and PCIe 4.0 / 3.0 x2 SSD support) (M2C_SOCKET)
3. 6 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors
4. Support for RAID 0, RAID 1, and RAID 10
   * Refer to "1-8 Internal Connectors," for the installation notices for the M.2 and SATA connectors.

I already have one NVMe https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/data-storage/cssd-f1000gbmp600/force-series-gen-4-pcie-mp600-1tb-nvme-m-2-ssd-cssd-f1000gbmp600

And a random samsung 2tb SSD

 

Can I install two more NVMEs? I want to get two of these https://www.samsung.com/bg/memory-storage/nvme-ssd/980-pro-pcle-4-0-nvme-m-2-ssd-1tb-mz-v8p1t0bw/

 

I feel like I can install two more but I want to make sure and get another pair of eyes on this.

 

Also what does "Integrated in the CPU" and "Integrated in the Chipset" mean?

[PDifolco]

3 minutes ago, Mischievous said:

Quick question

 

I have this MoBo https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10/sp#sp

 

The spec sheet says this;

 

Integrated in the CPU (M2A_SOCKET):

1. AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series/ 3rd Gen Ryzen™ Processors:
   1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 4.0 x4/x2 SSD support)
2. AMD Ryzen™ 5000 G-Series/ Ryzen™ 4000 G-Series/ 2nd Gen Ryzen™/ 2nd Gen Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega Graphics/ Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega Graphics Processors:
   1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 3.0 x4/x2 SSD support)

Integrated in the Chipset (M2B_SOCKET/M2C_SOCKET):

1. 1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 SATA and PCIe 4.0 / 3.0 x4/x2 SSD support) (M2B_SOCKET)
2. 1 x M.2 connector (Socket 3, M key, type 2242/2260/2280 SATA and PCIe 4.0 / 3.0 x2 SSD support) (M2C_SOCKET)
3. 6 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors
4. Support for RAID 0, RAID 1, and RAID 10
   * Refer to "1-8 Internal Connectors," for the installation notices for the M.2 and SATA connectors.

I already have one NVMe https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/data-storage/cssd-f1000gbmp600/force-series-gen-4-pcie-mp600-1tb-nvme-m-2-ssd-cssd-f1000gbmp600

And a random samsung 2tb SSD

 

Can I install two more NVMEs? I want to get two of these https://www.samsung.com/bg/memory-storage/nvme-ssd/980-pro-pcle-4-0-nvme-m-2-ssd-1tb-mz-v8p1t0bw/

 

I feel like I can install two more but I want to make sure and get another pair of eyes on this.

 

Also what does "Integrated in the CPU" and "Integrated in the Chipset" mean?

"Integrated in the CPU" means lanes are from the CPU (24 lanes, 20 usable)  and "Integrated in the Chipset", well in the chipset (4 lanes)

There's only 2 M2 slots, you can add a third NVme with a PCie adapter, but if use it on the small bottom slot both drives will share same lanes from the chipset, unless you can bifurcate  your x16 from the GPU slot to x8x8 in BIOS and use the second CPU slot (the  second big one)

I  suppose  you can do  that, my X570 Aorus Pro allows it

Your GPU will run  on PCie4 x8 only but unless it's a 4090 it'll not hurt performance

 

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, Mischievous said:

Also what does "Integrated in the CPU" and "Integrated in the Chipset" mean?

integrated in the cpu means the ssd communicates with the cpu directly through the pcie lanes and integrated in the chipset means that the ssd in those two m.2 slots communicate to the chipset first which then go to the CPU (a bit like a broker)

 

5 minutes ago, Mischievous said:

Can I install two more NVMEs? I want to get two of these https://www.samsung.com/bg/memory-storage/nvme-ssd/980-pro-pcle-4-0-nvme-m-2-ssd-1tb-mz-v8p1t0bw/

yes, but I'd just get 1 2tb ssd

[porina]

13 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

There's only 2 M2 slots, you can add a third NVme with a PCie adapter

Adapter is not required. That mobo has three M.2 slots. One CPU connected, two chipset connected.

 

11 minutes ago, filpo said:

yes, but I'd just get 1 2tb ssd

Maybe that link was just referencing the 980 Pro, not necessarily the 1TB which might be default. Or maybe there's a sale on the 1TB model.

[PDifolco]

26 minutes ago, porina said:

Adapter is not required. That mobo has three M.2 slots. One CPU connected, two chipset connected.

 

Maybe that link was just referencing the 980 Pro, not necessarily the 1TB which might be default. Or maybe there's a sale on the 1TB model.

There's 2 M2 slots on the chipset indeed, my bad didn't read properly

But they'll have to share the x4 PCie4 bandwidth (or you can just use Gen3 drives...), an adapter on the CPU second PCie slot is the only way to have full bandwidth on all 3

[Mischievous]

Ok, I am sufficiently confused AND worried I've hooked up my mobo wrongly.

 

 

I thought A B and C were all M2 slots. But half of you say there are only two M2 slots.

 

Also my current NVMe is on Slot A at the bottom, and my GPU (I want to get a 50xx next year) is (will be) at the top PCIe slot I labeled as D, is this ok?

 

Also I wanted to get 2 1TB NVMEs just for .... well if one fails I won't lose all 2Tbs of data. Plus I feel like a 2TB NVMe should have a greater chance of failure just because there's way more chips on it.

[filpo]

15 minutes ago, Mischievous said:

I thought A B and C were all M2 slots. But half of you say there are only two M2 slots.

there are 3 m.2 slots dw. @PDifolco only said that 2 were hooked up to the chipset but they still work

 

15 minutes ago, Mischievous said:

Also my current NVMe is on Slot A at the bottom, and my GPU (I want to get a 50xx next year) is (will be) at the top PCIe slot I labeled as D, is this ok?

yes

 

15 minutes ago, Mischievous said:

Also I wanted to get 2 1TB NVMEs just for .... well if one fails I won't lose all 2Tbs of data. Plus I feel like a 2TB NVMe should have a greater chance of failure just because there's way more chips on it.

that'll work just fine then

[wONKEyeYEs]

2 hours ago, Mischievous said:

Can I install two more NVMEs?

If you install a M.2 PCIe SSD in M2C then be aware that you will lose sata 4&5, sata plugs 0,1,2, and 3 will function still.

From your MB manual...

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10/support#support-manual

 

[Mischievous]

Ok thanks, I think I understand. Thanks for clearing this all up for me.

 

  

2 hours ago, wONKEyeYEs said:

If you install a M.2 PCIe SSD in M2C then be aware that you will lose sata 4&5, sata plugs 0,1,2, and 3 will function still.

From your MB manual...

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-10/support#support-manual

 

I'll make sure to take that into account, thanks!

 

Edit: One last thing, the fact that the two M2 connectors are chipset and not CPU, means that whatever NVMe drive I put there, will be slower than its rated speed?

[porina]

25 minutes ago, Mischievous said:

Edit: One last thing, the fact that the two M2 connectors are chipset and not CPU, means that whatever NVMe drive I put there, will be slower than its rated speed?

Individually each SSD can still reach their maximum speeds. The chipset connected drives share the bandwidth to the CPU, along with other things that use the chipset. If you use a lot of stuff at once, then they may run slower as the maximum bandwidth is shared between them. Unless you're likely to do big transfers to those two SSDs at the same time, it isn't a problem. And even if you do, does it matter?

[Mischievous]

43 minutes ago, porina said:

Individually each SSD can still reach their maximum speeds. The chipset connected drives share the bandwidth to the CPU, along with other things that use the chipset. If you use a lot of stuff at once, then they may run slower as the maximum bandwidth is shared between them. Unless you're likely to do big transfers to those two SSDs at the same time, it isn't a problem. And even if you do, does it matter?

Cool thanks. I guess if I was a true power user, I'd make sure that the only intensive thing I do ((Compile Unreal 5 every now and then)) is on the NVMe that doesn't share a lane with the CPU but I really don't think it matters. Anyhow thank you all, tomorrow I'll order my two 1TB SSD 980 PROs.