13700k build questions

[p10twat]

Main concern I have is with my dependence on Lianli AIO / fans. I love the aethetic, but I've read them breaking in weeks or months (not sure if its actually widespread issue).

 

Would ddr 4 CL 18 3600 be better than cl 16 3200? I know that cl 16 should give better lowest 1% cf cl 18 but is it worth the tradeoff? (if at all noticeable). 

 

Otherwise any advice on parts would be appreciated. [I want to keep ATX Mobo (looks better in the 011 mini imo). Same with the 13700k as it's cheaper than 7900x in Aus. I'd prefer a consistent fan style.]

 

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PzDGjH)

 

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor]| $599.00 @ Centre Com

**CPU Cooler** | [Lian Li Galahad II Trinity SL-INF 61.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler] $245.00 @ BPC Technology

**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard]) | $239.00 @ PCCaseGear

**Memory** | [TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory] | $113.00

**Storage** | [Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive] | $134.00 **Video Card** | [GTX 1070] --> Keeping from previous build

**Case** | [Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini Snow Edition ATX Mid Tower Case]$179.00 @ BPC Technology

**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master V SFX Gold ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power | $239.00 @ Centre Com

**Case Fan** | [Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity 61.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack]| $155.00 @ BPC Technology

**Case Fan** | [Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity 61.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack] | $155.00 @ BPC Technology

**Case Fan** | [Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity 72.7 CFM 140 mm Fan]

| **Total** | **$2231.00**

[Shimejii]

Dont get Uni fans if you are going to be stuck with DDR4.  Seems like a that three sets of fans could go into a GPU since a 1070 is going to hold you back a lot. 310$ for just fans when it hurts the rest of your system is not advisable.

 

Also find a new PSU, thats a really expensive PSU for what you are getting. 

[p10twat]

7 hours ago, Shimejii said:

Dont get Uni fans if you are going to be stuck with DDR4.  Seems like a that three sets of fans could go into a GPU since a 1070 is going to hold you back a lot. 310$ for just fans when it hurts the rest of your system is not advisable.

 

Also find a new PSU, thats a really expensive PSU for what you are getting. 

PSU is ATX 3.0 (better compatibility with newer gpu's(?), I'm planning to upgrade GPU later (this build is suppose to be around ~3k, so I got plenty wiggle room for a decent gpu down the line). 

 

I don't understand the new GPU gen in terms of power delivery at all and what will be compatible down the line in terms of cables (year or two). Any help would be much appreciated thanks? (that's why I got 850w to future proof) 

 

Do you think ddr 5 + Mobo prices are worth it (especially due to ATX less availability), I don't know if it gives better frames. 

 

Cheers

[Shimejii]

6 hours ago, p10twat said:

PSU is ATX 3.0 (better compatibility with newer gpu's(?), I'm planning to upgrade GPU later (this build is suppose to be around ~3k, so I got plenty wiggle room for a decent gpu down the line). 

 

I don't understand the new GPU gen in terms of power delivery at all and what will be compatible down the line in terms of cables (year or two). Any help would be much appreciated thanks? (that's why I got 850w to future proof) 

 

Do you think ddr 5 + Mobo prices are worth it (especially due to ATX less availability), I don't know if it gives better frames. 

 

Cheers

DDR5 price has come crashing down to normal pricing. Its affordable now. Yes its worth it. Especially when its not all that much more now, before it made 0 sense since DDR5 was 240$+ but now its under 100$ for 32 GB.

 

PSU is indeed ATX 3.0, but we have had almost a year and many more PSU's with ATX 3.0 have come out. There are plenty more choices and they are better priced than that one.  Theres even a 850W Platinum Silverstone HELA for cheaper (Albiet 10$) or Thermaltakes Toughpower 850W Gold with ATX 3.0 for 160$ AUS https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/hCGbt6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4

 

Power cable stuff is hard to say, NVIDIA may use a new improved 12v connector, and thus for 5000 series and beyond youll have to get a new PSU again if the adapters dont work well. But honestly by that time you may already be upgrading to a new system (RTX 5000 is 2025, so RTX 6000 is probably 2028ish with 3 year cycles going forward) 

 

[p10twat]

5 hours ago, Shimejii said:

DDR5 price has come crashing down to normal pricing. Its affordable now. Yes its worth it. Especially when its not all that much more now, before it made 0 sense since DDR5 was 240$+ but now its under 100$ for 32 GB.

 

PSU is indeed ATX 3.0, but we have had almost a year and many more PSU's with ATX 3.0 have come out. There are plenty more choices and they are better priced than that one.  Theres even a 850W Platinum Silverstone HELA for cheaper (Albiet 10$) or Thermaltakes Toughpower 850W Gold with ATX 3.0 for 160$ AUS https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/hCGbt6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-tt-premium-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-4

 

Power cable stuff is hard to say, NVIDIA may use a new improved 12v connector, and thus for 5000 series and beyond youll have to get a new PSU again if the adapters dont work well. But honestly by that time you may already be upgrading to a new system (RTX 5000 is 2025, so RTX 6000 is probably 2028ish with 3 year cycles going forward) 

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/tip5y/saved/KGwTmG

 

I've made adjustments for my build to upgrade to ddr5 for $70 (ATX to mATX). No idea if the Mobo is 'good' though. 

 

PSU has to be SFX unfortunately for the o11 mini so I don't have too much choice. I've just read about ATX 3.1 coming out with a different 16pin connector so it seems buying 3.0 isn't gonna be worth. Should I just go with a 3*8pin compatible PSU cause that should be good with current gen GPUs(?) if I do upgrade soon

[Shimejii]

33 minutes ago, p10twat said:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/tip5y/saved/KGwTmG

 

I've made adjustments for my build to upgrade to ddr5 for $70 (ATX to mATX). No idea if the Mobo is 'good' though. 

 

PSU has to be SFX unfortunately for the o11 mini so I don't have too much choice. I've just read about ATX 3.1 coming out with a different 16pin connector so it seems buying 3.0 isn't gonna be worth. Should I just go with a 3*8pin compatible PSU cause that should be good with current gen GPUs(?) if I do upgrade soon

i dont agree with mobo choice, dont get a 760m if you have a 13700k. Get the full use out of it with z790, or z690 with a bios update if you want to save $$$

Is that the only SFX psu thats available in that area? If so that sucks.

 

Could always chose a different case lol

[p10twat]

2 hours ago, Shimejii said:

i dont agree with mobo choice, dont get a 760m if you have a 13700k. Get the full use out of it with z790, or z690 with a bios update if you want to save $$$

Is that the only SFX psu thats available in that area? If so that sucks.

 

Could always chose a different case lol

Mobo changed to Asus Prime z690-A. Does overclocking matter with the 13700k? I'm under the impression intel auto clock will be adequate on its own, or does the better quality board just help with performance regardless 

 

 

SFX psu for power around 750-850 is very limited yeah, about 8 options. Of which the Atx 3 is only 20 bucks more expensive. ddr 5 is also quite limited

[Shimejii]

19 minutes ago, p10twat said:

Mobo changed to Asus Prime z690-A. Does overclocking matter with the 13700k? I'm under the impression intel auto clock will be adequate on its own, or does the better quality board just help with performance regardless 

 

 

SFX psu for power around 750-850 is very limited yeah, about 8 options. Of which the Atx 3 is only 20 bucks more expensive. ddr 5 is also quite limited

Youll be tuning  it a bit voltage wise to get it to be manageable for thermals and power. The better board allows you to actually do most of the tuning, the lower boards lock out certain features, as is the intel tax. Just make sure that board has BIOS FLASH on the IO panel (where the USBs are).

 

That is pretty rough then for PSU stuff. If you are deadset on the case then so be it, but id def consider changing it if you are that limited.

[p10twat]

1 hour ago, Shimejii said:

Youll be tuning  it a bit voltage wise to get it to be manageable for thermals and power. The better board allows you to actually do most of the tuning, the lower boards lock out certain features, as is the intel tax. Just make sure that board has BIOS FLASH on the IO panel (where the USBs are).

 

That is pretty rough then for PSU stuff. If you are deadset on the case then so be it, but id def consider changing it if you are that limited.

My other case option would be full sized o11 evo but that's 100 more than the mini so in a backwards way, I'm gonna be spending the extra 100 no matter what. Thx for the advice about the Mobo and ddr 5