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Registed ram won't work on 13th gen core cpus.

 

You need the W680 chipset and unbuffered ecc ram for ecc support

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hello everyone!

 

i recently built my first server, using an 18 core xeon e5-2695 v4, a random chinese mobo and some very cheap ecc ram

 

i have found myself needing an upgrade again

 

so im thinking of getting hold of a cheap i7 13700k i have found, and since z690 mobos are still availble, i'll just buy one new

 

my question is: will my registered 4rx4 memory work on regular motherboards or do i need to use the w680 chipset??

 

the other option is to buy new ram but i need capacity so i would rather not

 

cheers!

 

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Registered memory has never worked on any Core-series chips. Unbuffered is your best option, will work regardless of chipset - though with specific chipsets as aforementioned, you can get the benefit of ECC with unregistered memory.

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13 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Registed ram won't work on 13th gen core cpus.

 

You need the W680 chipset and unbuffered ecc ram for ecc support

 

2 minutes ago, da na said:

Registered memory has never worked on any Core-series chips. Unbuffered is your best option, will work regardless of chipset - though with specific chipsets as aforementioned, you can get the benefit of ECC with unregistered memory.

back to ebay then i guess, the xeon p-8124 is looking pretty good

gaming system: Intel core I9 12900ks / biostar Z690A valkyrie / 4x8gb corsair Vengeance @3333Mhz ram / RX 7900XTX pulse gpu / Thermalright peerless assassin 140 /Coolermaster Qube 500 case / Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w power supply

 

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15 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

I'm curious, what do you want in the upgrade? That p-8124 doesn't seem to have much more cpu performance.

yea after a bit more research i found out the same, i want more single core performance without sacrificing the core count, my best option so far is an i9 7980xe

gaming system: Intel core I9 12900ks / biostar Z690A valkyrie / 4x8gb corsair Vengeance @3333Mhz ram / RX 7900XTX pulse gpu / Thermalright peerless assassin 140 /Coolermaster Qube 500 case / Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w power supply

 

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5 hours ago, ki8aras said:

yea after a bit more research i found out the same, i want more single core performance without sacrificing the core count, my best option so far is an i9 7980xe

Thats a i7 so it won't use registered dimms.

 

I'd probably get something like a 7900x here. Then you don't have e cores to deal with. And get new ram. 

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12 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats a i7 so it won't use registered dimms.

 

I'd probably get something like a 7900x here. Then you don't have e cores to deal with. And get new ram. 

from what ive read, it can use registered dimms (cuz the x299 platform supports it) but it won't use the ecc part, which is fine with me

(here's where i read that:

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12 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats a i7 so it won't use registered dimms.

 

I'd probably get something like a 7900x here. Then you don't have e cores to deal with. And get new ram. 

or i may go epyc, i dismissed it at first cuz i thought single core performance was fairly low, but by the looks of it, an epyc 7402 almost matches the 7980xe in single 9
core and beats it in multi core

gaming system: Intel core I9 12900ks / biostar Z690A valkyrie / 4x8gb corsair Vengeance @3333Mhz ram / RX 7900XTX pulse gpu / Thermalright peerless assassin 140 /Coolermaster Qube 500 case / Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w power supply

 

laptop: Dell xps 9510, 3.5k OLED, i7 11800h, rtx 3050 ti, 2x16gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, 1TB main drive, 2TB add in ssd

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13 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats a i7 so it won't use registered dimms.

 

I'd probably get something like a 7900x here. Then you don't have e cores to deal with. And get new ram. 

also cuz i thought of the same thing, will e-cores be a hinderance for me?

my workload is a bunch of virtual machines, a plex server and a gaming machine (for the time being)

gaming system: Intel core I9 12900ks / biostar Z690A valkyrie / 4x8gb corsair Vengeance @3333Mhz ram / RX 7900XTX pulse gpu / Thermalright peerless assassin 140 /Coolermaster Qube 500 case / Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 12 1500w power supply

 

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