14900k vs 13900k Which one should I buy?

[spacehunter0413]

Greetings,

 

I need to buy a CPU for a desktop with 4090, which one should I buy? Please recommend liquid coolers as well. My priority is heat efficiency, I don't want my CPU to be too hot.

 

Region: UK

 

Thank you very much.

[Ottoman420]

14900k sucks by the look of the early reviews wait for 13th gen price cuts

[GuiltySpark_]

8 minutes ago, spacehunter0413 said:

Greetings,

 

I need to buy a CPU for a desktop with 4090, which one should I buy? Please recommend liquid coolers as well. My priority is heat efficiency, I don't want my CPU to be too hot.

 

Region: UK

 

Thank you very much.

You've watched all the reviews of 14900k already? 

 

Regardless, they're both furnaces and if its for gaming there are far better options. 

[Naijin]

17 minutes ago, spacehunter0413 said:

Greetings,

 

I need to buy a CPU for a desktop with 4090, which one should I buy? Please recommend liquid coolers as well. My priority is heat efficiency, I don't want my CPU to be too hot.

 

Region: UK

 

Thank you very much.

It will run very hot either way, it's designed to run full power until 100 degrees and then throttle. Even with a 360mm AIO, most reviewers see the 14900K (and 14700K, 14600K) run close or at 100 degrees during 100% load. Even during gaming it will run hot and use a lot of power. That's just how Intel designed them.

 

If you want something efficient and powerful, look at the non-X variant of the Ryzen 7000 series or even a 7800x3D if you're only gaming. For productivity, Ryzen 9 7900 is a great choice. If you do need/want Intel, go 12th gen or even 13th with price cuts.

[ChrisLoudon]

14 minutes ago, spacehunter0413 said:

Greetings,

 

I need to buy a CPU for a desktop with 4090, which one should I buy? Please recommend liquid coolers as well. My priority is heat efficiency, I don't want my CPU to be too hot.

 

Region: UK

 

Thank you very much.

Have you considered not bothering with an i9 and settling for i7 or even i5?

 

My 4090 is paired with a 13600k and it appears to be perfect match.

 

On the original topic, I agree with @Ottoman420, I think wait for 13th gen price cuts.

[PDifolco]

26 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

You've watched all the reviews of 14900k already? 

 

Regardless, they're both furnaces and if its for gaming there are far better options. 

No need to watch all reviews, this is enough for me and confirm your point :

 

 

 

[venomtail]

Since they'll be the same price I'd assume the 14th gen. Realistically unsold 13900's will be on sale by a significant margin that even the better performance can't offset the extra cost.

[starsmine]

38 minutes ago, Ottoman420 said:

14900k sucks by the look of the early reviews wait for 13th gen price cuts

sucks is a weird way to phrase it.

The only difference is a on chip voltage management so yes its not much faster then 13th, but it can clock higher while using lower watts with the same total power budget. (with the exception of the i7 line which adds 4 e cores, which doesn't do that much a benchmark test suit as it would be background apps that run off those)

Thats literally it, but to say it sucks makes it sound like its worse.

 

But yes, large delta's in pricing between the 13th and 14th gen would really hurt the 14th gens value. 

 

[GuiltySpark_]

3 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Since they'll be the same price I'd assume the 14th gen. 

They're not, at least not this morning at Microcenter.

 

[Agall]

43 minutes ago, spacehunter0413 said:

Greetings,

 

I need to buy a CPU for a desktop with 4090, which one should I buy? Please recommend liquid coolers as well. My priority is heat efficiency, I don't want my CPU to be too hot.

 

Region: UK

 

Thank you very much.

Are you referring to temperature or power consumption? Both 13900k/14900k are power hungry monsters compared to something like the 7800x3D. CPU temperature is just the result of cooling, in no traditional way will a 13900k/14900k have 'acceptable' temperatures by most people's standards without exotic modifications/cooling.

[venomtail]

Just now, GuiltySpark_ said:

They're not, at least not this morning at Microcenter.

 

In the press briefings I read that they're meant to have the exact same MSRP. Of course most sellers will decide themselves if they want to follow that but at least that's Intel's intentions.

[starsmine]

1 minute ago, venomtail said:

In the press briefings I read that they're meant to have the exact same MSRP. Of course most sellers will decide themselves if they want to follow that but at least that's Intel's intentions.

yes, same launch MSRP.
But intel knows the 13th gen has all already dropped across the board. 

The intention was not to have the priced the same, the intention was to not shake up the pricing structure

[Dedayog]

29 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

They're not, at least not this morning at Microcenter.

 

Ehh, 3.5% price delta is basically the same price

 

Though the Bundle with the 13900K makes it a no brainer between them.

[starsmine]

2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Ehh, 3.5% price delta is basically the same price

 

Though the Bundle with the 13900K makes it a no brainer between them.

its more than 3.5% with the ram and mobo bundle

[Dedayog]

36 minutes ago, starsmine said:

its more than 3.5% with the ram and mobo bundle

Right, isn't that what I said?   

[darwin006]

12 hours ago, spacehunter0413 said:

Greetings,

 

I need to buy a CPU for a desktop with 4090, which one should I buy? Please recommend liquid coolers as well. My priority is heat efficiency, I don't want my CPU to be too hot.

 

Region: UK

 

Thank you very much.

R9 7950X3D it matches or beats the 14900k in gaming performance while being much for power efficient and high core count makes it good for production work tasks, unless you need Intel for some Intel only feature. Since you are going to do production work related things with the PC I suspect getting the most performance will be worth it to you so just go for the 14900k but maybe since you didnt get the 13900k and its been out for over a year now maybe you dont need the maximum performance and stepping down to the 14700k would be better for you because of the better efficiency.

 

[Lukjo]

Short no brainer answer:

The Ryzen 7 7800X3D (that is if your buying a pc from scratch and if you can still choose a platform)

+Cheaper

+More power efficient

+Better performance

 

Answering your question:

The 13900k If u can get a sweet deal out of it,its the same performance as 14th gen, intel never feature locks their CPU's. The 14900k is basically a OC'ed 13900K that barely runs faster but is way more inefficient aka a bad overclock (which is being appraised just as well by the reviews as just being a waste of time)

 

Best case scenario: You already have a CPU and a platform running and u are actually looking to upgrade... then just wait for intel 15th gen pray its on the same mobo platform or switch platforms to the new amd 8th gen.I belive AMD will be leading the gaming performance space for the next couple of years with their X3D line-up

Thats of course if your not running any application that benefits highly from an Intel platform

 

[spacehunter0413]

Thank you guys. AMD YES. TOOTHPASTE NO