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Gurky

Budget (including currency): £350?

Country:  UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly games currently CS2, BF2042, Starfield. 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Current Set up is 1660 Super with a 1440P G7 Monitor CPU is an I5-8600k. Not planning a CPU upload soon will just OC it for now, I've never really ran into CPU issues. 32GB RAM.

Case is a MASTERBOX LITE 5 with no front pannel (Zero relevance but helped cool my system.) 

Clearance - GFX    400mm/16.14", 400mm/16.14" (w/o 3.5" HDD cage)  I should be good for length. (Only Time I've said that in my life) 

 

GPU Bit:

I'm stuck on an upgrade since the new 7000 Series has dropped. I was pretty set on the RX 6700 XT for £319 Great value and around the price I wanted (New not used) but with the RX 7*00 launch anything for the RX7800 XT says to get the RX 6800 XT well for the UK and what I've seen is that the RX 7800 XT is cheaper by about £50. So doesn't make sense to jump last-gen. So it's RX7800 XT over RX 6800 XT but also RX 7800 XT over RX 7700 XT.

 

So guess my 3 options now are:

RX6700 XT - £319 Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT PULSE 

RX 7700 XT - £429 PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT FIGHTER

RX 7800 XT - £479 Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT PULSE 

Reference:

RX 6800 XT - £ 539 PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT

 

Sapphire is best for AMD? Vs Powercool and XFX? 

 

PSU Bit:

PSU will be Corsair RM750e (2023) Fully Modular Low-Noise ATX Power Supply  (£100 - £115)

This looks good too: Seasonic G12-GM-650 650W (£79) I'd probably pick this due to £20 savings plus Seasonic = good? 

 

The Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT PULSE  says 700W recommended I'd be looking at a 650W with an undervolt so would that be good? 

 

I only have a 500W PSU so maybe need a new one for RX 7000 which bumps cost. So In my head, it's got an RX 6700 XT for £319 (Maybe an extra £80 for PSU so £400) or go RX7800 XT £479 ( + PSU at £80 so £559) since going RX 7700 XT doesn't make much sense for £50 less. 

 

Any PSU works right no connectors needed?

 

Back to GPU Bit

Help me?! Will the extra £210 to go RX 7800 XT really be a good shoot vs a RX 6700 XT. Half me says just do it long term may get longer and support will be better and drivers and whatnot Plus AMD newer features like that hypr rx. But I also managed to do 1440p for 2 years on a 1660 Super when I was told I was stupid. I'm not trying to run blazing fast FPS and ultra settings having a 1050 TI and then 1660 super I've always been a Low - med type guy. 

 

I think I needed to rant this out and you guys always have some awesome help. So rant back? 

 

The more I add lines the more I think new things! 

RX 7800 XT + PSU is £559

RX6700 XT + PSU is £398

 

£160 difference - £50 for GPU so £110 Seems the 7800 XT is a fat good deal 

 

I can sell my 1660 for maybe £50 to a friend still rocking a 1050 Ti Or use it in my PLEX server when I finally build it. But that's another story. 

 

I thank anyone who suffers to read my ranting but also thank you for suffering! 

 

The RX7800 XT would be end of September so I have a little time to find deals/stock bits.  (And get paid if I sell anything this month!) 

 

~Gurky 

 

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It's difficult for me to follow your British reasoning lol 😛 but I agree with the conclusion, 7800XT is the best value 🙂 

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I mean, you're paying 50% more for the 7800xt over the 6700xt.  it's not a question of if the 7800xt is better, but is it worth it.

 

You're already on 1440p, though I am curious why with a 8600K + 1660.  That's nowhere near 1440p gear.   Both the 6700xt and 7800xt work on 1440p fine.  

 

It performs better, but not 50% of course.  So you are the one that can identify your wallet, income, expenses, etc.

 

You went from a 350 budget to damn near 600.  Why even mention budget at all?  

 

If you have the money, I would get the 7800xt + PSU. 

 

 

 

 

 

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7800XT would be best or if you could try to aim to get a 6800XT for £350-£400 used. Though the extra £80 isn't too far off for more features and peace of mind. 7800XT would be my pick as well.

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Also, if you game a lot, the 7000-series are much more power efficient so if you pair it with a more efficient power supply your electricity bill should be less painful.

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Ok so the games you mentoined are all cpu bound like a lot. A pure 6 core cant deliver a stutter free experience.

 

So id say a 6700xt + cpu upgrade. Its also cheaper to move platform than to stay on intel since the only worthwile cpu's are a i7 8700(k) or 9900(k) and those are EXPENSIVE and are beaten by yesterdays/todays budget ones

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

I mean, you're paying 50% more for the 7800xt over the 6700xt.  it's not a question of if the 7800xt is better, but is it worth it.

 

You're already on 1440p, though I am curious why with a 8600K + 1660.  That's nowhere near 1440p gear.   Both the 6700xt and 7800xt work on 1440p fine.  

 

It performs better, but not 50% of course.  So you are the one that can identify your wallet, income, expenses, etc.

 

You went from a 350 budget to damn near 600.  Why even mention budget at all?  

 

If you have the money, I would get the 7800xt + PSU. 

 

 

 

 

 

I know not a 1440P setup but damn works! 60Fps in BF2042 240 in CSGO and 120 in CS2. I play MW1 reboot online 60FPS. It really does handle itself more than people think just need to be smart on settings. It does make me laugh that people say "Not for 1440p" but people play console at 30Fps and call it good so all personal preference! 

 

Yeah I'm terrible with budget! (Luckily I can be a little) 

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1 hour ago, venomtail said:

7800XT would be best or if you could try to aim to get a 6800XT for £350-£400 used. Though the extra £80 isn't too far off for more features and peace of mind. 7800XT would be my pick as well.

Yeah I have had a look and can get a used RX6800 XT for like £500 on ebay it's mad at the moment! The extra gets a better new, GPU with a warranty. 

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1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

Also, if you game a lot, the 7000-series are much more power efficient so if you pair it with a more efficient power supply your electricity bill should be less painful.

Ooo good to know because I have my PC on from 9am till 11pm. I work from home and do far to much gaming at work so that would be pretty handy. I get it will use more since more power but a better PSU would help offset it. 

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4 minutes ago, Gurky said:

Ooo good to know because I have my PC on from 9am till 11pm. I work from home and do far to much gaming at work so that would be pretty handy. I get it will use more since more power but a better PSU would help offset it. 

Not that much tho, it's like 260W to 300 for 7800Xt vs 6800XT, and the 7700XT consume MORE than 6700XT (245 to 230W) !

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1 hour ago, jaslion said:

Ok so the games you mentoined are all cpu bound like a lot. A pure 6 core cant deliver a stutter free experience.

 

So id say a 6700xt + cpu upgrade. Its also cheaper to move platform than to stay on intel since the only worthwile cpu's are a i7 8700(k) or 9900(k) and those are EXPENSIVE and are beaten by yesterdays/todays budget ones

Hmm yeah, I guess I don't take into account my GPU sat at 100% and CPU 60% because of the limit. I mean I can always upgrade to an AMD CPU next month if it's that bad a bundle such as super quick google Ryzen 5 5600X + B550 is about £279.

 

I know won't help loads but I can OC my CPU a little. I'm not looking for balls to the fall performance just good. 

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3 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Not that much tho, it's like 260W to 300 for 7800Xt vs 6800XT, and the 7700XT consume MORE than 6700XT (245 to 230W) !

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Still more than my 125W 1660 Super! Obviously, underload mind that. 

 

EDIT some quick google math £1.28 a week based on 4 hours a day at full load. 

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