Building my first pc

[AlwysWin]

Hey all so im looking to buy an i5-12400f, Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz ram, GIGABYTE B760M DS3H DDR4, what we think. Im using the pc for daily trading on the stock market and then also gaming like LOL, valorant, maybe some solo player games etc. Please give me some info on what yall thinking.

[AlwysWin]

im also having a 600 psu

[BiotechBen]

13 minutes ago, AlwysWin said:

im also having a 600 psu

Which 600W PSU?

And what is your video output, the 12400F does not have integrated graphics.

[SorryBella]

25 minutes ago, AlwysWin said:

Im using the pc for daily trading on the stock market

web interface or dedicated application?

[AlwysWin]

51 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Which 600W PSU?

And what is your video output, the 12400F does not have integrated graphics.

so its just a thermal take 600 gold but heres what i wanna say, i need a gaming. pc thats a decent budget pc. For gaming and daily trading. Does it matter if it has integrated graphics? I have a rtx 2060 im puttin in it i should of stated that sorry

[AlwysWin]

45 minutes ago, SorryBella said:

web interface or dedicated application?

its thinkorswim their app

[kitnoman]

I don't know about your budget, but if the very least if the price difference of a 12400f and a 12400 is around $20, just get the non-F. It's still a great investment on something that you may not need in the future. But if you do, like when troubleshooting or if your dedicated gpu has an issue and you can't replace it yet, having an igpu would save a lot of time. Better yet, "IF" you can add $50 on your 12400f budget, get a 12600k or 13400. As for the PSU, 600-650w well built psu is enough for even a nvidia XX70 class cards(just learn to undervolt cpu/gpu as well). 2060 is just right and you could probably even upgrade to a 250-300w gpu(as long as it's undervolted).

 

Personally, I believe that when your budget is limited, here's where the budget mostly need to go.

1 GPU/CPU

2 CPU/GPU

3 Monitor

4 PSU

5 Motherboard

 

Depending on your use case, you might want a balance or more powerful gpu/gpu or vice versa. As for monitor, it's the main peripheral you look at and interact with. You might have a good gpu/cpu but if you have a crappy monitor, you will still have a bad experience overall(at least decent monitors are affordable now). Next is the PSU, simply put it's probably one of the long lasting parts that you would still be using on your next build. For example I got a 750w when I built my first pc last 2010, and I kept it for 2 upgrades, until 2020. Even now it's still working on our guest computer that I built using my used parts. Then lastly, motherboard, as much as possible, you shouldn't cheapen out on your mobo. Check the features, like number of usb's, bios flashback,dual bios,etc.

 

Then the next things you need to consider are ssds. Since you don't do professional work, even the old sata ssd would be enough, but since ssds are cheap now, stick with nvme 3.0 that's around 2000-3500mb/s read speeds. Those are more than enough and only go for those 5000mb/s or higher if they almost the same price. Also with the current pricing, 2tb is the best bang for your buck. As your built is intel, you really don't need to go crazy with your ram, ddr4 3200 is just right. If possible, between all the available 3200mhz, get the one with the lowest(tightest) rated timings within the same price point. Then case and cooler, there are a lot of budget case and coolers that looks decent and perform well enough. In a budget build, you don't have to buy an $80-100 or more for each of these. You can just get a double tower, 6 heatpipe, like the thermalright peerless assassin for less than $40 and can cool even ryzen7/9 or i7/9. For case, there are mesh one that's just around $50. They may not look the prettiest, but it get's the job done. In a budget build, only get cases that's around $80-100 is if it comes with at least 3 fans. For example this Montech X3 Mesh 6pcs. It's not addressable rgb, but you can just turn it off, the best thing about it is that you get 3 140mm and 3 120mm fans for $70.

For keyboards, mice and headsets/speakers, I'm not going to comment about that. There are people who goes crazy over them and some just want decent. You won't know where you truly belong until you actually tried.

[AlwysWin]

On 8/8/2023 at 11:30 PM, kitnoman said:

I don't know about your budget, but if the very least if the price difference of a 12400f and a 12400 is around $20, just get the non-F. It's still a great investment on something that you may not need in the future. But if you do, like when troubleshooting or if your dedicated gpu has an issue and you can't replace it yet, having an igpu would save a lot of time. Better yet, "IF" you can add $50 on your 12400f budget, get a 12600k or 13400. As for the PSU, 600-650w well built psu is enough for even a nvidia XX70 class cards(just learn to undervolt cpu/gpu as well). 2060 is just right and you could probably even upgrade to a 250-300w gpu(as long as it's undervolted).

 

Personally, I believe that when your budget is limited, here's where the budget mostly need to go.

1 GPU/CPU

2 CPU/GPU

3 Monitor

4 PSU

5 Motherboard

 

Depending on your use case, you might want a balance or more powerful gpu/gpu or vice versa. As for monitor, it's the main peripheral you look at and interact with. You might have a good gpu/cpu but if you have a crappy monitor, you will still have a bad experience overall(at least decent monitors are affordable now). Next is the PSU, simply put it's probably one of the long lasting parts that you would still be using on your next build. For example I got a 750w when I built my first pc last 2010, and I kept it for 2 upgrades, until 2020. Even now it's still working on our guest computer that I built using my used parts. Then lastly, motherboard, as much as possible, you shouldn't cheapen out on your mobo. Check the features, like number of usb's, bios flashback,dual bios,etc.

 

Then the next things you need to consider are ssds. Since you don't do professional work, even the old sata ssd would be enough, but since ssds are cheap now, stick with nvme 3.0 that's around 2000-3500mb/s read speeds. Those are more than enough and only go for those 5000mb/s or higher if they almost the same price. Also with the current pricing, 2tb is the best bang for your buck. As your built is intel, you really don't need to go crazy with your ram, ddr4 3200 is just right. If possible, between all the available 3200mhz, get the one with the lowest(tightest) rated timings within the same price point. Then case and cooler, there are a lot of budget case and coolers that looks decent and perform well enough. In a budget build, you don't have to buy an $80-100 or more for each of these. You can just get a double tower, 6 heatpipe, like the thermalright peerless assassin for less than $40 and can cool even ryzen7/9 or i7/9. For case, there are mesh one that's just around $50. They may not look the prettiest, but it get's the job done. In a budget build, only get cases that's around $80-100 is if it comes with at least 3 fans. For example this Montech X3 Mesh 6pcs. It's not addressable rgb, but you can just turn it off, the best thing about it is that you get 3 140mm and 3 120mm fans for $70.

For keyboards, mice and headsets/speakers, I'm not going to comment about that. There are people who goes crazy over them and some just want decent. You won't know where you truly belong until you actually tried.

I fully appreciate the response. This was a great read. I really am lost on this stuff, i used to have gaming pc but it was built for me by a buddy so idk what works what doesnt, i have a great 1ms 144hz monitor and keyboard mouse etc. I guess let me ask you, if you had a budget of 800-1000 what would you build. Keep in mind again gaming and day trading. and what ever you put... im going to consider following that and ordering the parts  

[kitnoman]

6 hours ago, AlwysWin said:

I fully appreciate the response. This was a great read. I really am lost on this stuff, i used to have gaming pc but it was built for me by a buddy so idk what works what doesnt, i have a great 1ms 144hz monitor and keyboard mouse etc. I guess let me ask you, if you had a budget of 800-1000 what would you build. Keep in mind again gaming and day trading. and what ever you put... im going to consider following that and ordering the parts  

This would probably one of my choices:
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13400 2.5 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($37.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 PG Lightning/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($170.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($48.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar Archon 2 Mesh RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 Snow - TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1005.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 09:58 EDT-0400

 

Z790 because it's still cheap and incase you upgrade to a 14th gen or a K version you can. You can replace it with anything cheaper like a Gigabyte z690 AD UX for $160. You can go with b660 or b760, but the price isn't much different. For the ssd, you can stick with Silicon Power P34A80, since it's the cheapest I know that has dram.

Another is an AM4 build if you want a 16gb gpu.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($190.16 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($37.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($48.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($43.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  ($439.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar Archon 2 Mesh RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 Snow - TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1005.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 10:05 EDT-0400

 

If you want a longer "future proof" when it comes with upgradability, you need AM5:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($221.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($37.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($157.55 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory  ($77.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($43.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($319.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar Archon 2 Mesh RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 Snow - TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1002.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 10:15 EDT-0400

 

If you want the cheapest, and your monitor is 1080p and if you are going to keep it for a long time and no plan yet switching with a 1440p, I don't recommend it, but here's the cheapest you can go for:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Soul 110 54 CFM CPU Cooler  ($29.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z590 Extreme ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($116.00 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($48.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($43.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($234.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar Archon 2 Mesh RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 700 BR 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $736.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-10 10:25 EDT-0400

 

Or you can wait for the next AMD CPU that's rumored to release by the end of the year. You don't have to upgrade into it, but if the 8000 ryzen comes out, surely the prices of all existing cpu would lower down.