NEW PC Build for Gaming, Programming & Machine Learning

[theTrooper83]

Budget (including currency):  £800-1200

Country:  UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  I dont do any heavy gaming. 4k gaming would be nice but 1080p is fine. PC is manily used for programming and now I am starting to learn Machine learning (beginner)

Other details:

 

Exisiting Equipment:

GPU: I have just bought: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 VENTUS 3X 12G OC 12GB GDDR6 : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08WRP83LN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Case: I want to use my existing case which is :Corsair CC-9011049-WW Obsidian Series 450D Windowed : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CC-9011049-WW-Obsidian-Mid-Tower-Performance/dp/B00I6BJ8MQ

 

New Equipment:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700x : https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5700X-Processor-16-thread/dp/B09VCHQHZ6/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1M0EBK1N6MDMI&keywords=amd+ryzen+7+5700x&s=computers&sprefix=amd+ryzen+7+5700x%2Ccomputers%2C114&sr=1-2

PSU: AX760i https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-ax760i/:

 

So I am looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 5700x, is this a good cpu?

 

I am looking for advice on getting parts for the rest the Rig.

1. Components Needed:

   • RAM
   • Motherboard
   • M.2 SATA drive for OS
   • Second drive for general storage
   • Possible 2 new 4k monitors ( not essential as i have some and can upgrade these in the future)

2. Storage Performance:

   • Prioritize fast storage for both OS and general use.

3. Power Supply Unit (PSU):

   • Inquire if existing PSU can be reused.

4. Noise and Power Efficiency:

   • Desire for a quiet system.
   • Preference for low power draw, but not a top priority.

5. Future-Proofing:

   • Aim for system longevity and compatibility for future upgrades.
   • Plan for a GPU upgrade in a few years.

 

What are the best options for me?

 

Thank you in advance

 

 

 

 

[brob]

You might find uk.pcpartpicker.com useful.

 

The AX760i was released in late 2012. That makes it a relatively old model. I would not reuse even the best PSU in a new system if it is more than 10 years old. 

 

AM4 is a dead platform. Other than the odd X3D release there is likely not going to be new CPU for that platform. If you are looking for longer lasting platforms consider AM5 or LGA1700 (at least one more CPU generation).

 

Use NVMe M.2 drives. SATA is very slow by comparison.

[theTrooper83]

So after checking the posts on this site I came across a build @SorryBella had produced for another member. I have just swapped out the GPU for my choice.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8BDYcH

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (£273.95 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (£104.02 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B660M BAZOOKA DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£183.69 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (£308.19 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£93.85 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI RTX 3060 Ventus 3X 12G OC GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (£279.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.02 @ NeoComputers) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£135.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1455.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 01:52 BST+0100

 

This has probably come just a bit over budget. Any ideas where I could make upto £200 savings.

 

Thanks in advance 

[SorryBella]

6 hours ago, theTrooper83 said:

PC is manily used for programming and now I am starting to learn Machine learning (beginner)

Then really that 3060 12GB is just gonna be scraping by. Do you want me to subtract the 3060 cost from the budget? Because i wouldnt go for 128GB just for starter ML machine, 64 is more than enough until you get actual payroll on it.

[theTrooper83]

6 hours ago, SorryBella said:

Then really that 3060 12GB is just gonna be scraping by. Do you want me to subtract the 3060 cost from the budget? Because i wouldnt go for 128GB just for starter ML machine, 64 is more than enough until you get actual payroll on it.

Yes please, so I would say a budget of up to £1000. Thank you.

 

What alternative GPU would you consider. I've had a look and anything with 12gb or above seems pricey?

 

I forgot to mention I am planning on dual booting between windows and Ubuntu.

 

Thank you 

[SorryBella]

11 minutes ago, theTrooper83 said:

What alternative GPU would you consider. I've had a look and anything with 12gb or above seems pricey?

very much is but really we can squeeze it at this price either new or used. But honestly I wouldn't bother going thru with the refund, anything higher would need a pretty heavy compromise elsewhere.

14 minutes ago, theTrooper83 said:

I forgot to mention I am planning on dual booting between windows and Ubuntu.

This would also mean 2 drives, Windows bootloader security would just brick your Ubuntu partition. Install them on separate drive.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£379.95 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan CPU Cooler  (£47.40 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.98 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Scythe Kaze Flex 79.76 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£6.63 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £968.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 09:18 BST+0100

 

 

[theTrooper83]

8 hours ago, SorryBella said:

very much is but really we can squeeze it at this price either new or used. But honestly I wouldn't bother going thru with the refund, anything higher would need a pretty heavy compromise elsewhere.

This would also mean 2 drives, Windows bootloader security would just brick your Ubuntu partition. Install them on separate drive.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£379.95 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan CPU Cooler  (£47.40 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.98 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Scythe Kaze Flex 79.76 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£6.63 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £968.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 09:18 BST+0100

 

 

Thank you for taking the time to sort this. I could add another £200-300 pounds plus get a refund on the GPU.  Do you think i could get a better GPU with 12GB+ for around the £500 mark or do you think it is best to stick with the 3060?

[SorryBella]

1 minute ago, theTrooper83 said:

I could add another £200-300 pounds plus get a refund on the GPU.  Do you think i could get a better GPU with 12GB+ for around the £500 mark or do you think it is best to stick with the 3060?

Yeah, used 3080Ti can be found there abouts and that would be a pretty sizable bump in performance but you do give up a bit of the VRAM. But if you want all new, youre close to a 4070 which would be a decent upgrade.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZ8WY9Z9?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[igormp]

8 hours ago, SorryBella said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£379.95 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan CPU Cooler  (£47.40 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.98 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£65.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£99.98 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case Fan: Scythe Kaze Flex 79.76 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£6.63 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £968.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 09:18 BST+0100

OP already has a case, and IMO it could be worth to halve the storage or go for cheaper drives so the ram could be upgraded to 2x32gb just to be safe.

46 minutes ago, theTrooper83 said:

Thank you for taking the time to sort this. I could add another £200-300 pounds plus get a refund on the GPU.  Do you think i could get a better GPU with 12GB+ for around the £500 mark or do you think it is best to stick with the 3060?

Since you're just getting started, I'd say that the 3060 is the perfect GPU for your budget, no need to stress looking for other GPUs.

[filpo]

54 minutes ago, theTrooper83 said:

Thank you for taking the time to sort this. I could add another £200-300 pounds plus get a refund on the GPU.  Do you think i could get a better GPU with 12GB+ for around the £500 mark or do you think it is best to stick with the 3060?

If you add about 250 pounds to your budget I would go for an edited version of @SorryBella's build 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gJ6G34

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£349.95 @ Box Limited) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£46.59 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£149.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (£109.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£94.45 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Zotac Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (£564.86 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.99 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£119.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (£8.62 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £1497.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-06 18:24 BST+0100

[theTrooper83]

Thank you all for Contributing your thoughts on this.  I have put together a list from both suggested builds.  Here is what i have come with:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/g2C328

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  (£360.88 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£46.59 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (£151.16 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory  (£232.48 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£110.81 @ NeoComputers)
Total: £1065.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-09 11:01 BST+0100

 

Just a couple of questions. Is it worth getting the 13700KF over the 13700 or 13700F.  It has a higher clock frequency. I have seen a Youtube Vid and after testing the 13700 and 13700k the power draw difference was minimal?  If i was to get the 13700KF would the suggested CPU fans still be appropiate, Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler or SilentiumPC Fortis 5 Dual Fan CPU Cooler. @SorryBella, @filpo any thoughts on this?

 

thank for your advice in advance