New build

[Wild Walker]

I am planning to build a new pc but I'm not sure which of these 2 builds is the best choice to get.

Right now I am still gaming on a 1080p monitor but I am planning to switch to a 1440p one.

And I am going with Micro ATX becouse of the case size and the space I have for it.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€467.80 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€118.80 @ Paradigit) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€204.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€110.55 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Lexar NM790 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€42.99 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€91.85 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€639.00 @ Azerty) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€94.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.99 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €1879.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-30 11:24 CEST+0200

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€249.95 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€118.80 @ Paradigit) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€204.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€110.55 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Lexar NM790 512 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€42.99 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Lexar NM710 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€91.85 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€909.00 @ Azerty) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€94.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD850GM 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.99 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Total: €1932.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-30 11:25 CEST+0200

[QuantumSingularity]

Considering you can fit a 7900XT in that budget of €2000, none of them is good:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€467.80 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€63.43 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€136.14 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€99.00 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€829.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.85 @ Megekko) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€138.85 @ Azerty) 
Total: €1961.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-30 11:49 CEST+0200

 

You don't need that 500GB NVMe drive. If you really want a system only drive, get the 1TB 970Evo, which has DRAM and cache for jyst €18 more.

The AK620 is as good as the D15 for half the price and it's also a total overkill for Ryzen 7800X3D.

Changed the memory to a faster one with EXPO, not XMP profile.

7900XT - a class higher than the 4070Ti GPU and 2 classes higher than the regular 4070.

Slight change to the case

That gigabyte PSU is from the series which gained fame through burning people's houses down. Wouldn't put it in any sort of a system, so i replaced it with actual good one. 

[Wild Walker]

1 hour ago, QuantumSingularity said:

Considering you can fit a 7900XT in that budget of €2000, none of them is good:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€467.80 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€63.43 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€162.95 @ Megekko) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€136.14 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€99.00 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€829.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.85 @ Megekko) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€138.85 @ Azerty) 
Total: €1961.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-30 11:49 CEST+0200

 

You don't need that 500GB NVMe drive. If you really want a system only drive, get the 1TB 970Evo, which has DRAM and cache for jyst €18 more.

The AK620 is as good as the D15 for half the price and it's also a total overkill for Ryzen 7800X3D.

Changed the memory to a faster one with EXPO, not XMP profile.

7900XT - a class higher than the 4070Ti GPU and 2 classes higher than the regular 4070.

Slight change to the case

That gigabyte PSU is from the series which gained fame through burning people's houses down. Wouldn't put it in any sort of a system, so i replaced it with actual good one. 

The RX 7900 XT uses to much power for my liking.

I already use a 500gb system drive in my current build and that in enough, the 2tb is for games because i now have 1tb ssd for it but that is not enough for how big the games are getting.

The RAM kit i have in my builds has EXPO.

And the case you have selected is to tall can't be higher that the Pop Mini.

[QuantumSingularity]

55 minutes ago, Wild Walker said:

The RX 7900 XT uses to much power for my liking.

I already use a 500gb system drive in my current build and that in enough, the 2tb is for games because i now have 1tb ssd for it but that is not enough for how big the games are getting.

The RAM kit i have in my builds has EXPO.

And the case you have selected is to tall can't be higher that the Pop Mini.

Well yeah, powerful GPUs use power... That's why the 4090 easily drains 600W under load and 900W on transience. You can't make frames w/o power. It's your money after all - if you don't want max performance for that price, no one can say otherwise. Some people like aesthetics more than performance. I'm on the other end of the spectrum - if i have to, i'd nail my motherboard with the CPU and the GPU to the wall in order to squeeze every bit of performance from my budget.

 

[SorryBella]

2 hours ago, QuantumSingularity said:

easily drains 600W under load

???

 

Unless you're talking total computer power, you are smoking the good shit. Also, Netherlands power cost isnt that nightmarishly high OP, 9 cents per kilowatt. Check your local grid kilowatt rate before you call it out, although with the issue of the idle power consumption for 7000 series if you dont game often you would be better off with 4070Ti or 4080. Honestly pick your poison moment for me.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€338.85 @ Megekko) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG500 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€179.00 @ Azerty) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€123.85 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€99.00 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€989.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case: Deepcool CG560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€71.22 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€108.85 @ Azerty) 
Total: €1952.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-30 16:18 CEST+0200

 

 

[QuantumSingularity]

Depends on your luck what GPU you would score, some came out with 600W+ VBIOS-es. Galax, MSI, Asus... All of them had GPUs with over 600W VBIOS-es. One of the Suprim X 4090 i've put in a systems so far came with a 600W intended for Suprim Liquid X. Worked perfectly fine with temps below 75°C and EVGA 1600W PSU.

Unlike the rest of the RTX 4000 series lineup, the 4090 really is a well engineered product. 

[Wild Walker]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€467.80 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€77.56 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€204.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€110.55 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Lexar NM790 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€103.85 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€829.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€94.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Power Supply: NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€118.85 @ Azerty) 
Total: €2006.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-31 19:41 CEST+0200

 

The non wifi motherboard doenst show on pcpartpicker and that one is 10/15 euro cheaper so it will be under €2000,-

And when i use a a different site it says it will cost € 1979,56