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Disabling any automatic oc feature / setting a very strict core frequency help

SooWhat

Hi.

I got an RTX 2060 for repairs. The pc fully crashes when it's hit by a load, but furmark can run no problems. Temperature is not a problem. After some digging, the card is boosting to 1950-1980mhz on it's own, when it's boost clock is rated at 1710mhz.

After many tries, i've found that the sudden boost to 1950+ is the probable cause for the crashing. but the issue is that through MSI afterburner, i've tried to set the core clock -210 lower than the 0 point in afterburner.
But it seems to ignore it and boost back to 1950. I've only had a handful of tries where it didnt try to boost above the limit i set. Then in some time it spikes again and crashes. This usually happens while alt tabbing, swapping games, or changing major settings. I tried to set a voltage curve in msi afterburner, that didnt seem to work either. nvidia debugging mode didnt help. Looking for more suggestions as to how to fix this / how to disable nvidia boost features

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3 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

Hi.

I got an RTX 2060 for repairs. The pc fully crashes when it's hit by a load, but furmark can run no problems. Temperature is not a problem. After some digging, the card is boosting to 1950-1980mhz on it's own, when it's boost clock is rated at 1710mhz.

After many tries, i've found that the sudden boost to 1950+ is the probable cause for the crashing. but the issue is that through MSI afterburner, i've tried to set the core clock -210 lower than the 0 point in afterburner.
But it seems to ignore it and boost back to 1950. I've only had a handful of tries where it didnt try to boost above the limit i set. Then in some time it spikes again and crashes. This usually happens while alt tabbing, swapping games, or changing major settings. I tried to set a voltage curve in msi afterburner, that didnt seem to work either. nvidia debugging mode didnt help. Looking for more suggestions as to how to fix this / how to disable nvidia boost features

Sounds like the boosting pushes your PSU too far, what PSU are you using?  May be an issue there.

 

I don't know how to set a frequency max though, sorry.

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11 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Sounds like the boosting pushes your PSU too far, what PSU are you using?  May be an issue there.

 

I don't know how to set a frequency max though, sorry.

using a 650W psu that has comfortably run 250W cards

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2 hours ago, SooWhat said:

using a 650W psu that has comfortably run 250W cards

Something may be tripping the protections.  As you state, thee is too much voltage possibly.

 

This isn't your card crashing the PC, it's the PSU tripping.

 

I've had this happen before with a 1080ti on a 650w psu, it was the 1080ti voltage module faulty.

 

Just trying to explain a possible issue.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Something may be tripping the protections.  As you state, thee is too much voltage possibly.

 

This isn't your card crashing the PC, it's the PSU tripping.

 

I've had this happen before with a 1080ti on a 650w psu, it was the 1080ti voltage module faulty.

 

Just trying to explain a possible issue.

 

 

Tripping the powersupply would turn the system off though no?

What is currently happening is that the screen goes black and the fans ramp up after it reaches clock speeds way above it's limit, so im trying my best to find something that would put a harder limit on it's clock speeds, as msi afterburner seems to be overriden by the card 😧

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4 hours ago, SooWhat said:

Tripping the powersupply would turn the system off though no?

What is currently happening is that the screen goes black and the fans ramp up after it reaches clock speeds way above it's limit, so im trying my best to find something that would put a harder limit on it's clock speeds, as msi afterburner seems to be overriden by the card 😧

Yes, that is what " The pc fully crashes when it's hit by a load" means.

 

Thank you for clarifying what is happening. 

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1 hour ago, Dedayog said:

Yes, that is what " The pc fully crashes when it's hit by a load" means.

 

Thank you for clarifying what is happening. 

Sounds rather condecending tbh, but that's the least of my problems right now.

I guess i'll keep waiting for someone who can help me with my issue / has a way to somehow magically make it so that the gpu doesnt boost itself to infinity, when it's overriding msi afterburner settings.

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7 minutes ago, SooWhat said:

Sounds rather condecending tbh, but that's the least of my problems right now.

I guess i'll keep waiting for someone who can help me with my issue / has a way to somehow magically make it so that the gpu doesnt boost itself to infinity, when it's overriding msi afterburner settings.

Not condescending.  I wanted to point out that the word choice you used was incorrect as to what was going on, so you know how others are taking your explanntion of events so they can try to fix the correct issue. If quoting you was bad, I apologize.

 

That's all, no harm.  I'll add a smiley next time 🙂

 

Hope you get it fixed.  

 

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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Not condescending.  I wanted to point out that the word choice you used was incorrect as to what was going on, so you know how others are taking your explanntion of events so they can try to fix the correct issue. If quoting you was bad, I apologize.

 

That's all, no harm.  I'll add a smiley next time 🙂

 

Hope you get it fixed.  

 

😚 No hard feelings from my side. Agree that i couldve tried to word it better.

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Okay, i did some more digging (im really sorry that this thread is such a lackluster).

For clarification, it's a KFA2 RTX 2060 WHITE Mini (1-click oc) card.

I found that the VBIOS for this card is currently 90.06.30.00.AD. Now, i cant find this card's intended bios version online, but what i did find is that larger GALAX and KFA2 cards have this vbios, while the smaller (physically same card as mine, but with the GALAX brand) GALAX 2060 WHITE Mini's VBIOS is 90.06.30.00.86.

The mismatch between these two identical cards with different logos makes me think that the previous owner did some bios flashing and that is what is causing my anomalies.
I'd like for someone to check what i found and if i should try flashing it to the 86 version (assuming that the bios was flashed to the AD version) as i don't want to create more unnessecary issues with it. 
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