hdd conflicts with ssd or motherboard issue

[Tores]

Hi everyone. 4 moths ago I had only 1 hdd in my system and I installed a new kingston nvme m2 ssd and installed windows there. 1 or 2 weeks ago my windows files got corrupted (I think it was because when I changed cpu cooler I didnt install ram all the way into a socket) so I had to reinstall windows. I wiped 2 disks, disconnected the hdd, installed windows on ssd and then connected hdd back, everything was fine for like a day or so and then on every pc reboot ssd started to disappear from bios so I could not boot pc at all. The only thing that is helping me to boot my pc every time is when I disconnect the hdd and reboot my PC then ssd is showing up and I can install hdd back and it works almost fine till the next reboot. The reason I said "almost" is because sometimes pc crashes with a message "Your pc ran into a problem" and a sad emoji on a screen, could not find a reason for that behavior, it happens at random time while I'm just browsing web. It could happen like once every 5 days. Every ssd and hdd diagnosting tool saying that every disk in 100% fine, ram memory check is also reporting everything is fine, power supply is new. CPU is also fine. I tried every bios setting there is and updated bios with every driver possible. I'm considering changing motherboard or buying a new hdd or ssd but I dont know which one of then is the cause. I'm thinking that it is because ssd is pci-e 4.0 but my motherboard or cpu only supports pci-e 3.0. But I could not find how to change this in bios

Pc configuration
Mother board - Asus Prime B460M-K
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600
RAM - Kingston DDR4 32GB (2x16gb) 3200Mhz
GPU - Asus TUF GeForce RTX 3080

Power Supply - CHIEFTEC Proton 1000W

HDD - Toshiba P300 1TB 64MB 7200RPM 3.5"

SSD - Kingston NV2 3D NAND 1TB M.2
 

[Tores]

Nothing seems to overheat either 

[Tores]

PC literally just crashed 2 times in a row and rebooted after I posted this...

[Ottoman420]

Have you reinstalled windows?

 

Leave the bios for Pcie 3/4 the hardware handles that without help just like when you plug usb 3.0 hardware into a usb 2.0 port it will work but work at the usb 2.0 speeds.

[Tores]

I little update, I removed HDD, pc booted fine but crashed after few minutes, so it is not hdd problem, its either ssd or motherboard

[porina]

28 minutes ago, Tores said:

I little update, I removed HDD, pc booted fine but crashed after few minutes, so it is not hdd problem, its either ssd or motherboard

First gen Ryzen and 3200 ram could be questionable. Try lower ram speed and see if the problem goes away.

 

Edit: I see that a ram test was tried already, what test? I'd still try reducing ram speed absent other better ideas.

[Tores]

32 minutes ago, porina said:

First gen Ryzen and 3200 ram could be questionable. Try lower ram speed and see if the problem goes away.

 

Edit: I see that a ram test was tried already, what test? I'd still try reducing ram speed absent other better ideas.

Then one in bios. Maybe you are right, i just enabled xmp in bios after first windows reinstall

 

[Tores]

2 hours ago, porina said:

First gen Ryzen and 3200 ram could be questionable. Try lower ram speed and see if the problem goes away.

 

Edit: I see that a ram test was tried already, what test? I'd still try reducing ram speed absent other better ideas.

Damn you were right, just spot on. Never thought ram speed would mess up a pc like this. Thank you!

[porina]

3 minutes ago, Tores said:

Damn you were right, just spot on. Never thought ram speed would mess up a pc like this. Thank you!

The first gen Ryzen CPUs didn't have a great memory controller, and struggled to run at what were then higher speeds. If you want to spend time on it, you could try to see if you can find a setting between whatever it is running now and 3200 to see if you can get a bit more out of it, otherwise if it works ok for you just leave it alone.