Need some cpu picking advice

[Gr00vyGrapes]

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Country: UK

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Hi I’m currently looking at building my first pc (I’ve owned 2 pc’s before including my current one but this’ll be my first build) and I whilst I’m looking forward to it I’m a little worried if I’m honest cus whilst I know at least a little bit when it comes to computers I don’t know everything. With that said I was initially wanting to get a Ryzen 9 7950x3d for gaming and some video editing on the side and the power draw for it was certainly appealing when compared to the i9 13900k especially since I live in the UK but I only recently just heard about the rare but serious issues concerning the x3d CPU’s and am5 mb’s. So my questions are:

1. Should I worry about this if I just run the cpu stock?

2. If so is it easy enough to undervolt the 13900k to reduce the overall power draw?

P.S. I apologise in advance if I sound ignorant at all in my questions.

[QuantumSingularity]

1 hour ago, Gr00vyGrapes said:

Budget (including currency): 

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Hi I’m currently looking at building my first pc (I’ve owned 2 pc’s before including my current one but this’ll be my first build) and I whilst I’m looking forward to it I’m a little worried if I’m honest cus whilst I know at least a little bit when it comes to computers I don’t know everything. With that said I was initially wanting to get a Ryzen 9 7950x3d for gaming and some video editing on the side and the power draw for it was certainly appealing when compared to the i9 13900k especially since I live in the UK but I only recently just heard about the rare but serious issues concerning the x3d CPU’s and am5 mb’s. So my questions are:

1. Should I worry about this if I just run the cpu stock?

2. If so is it easy enough to undervolt the 13900k to reduce the overall power draw?

P.S. I apologise in advance if I sound ignorant at all in my questions.

The issue is with Asus mobos, so if you stay away from those you will be good. Actually you need to stay away from any new Asus product, since their QC lately seems to have dropped to an all-time low. 

As for 13900k - it's not only the power draw, it's also the MASSIVE heat generation that you have to deal with. 560mm AIOs have hard time cooling that furnace. If you are going for that, you better have some seriously good motherboard as well, otherwise if you gonna restrict it to draw less power you are miles better with a 7950X. 

As for the rig, if editing and production will take a big slice of your time and/or will get you paid, go for the 7950X with X670 chipset. If however you are mostly gonna game on it and occasionally use the PC to edit some light project, maybe some gameplay footage, light photoshop... stuff that won't get you paid, get the 7800X3D + B650 chipset.

Under no circumstances get the 7900X3D. Either the 7900X or the 7800X3D, but not the 7950X3D.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

7950x for both

The x3d is outright slower in workloads that dont use the extra cache not to mention the cache ccd is clocked lower and only overclockable on 300£+ boards that have external clockgen and also issues with having the cache chip actually being assigned to the workload that benifits from extra cache cause windows scheduler sees the cache ccd as slower cores cause lower clockspeed afaik

 

13900k is a furnace draws a shitload of power and has to be run at 100c to get best performance, every single method of cooling will struggle due to power density

 

As for the vsoc murdering cpus should be fine as long as you dont go much over 1.3v vsoc so dont worry about it for xmp itll just auto set at whatever volt it needs

 

 

as for mobo choice any ~200£ b650(e) will do, if you wanna venture into the 300£+ mobos then id reccomend the b650e aorus master/taichi and x670e-a/f, very beefy i/o and async eclk so if you go ahead with the 7950x3d or you buy an x3d cpu in the future you can overclock via eclk

[SorryBella]

1 hour ago, Gr00vyGrapes said:

Ryzen 9 7950x3d for gaming and some video editing

Id just go for the non X version, or go for 7800X3D if it is super casual and go all in on performance per watt in gaming. They still holds up in productivity to not make it a burden, but they're definitely handily beaten on it by 13700.

 

[Gr00vyGrapes]

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Under no circumstances get the 7900X3D. Either the 7900X or the 7800X3D, but not the 7950X3D.

Do you mean under no circumstances get the 7950X3D or the 7900X3D?

[brob]

If you want a pure gaming system the 7800X3D would be the optimal choice. However, Intel dominates content creation. 

 

Don't be mislead by power and thermal red herrings. It's true that the i9-13900K can draw an excessive amount of power. But simply running within Intel stock power limits significantly reduces power consumption and heat output. That said, Intel is still a power hog compared to AMD.

 

If content creation and productivity performance are important consider the i7-13700(K)(F). Otherwise stick with the 7800X3D.

[Gr00vyGrapes]

Thanks to everyone for the advice, I've elected to go for the 7950x as I found out that even if I reduce the power limit on it I can still get roughly the same performance as the 3D version if not slightly better but again thank you for the suggestions.