Laptop recommendations

[Lawin]

I have a £1200 ($1500) budget for a laptop and wanted to see what the best laptop I could get with this money.

 

I'm looking for something like an RTX 3060 or over and a good cpu such as i7-12700h. I'm from the United Kingdom, if anyone could link me any laptops that would be incredibly appreciated. Thank you. 

[AI_Must_Di3]

Well, we could but you have to tell us what its use will be before we can tell you anything.

[Guest]

in my opinion this laptop is one of the best overall

[Lawin]

On 7/7/2023 at 6:03 AM, AI_Must_Di3 said:

Well, we could but you have to tell us what its use will be before we can tell you anything.

Gaming and work

[AI_Must_Di3]

On 7/8/2023 at 2:37 AM, Lawin said:

Gaming and work

Well, in that case build a desktop. Gaming on a laptop is about as lame a gaming experience as your ever gonna get, unless you mean browser games from 2006. Work? Well, if your doing anything worth doing you will need the power of a proper cpu at full speed and not 1.8ghz if your lucky.

[Roasted_Hobnail]

Now, that we listened to a person who obviously never had a proper laptop and have never seen a single review of any modern laptop, let me ask you a couple of questions, @Lawin.

1) What games do you usually play? Are they single-player games mostly? Or e-sports, maybe?
2) What kind of work you're doing? Something heavy like 3D modeling or programming? Or simple document writing?
3) Why do you think you need a laptop? Are you space-constrained? Do you move a lot?

[AI_Must_Di3]

1 hour ago, Roasted_Hobnail said:

Now, that we listened to a person who obviously never had a proper laptop and have never seen a single review of any modern laptop, let me ask you a couple of questions, @Lawin.

1) What games do you usually play? Are they single-player games mostly? Or e-sports, maybe?
2) What kind of work you're doing? Something heavy like 3D modeling or programming? Or simple document writing?
3) Why do you think you need a laptop? Are you space-constrained? Do you move a lot?

LMBO, you gotta be kiddin me, right?!? My answer comes from owning a few "Proper" laptops and the problems that ALWAYS come with them. Look, theyre great for light typing, looking at documents, sending stuff, email etc... but the minute they get a load put on them they thermal throttle themselves to the basement, everything lags out while your battery drains so fast you can pretty much predict the crash. Of course, theres always the smart ass that says but, but, but, you can put a egpu on it, get cooling tables and not load up the motherboard with ram and drives etc... to make air space or add another fan, while using throttlestop etc.... yada,yada,yada. This is all stupid nonsense, build a LAN box and do it properly if you need mobility. All that money spent on all that crap could have been spent on a proper build in the first place and not a pile of band aids and i hope it'll works. I cannot in good conscience recommend a laptop for gaming, especially aaa, new titles with any graphics clarity.

[Roasted_Hobnail]

19 minutes ago, AI_Must_Di3 said:

LMBO, you gotta be kiddin me, right?!? My answer comes from owning a few "Proper" laptops and the problems that ALWAYS come with them. Look, theyre great for light typing, looking at documents, sending stuff, email etc... but the minute they get a load put on them they thermal throttle themselves to the basement, everything lags out while your battery drains so fast you can pretty much predict the crash. Of course, theres always the smart ass that says but, but, but, you can put a egpu on it, get cooling tables and not load up the motherboard with ram and drives etc... to make air space or add another fan, while using throttlestop etc.... yada,yada,yada. This is all stupid nonsense, build a LAN box and do it properly if you need mobility. All that money spent on all that crap could have been spent on a proper build in the first place and not a pile of band aids and i hope it'll works. I cannot in good conscience recommend a laptop for gaming, especially aaa, new titles with any graphics clarity.

Every single line of what you just said just confirms that you've never used a proper laptop.

Try watching at least a couple of reviews from channels like Jarrod's Tech or Hardware Unboxed. Yes, I agree that laptops are less powerful than their desktop counterparts, but saying that they immediately throttle is an overstatement at least, and a blatant lie at worst. Most modern laptops can sustain from 150 to 200 watts of sustained CPU+GPU load, which is PLENTY for a very decent gaming or content creation session. Not to mention, modern HX Intel processors are almost on-par with their desktop counterparts.

Here's proof of proper performance levels from laptops. And while yes, I agree that while they cost as much as an Empire State Building, they do provide extremely capable portable All-In-One gaming and work machines. And before you even start typing something about their battery life - almost every single laptop that costs more than 1000$ provides at least 5-6 hours of office work. And even while on battery, you can count on at least a couple hours of extensive CPU+iGPU load. And you can do a lot with modern iGPUs.

Your comments on the topic are uneducated at least and malicious at worst. I understand that you LIKE desktop computers more and I agree that they have their place, but blatantly lying about the state of portable computing - is not the way to persuade a person into buying one. Hope we understand each other.

[AI_Must_Di3]

Guy, i dont need to watch anything on laptops, which obviously thats all youve been doing. Ive lived it for years. I havent owned a Lagtop since 2015 when i was more than sick of fighting with them, which is what happens to all people. Now, obviously, i was being facetious and trying to prove a point, which most people will see and understand and get what im saying.....the overall gist is they are not proper for anything but light duty in a mobile form, period. 5-6 hours of OFFICE WORK, not 200 watts of ultra settings, AAA 2023 gaming. I dont know about you, but the last thing i want to do is spend 2000 on a Lagtop, sit down, plug it into the wall...cause lets be honest about this at least you have to do that to get any oomph out of it for any extended period of time, to  finally load a game and have to turn all the settings down to low, be greeted with warnings, hints and suggestions while the cpu throttles to 1.8 - 2.2 ghz. I dont care what they do in a perfect setting, plugged into the wall in a benchmark app for 5 mins total. I dont think the OP is asking cause he wants to have a slideshow of a game or 2004 graphics settings. You wanna benchmark it, turn on metro exodus, ultra settings, and actually try to play it for 2 hours on a 1000$ lagtop. Good luck to ya!

[Roasted_Hobnail]

9 minutes ago, AI_Must_Di3 said:

Guy, i dont need to watch anything on laptops, which obviously thats all youve been doing. Ive lived it for years. I havent owned a Lagtop since 2015 when i was more than sick of fighting with them, which is what happens to all people. Now, obviously, i was being facetious and trying to prove a point, which most people will see and understand and get what im saying.....the overall gist is they are not proper for anything but light duty in a mobile form, period. 5-6 hours of OFFICE WORK, not 200 watts of ultra settings, AAA 2023 gaming. I dont know about you, but the last thing i want to do is spend 2000 on a Lagtop, sit down, plug it into the wall...cause lets be honest about this at least you have to do that to get any oomph out of it for any extended period of time, to  finally load a game and have to turn all the settings down to low, be greeted with warnings, hints and suggestions while the cpu throttles to 1.8 - 2.2 ghz. I dont care what they do in a perfect setting, plugged into the wall in a benchmark app for 5 mins total. I dont think the OP is asking cause he wants to have a slideshow of a game or 2004 graphics settings. You wanna benchmark it, turn on metro exodus, ultra settings, and actually try to play it for 2 hours on a 1000$ lagtop. Good luck to ya!

So, you're saying that you had a laptop 8 years ago and you know how they work now. That definitely makes you qualified to help a person who's looking for a laptop, yes.

In all seriousness, nobody's using laptops for gaming unplugged. If you did that, I'm sorry, you misunderstood how things work. By the way, even with a charger, even the biggest "desktop replacement" laptop is more portable than a "LAN machine" with a keyboard, monitor, and mouse.

I literally am currently sitting in front of the laptop, not even the most modern one, not even the most powerful one and I'm not getting 1.8-2 GHz neither in games nor in content creation. And I'm talking about an old 14nm 6-core i7 8750h in a thin Razer Blade 15 Advanced. What I'm meaning to say is that you're completely out of touch and have no knowledge at all about laptops. Which makes you a salty PC guy, sorry. I can confirm any time that you don't need to use the lowest settings or any of the things you came up with - modern laptops can easily run games at high and ultra settings with very respectable framerates. Not only I can confirm this, but also almost every person who at least tried to use one for more than 1.5 seconds.


My laptop currently is around 4 years old, and costs around 1000$ on a used market. And I even (lucky you!) have a copy of Metro Exodus. Shall I install it, and run a benchmark for you? I will even loop it for an hour or two. If you're not convinced by literally dozens of user-uploaded videos on YouTube:

 

[Roasted_Hobnail]

The problem is - I can give you as many proofs and facts as there are in the universe. In the meantime, you haven't provided any, other than stating that almost a decade ago your laptop wasn't as fast as you wanted it to be. In addition to the fact, that you seemed to misuse it horribly. 

Anyway, you're missing the point. A person came here for advice about a laptop, which makes me think that he has a reason to buy a laptop. And I asked him a question about why he might need one. While you not only lied but also strayed off the topic with absolutely out-of-touch whiny comments that have absolutely nothing in common with reality.

[Qyygle]

On 7/9/2023 at 11:13 AM, Roasted_Hobnail said:

The problem is - I can give you as many proofs and facts as there are in the universe. In the meantime, you haven't provided any, other than stating that almost a decade ago your laptop wasn't as fast as you wanted it to be. In addition to the fact, that you seemed to misuse it horribly. 

Anyway, you're missing the point. A person came here for advice about a laptop, which makes me think that he has a reason to buy a laptop. And I asked him a question about why he might need one. While you not only lied but also strayed off the topic with absolutely out-of-touch whiny comments that have absolutely nothing in common with reality.

The guy's obviously out of it. Just don't bother responding to him.

 

As for OP, the legion line by Lenovo is a pretty strong go to. MSI can offer some options at your price point but I feel the Lenovo's still have them beat in build quality.

ASUS has some strong contenders too in the G15 line. If you're fine with the older 30XX gen GPUs you can likely find some good deals on those now.

 

Anything with a XX60 series you will probably be paired with adequate CPU power, it's XX50 or lower that usually see an i5 or ryzen5 pairing.

Pricing will depend highly on what stores have in the UK though. I'd recommend taking a browse through for machines at your price point, then searching them on notebookcheck for detailed breakdown.

[Lawin]

@Roasted_Hobnail @Qyygle Is the MSI Pulse 15 B13V i7-13700h RTX 4060 a good laptop to buy? I've looked everywhere and only found that laptop which has good value for the money.

[Qyygle]

It should be ok, though it's more a budget side on MSI's lineup. I can't find any reviews aside from this:

MSI Pulse 15 (B13V) review - climbing up through the ranks: Temperatures and comfort, Battery Life | LaptopMedia.com

You're limited in storage slots (1 m2 slot) though RAM is upgradable with both slots replacable.

 

If this is your primary machine, you might need some external drives or a replacement drive larger than whatever it comes with. It also apparently has a less capable cooling setup than the Vector or whatever MSI calls their line now, with 4 heatpipes shared CPU/GPU, though you do get a MUX switch.

No thunderbolt ports though, so take that how you will, if you need thunderbolt docking or use.