Upgrade for gaming

[Rhodes 3]

Budget (including currency): < 1000€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Cyberpunk 2077, Starfield, etc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

Current Specs:

   Motherboard: HP Edoras

   CPU: i5-9400F (2,9GHz)

   GPU: RTX 2060

   RAM: 2x 16GB ddr4 2400MHz

   Display: 1x 1080p 60Hz

 

I want to upgrade my GPU and/or CPU for gaming, specifically so I will be able to run Cyberpunk 2077 with RT on with the updated system requirements for the upcoming patch and DLC, but I am not quite sure what I should get, especially when it comes to the GPU. I was thinking maybe a 3060, 3060 Ti or 4060 Ti but would like some advice.

In regards to the CPU I was looking at the i7-9700 but would like some advice here as well.

 

I would like to do do this for less than 1000€ but I will probably also sell the old parts to maybe increase that budget a little (also, what is a good place to sell those old parts).

[PDifolco]

12 minutes ago, Rhodes 3 said:

Budget (including currency): < 1000€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Cyberpunk 2077, Starfield, etc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

Current Specs:

   Motherboard: HP Edoras

   CPU: i5-9400F (2,9GHz)

   GPU: RTX 2060

   RAM: 2x 16GB ddr4 2400MHz

   Display: 1x 1080p 60Hz

 

I want to upgrade my GPU and/or CPU for gaming, specifically so I will be able to run Cyberpunk 2077 with RT on with the updated system requirements for the upcoming patch and DLC, but I am not quite sure what I should get, especially when it comes to the GPU. I was thinking maybe a 3060, 3060 Ti or 4060 Ti but would like some advice.

In regards to the CPU I was looking at the i7-9700 but would like some advice here as well.

 

I would like to do do this for less than 1000€ but I will probably also sell the old parts to maybe increase that budget a little (also, what is a good place to sell those old parts).

Forget about old Intel 9th gen...at that price point a full AMD rig makes more sense, the 2060 won't ever cut it with RT 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€134.90 @ ARLT) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€157.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€68.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€42.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€339.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Zalman i3 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €954.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-06 15:49 CEST+0200

 

[tkitch]

unless you get a deal on an i9 9900, and I mean a *deal*

Don't waste your time on 9th gen.  Upgrade to a new box.  Going to the i7, you'd add 2 cores, and still no HT, so you'd be very limited still.

 

A 12th gen i5 would stop that 9th gen i7 into the dirt for performance.  

 

I'd say:
12th or 13th gen i5 12400 / 13400 
32GB DDR4 / 5 (depending)
And unless you specifically use NVidia tech like CUDA or AI Cores?  Buy an AMD Card, and get better framerates.

[SorryBella]

2 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Forget about old Intel 9th gen...at that price point a full AMD rig makes more sense, the 2060 won't ever cut it with RT 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€134.90 @ ARLT) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€157.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€68.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€42.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€339.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Zalman i3 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €954.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-06 15:49 CEST+0200

 

If OP isn't caring about the system they can definitely afford an RT build if they insist. 500-600 euros, maybe a neck more if OP does their time to clean up the system and replace the CPU thermal paste, jazz it up?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€232.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€30.74 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€144.81 @ Computeruniverse) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€130.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€84.89 @ Alternate) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card  (€846.99 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.20 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic G12 GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€88.94 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€3.76 @ Aquatuning) 
Total: €1633.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-06 18:35 CEST+0200

[The Hope]

This build is $993.86 and it will give you very high performance (in any game or workload).

 

[The Hope]

18 hours ago, SorryBella said:

Total: €1633.21

 

It's a little bit above his buget

 

21 hours ago, Rhodes 3 said:

Budget (including currency): < 1000€

 

 

[SorryBella]

29 minutes ago, The Hope said:

It's a little bit above his buget

18 hours ago, SorryBella said:

If OP isn't caring about the system they can definitely afford an RT build if they insist. 500-600 euros, maybe a neck more if OP does their time to clean up the system and replace the CPU thermal paste, jazz it up?

Tl;dr: if OP dont mind to sell the PC, do this build instead.

[Why_Me]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€152.53 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: *ENDORFY Fera 5 CPU Cooler  (€29.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€107.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€63.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€42.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card  (€329.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.20 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: *SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€107.89 @ Caseking) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€4.45 @ Aquatuning) 
Total: €907.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-07 13:34 CEST+0200

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Tqqrxr/lenovo-g24-20-238-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-66cfgcc1us  

Lenovo G24-20 23.8" 1920x1080 165Hz Monitor €184.50

[Rhodes 3]

On 7/6/2023 at 3:51 PM, PDifolco said:

Forget about old Intel 9th gen...at that price point a full AMD rig makes more sense, the 2060 won't ever cut it with RT 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€134.90 @ ARLT) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€157.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€68.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€42.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€339.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Zalman i3 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €954.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-06 15:49 CEST+0200

 

This one looks pretty promising to me, though granted I am no professional when it comes to hardware.

But I had one question about the actual building of the PC because I've never built one before:

Can I use the SSD from my old PC to build this one? Because the one I have right now has the exact same SSD as is specified in this parts list and it already has Windows installed on it so it would be really cool if I could just plug that one in when building the new rig.

Also, I'm gonna need a new Windows license, right? How exactly does that work (as in how do I activate a Windows license on a new PC)?

[PDifolco]

2 hours ago, Rhodes 3 said:

This one looks pretty promising to me, though granted I am no professional when it comes to hardware.

But I had one question about the actual building of the PC because I've never built one before:

Can I use the SSD from my old PC to build this one? Because the one I have right now has the exact same SSD as is specified in this parts list and it already has Windows installed on it so it would be really cool if I could just plug that one in when building the new rig.

Also, I'm gonna need a new Windows license, right? How exactly does that work (as in how do I activate a Windows license on a new PC)?

You can install any "old" SSD/HDD on a new rig, and keep its Windows licence  

[Rhodes 3]

4 hours ago, PDifolco said:

You can install any "old" SSD/HDD on a new rig, and keep its Windows licence  

Awesome, thanks!

[Rhodes 3]

On 7/6/2023 at 3:51 PM, PDifolco said:

Forget about old Intel 9th gen...at that price point a full AMD rig makes more sense, the 2060 won't ever cut it with RT 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€134.90 @ ARLT) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€36.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€157.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€68.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€42.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€339.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Zalman i3 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€63.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €954.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-06 15:49 CEST+0200

 

The case that is specified here doesn't seem to be in stock, can you recommend a good alternative?

[PDifolco]

2 minutes ago, Rhodes 3 said:

The case that is specified here doesn't seem to be in stock, can you recommend a good alternative?

Antec NX410 is ok, looks nice, good airflow and included fans

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZMC48d/antec-nx410-atx-mid-tower-case-0-761345-81041-8

[Rhodes 3]

I am writing this on my new PC. Thank you for the parts list!