Touch ID vs Windows Hello

[K2theC]

Hey can someone explain why is this disparity there...

I just bought a Macbook and realized that TouchID cannot be used to login after a shutdown, whereas I'm a 20+ year Windows user and have never had this problem in Windows (Windows Hello).

Further, my company has provided me a Chromebook to work on (I want to kill the IT person who suggested this to leadership) and I see Mac like behavior there as well.

Am I wrong in thinking Apple and Chromebooks are dumb to do this, or is Windows less secure because of this (Apple spokesperson would say this sort of stuff). Or is the situation where I'm just not expected by Apple and Google to ever shutdown their OSes and just keep putting devices to sleep?

Thanks for the replies.

[Bombastinator]

19 minutes ago, K2theC said:

Hey can someone explain why is this disparity there...

I just bought a Macbook and realized that TouchID cannot be used to login after a shutdown, whereas I'm a 20+ year Windows user and have never had this problem in Windows (Windows Hello).

Further, my company has provided me a Chromebook to work on (I want to kill the IT person who suggested this to leadership) and I see Mac like behavior there as well.

Am I wrong in thinking Apple and Chromebooks are dumb to do this, or is Windows less secure because of this (Apple spokesperson would say this sort of stuff). Or is the situation where I'm just not expected by Apple and Google to ever shutdown their OSes and just keep putting devices to sleep?

Thanks for the replies.

Ooh I know that one mostly because iOS explains it with a message.  You’ve got to activate Touch ID with a more secure thing like a PIN code after every boot.  When I reboot my iPhone the first access always requires a PIN code before Face ID will function.  Face ID is easier to game than a PIN code.  It was also recently increased to six digits from 5.

[K2theC]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

Ooh I know that one mostly because iOS explains it with a message.  You’ve got to activate Touch ID with a more secure thing like a PIN code after every boot.  When I reboot my iPhone the first access always requires a PIN code before Face ID will function.  Face ID is easier to game than a PIN code.  It was also recently increased to six digits from 5.

So am I to believe a pin/password is more secure than fingerprint? Seems like a step back, and then it means windows compromises on security.

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, K2theC said:

So am I to believe a pin/password is more secure than fingerprint? Seems like a step back, and then it means windows compromises on security.

Fingerprints have massive security problems.  Partially because one leaves them everywhere and they are easy to steal, but one of the places one tends to leave them is on the actual detection surface.  The result is one can often defeat finger print security with nothing but a spray bottle and a rubber glove.  Mythbusters actually did a thing on it.  And mythbusters isn’t new.  The bar style ones (which afaik only android phones use) are a bit better but not massively.  Face ID is arguably worse.  Though the iR camera stuff makes it a bit better so simply taking a photo of someone and making a mask is not enough.  Most of the time anyway.  Pins aren’t great but they’re better than the other two.