My First Build

[SK7L1NE]

Budget (including currency): 1150€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  All types of games (mostly FPS games)

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/9nCxXy

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (€229.00 @ ARLT)

 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK (€44.63 @ Galaxus) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M DS3H AC (€92.90 @ Alza) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16  (€65.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME (€49.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6800 16 GB (€506.90 @ Alza) 

 

Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (€94.90 @ Alza) 

Power Supply: Corsair CV650 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX (€69.90 @ Alza) 

 

Total: €1154.12

 

I can go a bit over budget (max.1170€) and I'm unsure if I chose the right PC-parts for my budget. I appreciate the help!

[Leonard Kohl]

Do u really need 32 gigs ram? 16 should be ok

And you definitely do not need a 6800. A 3060 would be better for your budget

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/kohlleon10/saved/#view=fvtNpg should be better for u

Edited May 21, 2023 by Leonard Kohl
Forgot link

[bezza...]

6 minutes ago, Leonard Kohl said:

Do u really need 32 gigs ram? 16 should be ok

And you definitely do not need a 6800. A 3060 would be better for your budget

hi. umm 32 gigs is fine at the moment as modorn games are starting to use it. 2 the 6800 is a far better card then the 3060 in every way so no point getting a worse gpu

 

i would try and go am5 fr the pc and get the 7600 instead of the 5800x as it is better fr gaming

Edited May 21, 2023 by bezza...

[SK7L1NE]

5 minutes ago, Leonard Kohl said:

Do u really need 32 gigs ram? 16 should be ok

And you definitely do not need a 6800. A 3060 would be better for your budget

I thought 32 GBs would be smarter because games are lately needing more and more ram. 3060 is good idea but 6800 has better performance and more VRam, which i thought would be better, but i'm not sure

[SK7L1NE]

1 minute ago, bezza... said:

hi. umm 32 gigs is fine at the moment as modorn games are starting to use it. 2 the 6800 is a far better card then the 3060 in every way so no point getting a worse gpu

 

i would try and go am5 fr the pc and get the 7600 instead of the 5800x as it is better fr gaming

but the 7600 is more expensive + needs a more expensive motherboard. So i will need to downgrade my GPU propably. Is it worth it?

[bezza...]

Just now, SK7L1NE said:

but the 7600 is more expensive + needs a more expensive motherboard. So i will need to downgrade my GPU propably. Is it worth it?

if its to much stay with how you are. no point downgrading the gpu

[bezza...]

3 minutes ago, SK7L1NE said:

but the 7600 is more expensive + needs a more expensive motherboard. So i will need to downgrade my GPU propably. Is it worth it?

still with in budget

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4MdkFg

[SK7L1NE]

2 minutes ago, bezza... said:

if its to much stay with how you are. no point downgrading the gpu

i just tried looking on PCPartPicker, but it says that my RAM isn't compatible with it. Do you know why?

[SK7L1NE]

1 minute ago, bezza... said:

still with in budget

 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/4MdkFg

It says it costs 1300€ for me. I think you didn't change the region to germany

[bezza...]

1 minute ago, SK7L1NE said:

i just tried looking on PCPartPicker, but it says that my RAM isn't compatible with it. Do you know why?

are you using ddr4 ram? am5 only supports ddr5

[bezza...]

Just now, SK7L1NE said:

It says it costs 1300€ for me. I think you didn't change the region to germany

germany fr me

[SK7L1NE]

2 minutes ago, bezza... said:

germany fr me

Weird

[SK7L1NE]

4 minutes ago, bezza... said:

are you using ddr4 ram? am5 only supports ddr5

Ah yes that's the problem

[SorryBella]

35 minutes ago, SK7L1NE said:

I can go a bit over budget (max.1700€)

Dont spend money youre not fully willing to relinquish. The delta of performance between 1200 euro build to 1700 build is MASSIVE.

 

Also what is your resolution and refresh rate budget?

[SK7L1NE]

2 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Dont spend money youre not fully willing to relinquish. The delta of performance between 1200 euro build to 1700 build is MASSIVE.

 

Also what is your resolution and refresh rate budget?

oh sorry i just realised I wanted to say 1170€ max not 1700€ sorry. I planned on getting a 1080p 144hz+ Monitor

[SK7L1NE]

22 minutes ago, bezza... said:

germany fr me

Sorry i meant that i can go 1170€ max not 1700€ sorry that might've been the reason for the misunderstanding 

[SorryBella]

1 minute ago, SK7L1NE said:

oh sorry i just realised I wanted to say 1170€ max not 1700€ sorry. I planned on getting a 1080p 144hz+ Monitor

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€299.00 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: ENDORFY Fera 5 CPU Cooler  (€29.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B450-PLUS II ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€94.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€101.49 @ Computeruniverse) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€380.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€85.90 @ Alza) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€5.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1133.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-21 16:34 CEST+0200

 

Going at 1080p youll want a pretty strong CPU with 6 performance core and 12 performance threads and highest Instruction Per Clock you can get off the bat, without completely flunking on the GPU. And 5800X3D is pretty damn good one at that right now for the price.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€314.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: ENDORFY Fera 5 CPU Cooler  (€29.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€115.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€101.49 @ Computeruniverse) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€380.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€85.90 @ Alza) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€5.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1170.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-21 16:37 CEST+0200

 

If youre curious of the Intel route, but youre edging to the red with this one. The question becomes would you spend 35 euros just for 10% gain?

 

[SK7L1NE]

4 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€299.00 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: ENDORFY Fera 5 CPU Cooler  (€29.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B450-PLUS II ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€94.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€101.49 @ Computeruniverse) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€380.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€85.90 @ Alza) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€5.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1133.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-21 16:34 CEST+0200

 

Going at 1080p youll want a pretty strong CPU with 6 performance core and 12 performance threads and highest Instruction Per Clock you can get off the bat, without completely flunking on the GPU. And 5800X3D is pretty damn good one at that right now for the price.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€314.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: ENDORFY Fera 5 CPU Cooler  (€29.90 @ Alza) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€115.90 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€65.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€101.49 @ Computeruniverse) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  (€380.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte UD750GM 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€85.90 @ Alza) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€5.14 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1170.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-21 16:37 CEST+0200

 

If youre curious of the Intel route, but youre edging to the red with this one. The question becomes would you spend 35 euros just for 10% gain?

 

is it possible to downgrade the cpu for a better gpu or will that lead to a higher bottleneck? Because i will propably only game on it and a cpu that good might not be necessary for that

[SorryBella]

Just now, SK7L1NE said:

is it possible to downgrade the cpu for a better gpu or will that lead to a higher bottleneck?

Its possible-ish but honestly its not worth it because at 1080p youre gonna be CPU bounded in most titles even if it isnt super graphically intensive, and this is exacerbated in higher framerate and in places where consistent frame pacing is a must like in an action titles or games with unforgiving hit timing like rythm games.

[SK7L1NE]

4 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Its possible-ish but honestly its not worth it because at 1080p youre gonna be CPU bounded in most titles even if it isnt super graphically intensive, and this is exacerbated in higher framerate and in places where consistent frame pacing is a must like in an action titles or games with unforgiving hit timing like rythm games.

i understand, but i thought of getting a 1440p Monitor next Year or so and use use two monitors. That's why i asked. 

[SorryBella]

1 minute ago, SK7L1NE said:

i understand, but i thought of upgrading to a 1440p Monitor next Year or so. That's why i asked

Then you can take said time to replace the GPU, but for 1440p the 6700XT is still pretty capable. I ran this thing on 32:9 1080p eyefinity setup which has more pixel than standard 1440p and it still pulls in sim racing titles pretty well.

[SK7L1NE]

8 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Then you can take said time to replace the GPU, but for 1440p the 6700XT is still pretty capable. I ran this thing on 32:9 1080p eyefinity setup which has more pixel than standard 1440p and it still pulls in sim racing titles pretty well.

Is the 6700 XT better than the 3060 Ti? Does DLSS matter? Because it costs about the same as the 6700 XT. Do you maybe choose it because of the higher amount of VRAM?

[SorryBella]

Just now, SK7L1NE said:

Is the 6700 XT better than the 3060 Ti? Does DLSS matter?

In sub 1440p theyre honestly even more detrimental to fidelity so no, any temporal sampling algorithm like DLSS and FSR wouldnt do you a lot of favor. And in games that doesnt have it well youre SOL. And yeah, they are more like 3060Ti and 3070 inbetweens in performance but theyre actually going to clear the 12GB vram minimum of future games.

[SK7L1NE]

12 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

In sub 1440p theyre honestly even more detrimental to fidelity so no, any temporal sampling algorithm like DLSS and FSR wouldnt do you a lot of favor. And in games that doesnt have it well youre SOL. And yeah, they are more like 3060Ti and 3070 inbetweens in performance but theyre actually going to clear the 12GB vram minimum of future games.

how about this? I can go 1090€ if this is good, it's not a problem tbh

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/jCYxXy

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core  (€243.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 ZERO DARK (€44.63 @ Galaxus) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte B660M DS3H DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700  (€109.90 @ Alza)

 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16  (€65.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME (€52.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€506.90 @ Alza) 

Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower  (€94.90 @ Alza) 

Power Supply: Corsair CV650 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX (€69.90 @ Alza) 

 

Total: €1189.11
 

[SorryBella]

6 minutes ago, SK7L1NE said:

Intel Core i5-13500

Not the same CPU. 13500 is an Alder Lake refresh which is a stepped down 12600K which means itll perform similarly but hotter. If 12600K is cheaper, take that one.

 

Also while many have system on 650W with RX6800XT, i still think 750W is more comfortable power supply target to buy if available.