The Zen of Huayra-Tata II (Ryzen 7800X-3D/ Radeon RX 7900-XTX)

[WallacEngineering]

UPDATE JULY 15 2023:

 

BUILD NOW FINALIZED - THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER UPDATES TO THE OP.

 

REVISED OP:

 

I built the first Zen of Huayra-Tata based of the Ryzen 1700 and now it is finally time to build a new system. I literally JUST finished the system last night (05-13-2023) and Im still in the middle of downloading Applications, Games, and Benchmarking.

 

GOAL/USE CASE:

 

I MOSTLY game at high resolution and I really like my chosen resolution and do not ever plan to go any higher. This Resolution is 3440x1440p (2K UltraWide) and I want a perfectly smooth and responsive gaming experience with an average of 100+FPS with 1% lows above 75 FPS at Native Resolution with High Settings in higher-demand games, without using FSR or other artificial ways of enhancing FPS.

 

Currently, the system is capable of much more than this. It actually runs 120-140 FPS on average with 1% lows above 100 FPS, all while on ULTRA Settings at Native Resolution. This overkill graphical horsepower will be great to stay "ahead of the curve" as new games get released over the next 5-10 years. I don't plan on upgrading again anytime soon, I hope to skip the rest of the AM5 Platform and upgrade straight to AM6 next.

 

I also do some light video editing and Multi-Tasking applications and I did consider a Ryzen 7900 CPU but decided the gaming performance was more important.

 

THEME/LORE:

 

The same as last time - Huayra Tata is the South-American God of wind, and also the inspiration for the Pagani Huayra SuperCar.

 

The name fits because of the theme of the build - Ultimate Air Cooled Zen-Based Gaming PC. The word "Zen" is also known to be a chilled, relaxed state.

 

And so, the direct slang translation to the name of this build is:

 

"The South-American God of Wind be Chillen, Dawg" - LOL

 

The colors theme is centered around the Red Devil GPU - All Black Components with the LED lighting set to Red. However with the DeepCool Assassin-IV Cooler now installed, Im enjoying having the LEDs match the DeepCool logo on the cooler, with an RGB strip set to while illuminating the background.

 

UPCOMING CHANGES:

 

There is still one change to make - the CPU cooler. I want to update from this old Noctua D-15S when the new DeepCool Assassin-IV Cooler is finally released, especially as this old Noctua fan has come loose on the hub and now rubs the fan frame, which is extremely annoying.

 

The only way to shut the fan up is to run it at 100% so for now in the BIOS I have the CPU cooler fan pinned at 100% at all times.

 

So with all that out of the way, lets get to the stats of the new build, shall we?

 

BUILD COMPONENTS:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7800X-3D

 

CPU Cooler: Noctua D-15-S (For Now) Now - DeepCool Assassin-IV

 

Thermal Paste: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme

 

RAM: Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB)

6000MHz CL30-38-38-96

 

MoBo: MSI MAG B-650 Tomahawk WiFi

 

GPU: AMD RX 7900-XTX 24GB

(Power Color Red Devil AIB)

 

PSU: Seasonic Focus PX-850

(850-Watt Platinum)

 

Primary/Boot Storage: Samsung 980 Pro M.2 NVME 2TB

 

Secondary Storage: Kingston NV2 M.2 NVME 4TB

 

External Storage: WD Black 7200RPM 8TB HDD

 

Case: Lian Li LanCool 216

 

Monitor: LG UltraGear 34GP83A-B 34" 3440x1440p 144Hz (160Hz OC) Curved HDR-400 Nano-IPS Monitor with FreeSync/G-Sync

 

OS: Windows 11 Professional

 

Other: USB 3.0 x 7 Ports Internal Expansion Card

 

Keyboard: Corsair K70 RapidFire - Cherry MX Speed Switches

 

Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro - 12,000 DPI

 

SETTINGS AND OVERCLOCKING:

 

CPU: EXPO-I with 1.290V SOC, PBO All-Core Curve Optimizer set to -30mV. Result is +180MHz All-Core Max Clock (4980MHz During CineBench Multi-Core)

 

RAM: EXPO-I 1.350V, 6000MHz with Timings of 30-38-38-96

 

GPU (MY PREFERRED DAILY SAFE OC SETTINGS): +5% Power Limit (400-Watt Max), 1100mV Core Voltage, 2650MHz Actual VRAM Clock, Fast VRAM Timings Enabled, Custom Aggressive Fan Curve

 

GPU ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM OC (NOT 100% STABLE): +15% Power Limit (430-Watt Max), 1020mV Core Voltage, 2760MHz Actual VRAM clock, Fast VRAM Timings Enabled, Fans Locked at 100%

 

SUMMARY:

 

I found some good deals on certain components. As a result, the total Cost of the TOWER (excludes Monitor and Input Devices as well as any external drives) is about $2500 USD after tax.

 

Once the CPU Cooler is updated this will truly be the ultimate Air-Cooled experience. The massive 160mm bespoke Lian Li Intake Fans on the LanCool 216 can spin at up to 1800 RPM and create a wind-tunnel-like mass of airflow inside the case.

 

Currently, the CPU maxes out at 81°C during the CineBench R23 10-Min Stress Loop, despite the overclocking. On Average, after a few minutes to heat-soak, the the CPU temp tends to mostly bounce around between 79°C and 80°C under full load.

 

More Pics with more detail will show as I update the CPU Cooler and finalize the build. I will be sure to update the OP when this happens with more information. For now the only benchmarking I have done is CineBench R23 with a score of 18350 and a Unigine Superposition 4K Optimized Score of 23961. Im waiting for the new CPU cooler before I do extensive testing.

 

For now, here are the pics of the tower itself. Don't mind the clutter surrounding the machine as I was just finishing up and the tools and parts were scattered all-around.

 

BUILD PICS:

 

 

 

 

BUILD UPDATE JULY 13 2023:

 

The final Piece of the Puzzle has finally arrived - the DeepCool Assassin-IV CPU cooler. This is a BIG upgrade from the 5+ year old Noctua D-15-S that was installed in the system. The Noctua Fan was getting old and starting to wobble and its performance was suffering. Even with all fans at 100% speed, the D-15-S would have the Ryzen 7800X-3D CPU hitting 81.2C and with all fans in silent mode it would hit 84.1C. Meanwhile, the Assassin-IV performs much better. Even with all system fans including the CPU fans in silent mode, the Assassin-IV has the CPU maxing out at about 78.5C, and with all fans at full speed that maximum drops to 77.6C. I noticed during the run that the temperature would typically bounce between 76.5C and 77.3C. So on average, the Assassin-IV runs 4.0-5.0C cooler than the D-15-S and is quieter as well. Both coolers ran Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste and since I upgraded from AM4 to AM5 not long ago, the D-15-S did in fact have fresh paste and was cleaned during the upgrade as well, so no excuses for the old cooler.

 

I also went ahead and updated to the latest BIOS for the motherboard dated 06/30/2023 and was able to tweak OC settings ever so slightly for some additional performance. I reduced SOC voltage manually only very slightly to avoid CPU melting issues in the future - 1.290V. I also gave the Chipset Core a slight voltage boost from 1.050V to 1.100V just to ensure absolute stability. The original CPU overclock and RAM EXPO-I profile remain the same as before, but thanks to the new cooler and adjustments made to other settings, I was able to increase all-core boost clock slightly resulting in a slightly better CineBench score as you can see in the screenshot below. The All-Core Boost frequency is now 4,980 MHz as the test begins, then settles in at 4,970 MHz as the CPU gets hotter.

 

(Assassin-IV installed in system)

 

 

BENCHMARKING PICS:

 

(DeepCool Assassin-IV CineBench Results - Custom Medium Aggression Fan Curve for balance between silence and performance - 10 Min Throttle Test)

 

(DeepCool Assassin-IV CineBench Results - Absolute Best CineBench SINGLE RUN with unnecessary background apps disabled)

 

(Unigine SuperPosition Daily Safe OC)

 

(Unigine SuperPosition Absolute Maximum GPU OC)

 

(3D Mark Time Spy - Typical Daily Safe OC Settings)

 

(3DMark TimeSpy - Absolute Maximum GPU OC)

 

(3DMark Time Spy Extreme - Typical Daily Safe OC Settings)

 

(3DMark SpeedWay - Typical Daily Safe OC Settings)

 

(3DMark Port Royal - Typical Daily Safe OC Settings)

[Floresdorf]

That cable management is really good! Also, that black and white cables look great.

[WallacEngineering]

1 hour ago, Floresdorf said:

That cable management is really good! Also, that black and white cables look great.

Ya Cable Management is super easy when you have no SATA Drives lol. No SATA cables, only one SATA power wire for my USB expansion card. Cable Management was literally 5-10mins

 

Ya I like the Black and White Cables too. They nice

[WallacEngineering]

Here is some Atomic Heart Maximum Settings Gameplay at 3440x1440p

 

 

[WallacEngineering]

July 15th, 2023 Update:

 

The CPU Cooler I was waiting for released, I got it installed and did all the testing I felt was necessary.

 

Updates have been made to the OP, and this will be the final update for this build thread. From here on out, its just discussion and comments.

[WallacEngineering]

I Lied - One More Update: I Picked up an upgraded 3440x1440 Monitor today. It was on sale for $200 off the original MSRP of $749.99

 

LG UltraGear 34GP83A-B 34" 3440x1440p 144Hz (160Hz OC) Curved HDR-400 Nano-IPS Monitor with FreeSync/G-Sync

 

Ive never had HDR before and it was on sale so I figured why not, I should be able to get $250-$300 or so from selling my old ASUS ROG PG348Q IPS 100Hz 3440x1440p monitor anyways. Also the Asus was a G-Sync only display so ya know... thats a problem with an AMD GPU lol.

[WallacEngineering]

Okay, now this really should be the final update (I think LOL ) So I redid some of the testing, replaced some of the images in the OP, and also added the settings of my absolute maximum GPU OC to the OP.

 

These Maximum OC settings are NOT recommended for gaming whatsoever as the card does crash about 1 in every 4-5 runs just trying to complete the SuperPosition benchmark and literally crashes about 50% of TimeSpy Benchmark runs and won't even survive 15 minutes inside of just about any game lol.

 

From what I have seen, if you run maximum +15% power limit while tuning the XTX on Adrenaline, the absolute maximum OC that is actually stable and could be run on a daily basis without crashing games looks like this:

 

+15% Power Limit (430-Watt Max), 1080mV Core Voltage, 2700MHz Actual VRAM Clock, Fast VRAM Timings Enabled

 

Of course you will want to enable a fairly agressive custom fan curve to keep the card cool enough to promote stability, and these settings will vary a bit from card to card based on your luck with the silicon lottery and your AIB design.