Building First PC

[BabyPifi]

Hello Everyone !
Before you start reading this I would like to thank you in advance for helping my ignorant self build a PC.

 

Budget (including currency): 2000€ ± 200€

Country: France

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: World Of Warcraft, Risk Of Rain 2, Tiny Tina Wonderlands, Streaming/Recording, Programming Machine Learning Mostly.

Other details: Building my first PC currently using Omen Laptop with GTX 1070 and i7-8750H. I can finally build a Desktop PC, Ideally it should be able de run 1080p on 144HZ screen with constant FPS for the foreseeable future. I could dable in some 1440p gaming but I more concerned about have a long lasting PC.

I was thinking of something like this:

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/QQMYMb

For GPU I've been wanting to go team red for a while but Nvidia is still amazing for Machine Learning applications ... Still i've be hesitating between RX 7900 XT, RX 6950 XT or RTX 4070 (Recently on discount at <600€)

For CPU i'm kinda clueless since I know it can bottle neck the GPU performance but I don't have a horse in intel vs AMD battle
Important Note: I attache no importance to the appearance of the PC

 

PS: I've read on some blogs that AMD is more expensive in France than other countries so if anyone has some info on that I'm curious.

Thank for you time.

Updated Link.

[leclod]

I see nothing when I open your list

[BabyPifi]

6 hours ago, leclod said:

I see nothing when I open your list

Sorry about that,

I updated the link in theory.
Note alot of it is place holders since I really don't whant cooling system is required for this type of rig

[leclod]

3 minutes ago, BabyPifi said:

Sorry about that,

I updated the link in theory.
Note alot of it is place holders since I really don't whant cooling system is required for this type of rig

I still see nothing when I open your list

 

(and : Note a lot of it is place holders since I really don't know what cooling system is required for this type of rig )

[Bob__]

heres one https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rWjFQ6

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Bob__ said:

heres one https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rWjFQ6

+1, but I would probs suggest a bigger case like the h7 flow since I have the 4000d and you CAN fit a 340mm long gpu but its really cutting it with a fan at the front. With the h7 flow you've got loads of space

[Bob__]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

+1, but I would probs suggest a bigger case like the h7 flow since I have the 4000d and you CAN fit a 340mm long gpu but its really cutting it with a fan at the front. With the h7 flow you've got loads of space

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/LVZYMb

[bezza...]

6 minutes ago, Bob__ said:

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/LVZYMb

good pc but might want to get a slightly better ssd. i mean the ssd is good it is the one in my current pc but my pc cost 500 £ not 2500 ik its in euros but you get my point. might want somthing wiht a dram cash

[Bob__]

9 minutes ago, Tomberry said:

good pc but might want to get a slightly better ssd. i mean the ssd is good it is the one in my current pc but my pc cost 500 £ not 2500 ik its in euros but you get my point. might want somthing wiht a dram cash

DRAM doesnt even make a big difference the NV2 is fine for gamers or anyone who doesn't use there PC as a file server

[bezza...]

Just now, Bob__ said:

DRAM doesnt even make a big difference the NV2 is fine for gamers or anyone who doesn't use there PC as a file server

i mean its the ops choice. i have the ssd and it is fine but having used systems with better ones it might be worth spending a little more which is not much considering the total build cost

[igormp]

2 hours ago, BabyPifi said:

For GPU I've been wanting to go team red for a while but Nvidia is still amazing for Machine Learning applications ... Still i've be hesitating between RX 7900 XT, RX 6950 XT or RTX 4070 (Recently on discount at <600€)

If you really want to do ML, then AMD is not an option whatsoever, so you need to pick your poison.

[Why_Me]

Better motherboard, 180Hz monitor, case with better airflow (2x140mm front intake fans + 1x120mm exhaust fan), 5 pipe cpu cooler.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€325.00 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG500 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.79 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: *Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WIFI II ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€165.18 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€72.98 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ FNAC) 
Video Card: *Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€655.94 @ TopAchat) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.99 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A750GF 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€108.02 @ Amazon France) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (€93.97 @ Amazon France) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€10.41 @ Amazon France) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G24F 2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor  (€183.30 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €1847.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 17:54 CEST+0200

 

A better look at those components. 

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/G24F-2#kf

 

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/rgb-black-tg-clear-tint/ 

 

https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wi-fi/  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG500-BK-ARGB-Performance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16252.shtml   

 

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/dual/dual-rtx4070-12g/

 

[Why_Me]

Intel version of the above build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€419.00 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€64.98 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€163.88 @ Alternate) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€72.98 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ FNAC) 
Video Card: *Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€655.94 @ TopAchat) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.99 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A750GF 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€108.02 @ Amazon France) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (€93.97 @ Amazon France) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€10.41 @ Amazon France) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte G24F 2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor  (€183.30 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €1962.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 17:57 CEST+0200

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 16:59 CEST+0200

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B760-P-WIFI-DDR4 

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230491/intel-core-i713700f-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html  

 

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/AG620-BK-ARGB-Dual-Tower-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2022/16082.shtml

[Why_Me]

DDR5 build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€419.00 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€64.98 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€195.94 @ TopAchat) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€130.88 @ Alternate) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ FNAC) 
Video Card: *Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€655.94 @ TopAchat) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.99 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A750GF 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€108.02 @ Amazon France) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (€93.97 @ Amazon France) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€10.41 @ Amazon France) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte G24F 2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor  (€183.30 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €2052.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 17:59 CEST+0200

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

[BabyPifi]

10 hours ago, Bob__ said:

heres one https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rWjFQ6

Hey first of all thanks for the help !
This build seems amazing but a tat bit pricey with the 78003DX would a build with 58003DX like this be good :

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/g3g6k9

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€334.78 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€184.44 @ Amazon France)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€103.88 @ Alternate)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€879.00 @ Amazon France)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  (€127.30 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€176.37 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1941.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 19:55 CEST+0200

 

Or is it worth to spend a bit more to get the better CPU and DDR5 ?

 

 

[BabyPifi]

9 hours ago, Why_Me said:

DDR5 build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700F 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor  (€419.00 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  (€64.98 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: *MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€195.94 @ TopAchat) 
Memory: *G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€130.88 @ Alternate) 
Storage: *Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€104.99 @ FNAC) 
Video Card: *Asus DUAL GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€655.94 @ TopAchat) 
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.99 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: *MSI MPG A750GF 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€108.02 @ Amazon France) 
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit  (€93.97 @ Amazon France) 
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  (€10.41 @ Amazon France) 
Monitor: *Gigabyte G24F 2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor  (€183.30 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €2052.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 17:59 CEST+0200

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

Hey thanks for the advice but from the chart you gave above it seems that 7900XT performs alot better than the 4070 for a similar price.

Would a build like this with Intel be good ?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€331.17 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€190.21 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€125.88 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€879.00 @ Amazon France)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  (€127.30 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€176.37 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1965.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 20:07 CEST+0200

 

 

[Bob__]

1 minute ago, BabyPifi said:

Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING WIFI II ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€184.44 @ Amazon France)

anything form the strix line isnt worth it. (See sponsor complaints area)

1 minute ago, BabyPifi said:

Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€176.37 @ Amazon France)

for that price just get a corsair 850e

2 minutes ago, BabyPifi said:

CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)

and get a peerless assassin this is over priced for what it is

 

[Bob__]

Just now, BabyPifi said:

Hey thanks for the advice but from the chart you gave above it seems that 7900XT performs alot better than the 4070 for a similar price.

Would a build like this with Intel be good ?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€331.17 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€190.21 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€125.88 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€879.00 @ Amazon France)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  (€127.30 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€176.37 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1965.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 20:07 CEST+0200

 

 

really no

[Bob__]

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wm7x4s

[Why_Me]

8 minutes ago, BabyPifi said:

Hey thanks for the advice but from the chart you gave above it seems that 7900XT performs alot better than the 4070 for a similar price.

Would a build like this with Intel be good ?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€331.17 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID P240 78.73 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 GAMING X AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€190.21 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€125.88 @ Amazon France)
Storage: Crucial P3 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€45.99 @ Amazon France)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€879.00 @ Amazon France)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  (€127.30 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€176.37 @ Amazon France)
Total: €1965.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-08 20:07 CEST+0200

 

 

That board won't handle that unlocked cpu due to it's VRM's.  

 

This board will handle that cpu.

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/TxcgXL/msi-b760-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760-gaming-plus-wifi 

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B760-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI