Any tips on new build?

KMMothy · April 26, 2023

Budget (including currency):

Country: USA

Other details CPU : Intel Core i7-13700K - Core i7 13th Gen Raptor

Motherboard : ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WiFi

Memory : G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB)

GPU : GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G

Case : CORSAIR 5000D Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX

Storage : SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 250GB

Power : HX1000 - 1000 Watt 80 PLUS PLatinum

TBH I'm just trying to find places where I may have spent a lil too much for no reason. From my understanding its a well rounded PC but idk if anyting is gonna be a lil too overkill. I dont have a strict budget but around 2000 USD would be nice.

Queen Chrysalis · April 26, 2023

What do you wanna do with it? Gaming? Resolution?

A lot of this stuff could probably be cheaper, and you can definitely get a better GPU if you're gaming. 'Well-rounded' is kind of a meme way of saying 'unoptimized', and paying for stuff that doesn't really benefit your use case.

RONOTHAN## · April 26, 2023

9 minutes ago, KMMothy said:

TBH I'm just trying to find places where I may have spent a lil too much for no reason

Motherboard, storage, case, and power supply. For the motherboard you can easily get by with something like a Z790 Aorus Elite for this tier of system, a board that's half the price and most of the features. For the storage you might as well just get a 4TB Crucial P5 Plus, it's slightly slower than the 980 Pro but it's double the capacity and not that much more expensive and you can ditch the 970 Evo, other option is a 4TB Crucial P3 which is IIRC half the price and you aren't likely to notice a difference. For the case, the 4000D Airflow is basically the same case but with a little less focus on custom water cooling. If you're just doing air cooling, the 4000D is a better option. For the PSU, you don't need a 1000W unit, just get a 850W like an RM850W or MSI A850G PCIE5, preferably one with the 12+4 pin connector so you don't need to use the adapter for that GPU.

thewelshbrummie · April 26, 2023

What you want to do with the build matters, as does your budget. Gaming? Rendering? Monitor resolution? We need those details to provide proper advice.

That said:

GPU - 4070 if you want to go with a 4000 series Nvidia card. The 4070 TI is terrible value. The 4070 (non-TI) is still an expensive card but price/performance numbers aren't too unreasonable for the money.

CPU - For a gaming only build the 13600K is a better option.

$500 is crazy for a motherboard. Just skimming the listing you linked to shows the RUF Z790 as an alternative option for $261, nearly half the price. With what appears to be similar features. Definitely consider a cheaper board.

And a 1000W PSU is overkill - 700W will work even for the TI if paired with a Ryzen 9 5900X.

KMMothy · April 26, 2023

18 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

What do you wanna do with it? Gaming? Resolution?

A lot of this stuff could probably be cheaper, and you can definitely get a better GPU if you're gaming. 'Well-rounded' is kind of a meme way of saying 'unoptimized', and paying for stuff that doesn't really benefit your use case.

well rounded meant like, i game but also stream, edit videos, but mostly game, most of the parts i picked werre very based and little thought put into them, i wanna go for a 40 series but dont know whats best to use with it so i did broad searching and found the motherboard and other basic parts.

Queen Chrysalis · April 26, 2023

4 minutes ago, KMMothy said:

well rounded meant like, i game but also stream, edit videos, but mostly game, most of the parts i picked werre very based and little thought put into them, i wanna go for a 40 series but dont know whats best to use with it so i did broad searching and found the motherboard and other basic parts.

If this is mainly a gaming build, you could spend a lot less and get something that will game notable faster in everything:

The 13700k is great but it's a lot of money for a ton of cores that are primarily just gonna sit there and do nothing. you'll be GPU bound anyway. The 7600 is more than fast enough to go with any GPU on the market. The Zen 4 core is a little faster and 6 hyperthreaded cores is plenty. You could go with a 7700 if you really want more cores, but AM5 should be around long enough (in theory,) that if 12 threads actually ever became an issue for games, you could upgrade to like a ryzen 7 9700x when it comes out. But I don't think that'll be an issue. 6 cores is still plenty for video editing. The final product will look the same, your export just takes a little longer.
$500 for a motherboard is just plain silly. Entire consoles with CPU, GPU, and PSU cost that much. It's a non-performance part for all intents and purposes. Unless you know there's some specific feature you need, it doesn't help anything. The motherboards job is to just work. The board in my parts list is pretty cheap, and some people will cringe at an a621 chipset, but it's a good board, and unless you wanna OC the CPU (I wouldn't), there's nothing wrong with it and games will run as expected. If you wanna go up on the board a little bit, I wouldn't fault you, but this will do what you need no problem.
Go with the 4000D airflow. It looks the same, flows better, and costs a lot less while just being slightly smaller (it's still plenty big).
The 980 Pro won;t benefit gaming in any real way. Any NVMe is gonna load game assets extremely quickly, so the faster R/W speeds of drives like that don't ever really amount to anything. You would never notice the difference.
1000w is more PSU than you need, and 1000w PSUs incur a significant price premium over 850w PSUs. A very solid 850 like the RM 850 would never have a problem. A white PSU will also come with white cables, which will look nice in your system.
You'll probably want an aftermarket CPU cooler to ensure good boost clocks and low noise. The Assassin King is a steal for $22 with 5 heat pipes. The light gray fan will also match the accents on the 4000D.
You might wanna add some fans. These ones from corsair are a good deal, 2x140mm fans should be good for intake. The case comes with 2x 120mm fans, one is already mounted to the exhaust, the other you could put on the top or just pocket for later. IDK why corsair used black fans for a white case. If you get your case form corsair.com, you should get free shipping on the fans and the case. You might also find the PSU cheaper on there.
RM White Series™ RM850 — 850 Watt 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX PSU (Refurbished) (corsair.com)
I've bought refurbished from corsair before, all of the srtuuff comes in perfect condition, and it's been verified to function perfectly by a technician. Some would say certified refurbished from a solid company like that is almost better than new, because someone has actually looked at it and tested it.
The 7900XTX is way faster than the 4070ti in everything.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($21.39 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock A620M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan alpha 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($88.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($959.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.95 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.95 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Corsair AF140L 67.43 CFM 140 mm Fan ($4.99 @ Corsair)
Case Fan: Corsair AF140L 67.43 CFM 140 mm Fan ($4.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $1749.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-26 18:34 EDT-0400

KMMothy · April 26, 2023

5 minutes ago, thewelshbrummie said:

What you want to do with the build matters, as does your budget. Gaming? Rendering? Monitor resolution? We need those details to provide proper advice.

That said:

GPU - 4070 if you want to go with a 4000 series Nvidia card. The 4070 TI is terrible value. The 4070 (non-TI) is still an expensive card but price/performance numbers aren't too unreasonable for the money.

CPU - For a gaming only build the 13600K is a better option.

$500 is crazy for a motherboard. Just skimming the listing you linked to shows the RUF Z790 as an alternative option for $261, nearly half the price. With what appears to be similar features. Definitely consider a cheaper board.

And a 1000W PSU is overkill - 700W will work even for the TI if paired with a Ryzen 9 5900X.

1000w may be overkill but I already have it. got it for 50$ so i kinda wanna use it.

dont get me wrong, 500 is crazy for a motherboard, thats why i came here. I want to upgrade from my old pc so I picked a 40 series gpu to center my build. but not having any knowledge on the part or what it needs I didnt know what would bottleneck it terribly so i came here for help lol. and if therre isnt much of a difference in motherboards would ya happen to know why there is a 250$ difference?

Queen Chrysalis · April 26, 2023

Just now, KMMothy said:

1000w may be overkill but I already have it. got it for 50$ so i kinda wanna use it.

What year HX1000 is it?

Queen Chrysalis · April 26, 2023

Worth mentioning that these are also a solid option for front intake if you want some RGB:

Thermalright TL-C12C-S 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (TL-C12CW-S X3 D6) - PCPartPicker

KMMothy · April 26, 2023

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

If this is mainly a gaming build, you could spend a lot less and get something that will game notable faster in everything:

The 13700k is great but it's a lot of money for a ton of cores that are primarily just gonna sit there and do nothing. you'll be GPU bound anyway. The 7600 is more than fast enough to go with any GPU on the market. The Zen 4 core is a little faster and 6 hyperthreaded cores is plenty. You could go with a 7700 if you really want more cores, but AM5 should be around long enough (in theory,) that if 12 threads actually ever became an issue for games, you could upgrade to like a ryzen 7 9700x when it comes out. But I don't think that'll be an issue. 6 cores is still plenty for video editing. The final product will look the same, your export just takes a little longer.

$500 for a motherboard is just plain silly. Entire consoles with CPU, GPU, and PSU cost that much. It's a non-performance part for all intents and purposes. Unless you know there's some specific feature you need, it doesn't help anything. The motherboards job is to just work. The board in my parts list is pretty cheap, and some people will cringe at an a621 chipset, but it's a good board, and unless you wanna OC the CPU (I wouldn't), there's nothing wrong with it and games will run as expected. If you wanna go up on the board a little bit, I wouldn't fault you, but this will do what you need no problem.

Go with the 4000D airflow. It looks the same, flows better, and costs a lot less while just being slightly smaller (it's still plenty big).

The 980 Pro won;t benefit gaming in any real way. Any NVMe is gonna load game assets extremely quickly, so the faster R/W speeds of drives like that don't ever really amount to anything. You would never notice the difference.

1000w is more PSU than you need, and 1000w PSUs incur a significant price premium over 850w PSUs. A very solid 850 like the RM 850 would never have a problem. A white PSU will also come with white cables, which will look nice in your system.

You'll probably want an aftermarket CPU cooler to ensure good boost clocks and low noise. The Assassin King is a steal for $22 with 5 heat pipes. The light gray fan will also match the accents on the 4000D.

You might wanna add some fans. These ones from corsair are a good deal, 2x140mm fans should be good for intake. The case comes with 2x 120mm fans, one is already mounted to the exhaust, the other you could put on the top or just pocket for later. IDK why corsair used black fans for a white case. If you get your case form corsair.com, you should get free shipping on the fans and the case. You might also find the PSU cheaper on there.

RM White Series™ RM850 — 850 Watt 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX PSU (Refurbished) (corsair.com)

I've bought refurbished from corsair before, all of the srtuuff comes in perfect condition, and it's been verified to function perfectly by a technician. Some would say certified refurbished from a solid company like that is almost better than new, because someone has actually looked at it and tested it.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($21.39 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock A620M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan alpha 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL38 Memory ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($88.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($959.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.95 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.95 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Corsair AF140L 67.43 CFM 140 mm Fan ($4.99 @ Corsair)
Case Fan: Corsair AF140L 67.43 CFM 140 mm Fan ($4.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $1749.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-26 18:34 EDT-0400

i just want to make sure performance on Any game (for the most part) is never a issue, especially if i wanna stream and play my game at the same time. or to video edit and not have my pc just freeze

1 minute ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

What year HX1000 is it?

im not exactly sure where to find it. ill keep looking tho.

Queen Chrysalis · April 26, 2023

50 minutes ago, KMMothy said:

i just want to make sure performance on Any game (for the most part) is never a issue, especially if i wanna stream and play my game at the same time. or to video edit and not have my pc just freeze

Aye, none of that would happen with a 7600 (zen 4 is the fastest core ever released, and you have 6 of them hyperthreaded), but if it makes you feel any better, a 7700 would be like $100 more for 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads. You'll also likely be streaming with your GPU anyway, but x265 doesn't need that many threads if you wanna do CPU streaming.

The only part of video editing that's really CPU intensive is your final export, and that will load all of your cores 10 100% regardless of what you have installed. 6 Zen 4 cores will encode very quickly, but if you want 8 it'll be 33% faster.

I still edit video and stream with a 1600, which is about half as fast as a 7600, and it works flawlessly.

Why_Me · April 27, 2023

7 hours ago, KMMothy said:

Budget (including currency):

Country: USA

Other details CPU :   Intel Core i7-13700K - Core i7 13th Gen Raptor

Motherboard :   ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WiFi

Memory :   G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB)

GPU :   GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G

Case :   CORSAIR 5000D Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX

Storage :   SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2 2280 2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 250GB

Power : HX1000 - 1000 Watt 80 PLUS PLatinum

TBH I'm just trying to find places where I may have spent a lil too much for no reason. From my understanding its a well rounded PC but idk if anyting is gonna be a lil too overkill. I dont have a strict budget but around 2000 USD would be nice.