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Budget (including currency): 2200 - 2400€ (Euro) 

Country: Portugal (Porto)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Warzone 2 and some other good games even openworld

Other details: I own all ready a SSD NVMe Gen4

 

Well some tech guy made me a random build that Im not sure if I can trust.

Rather ask here because many of u guys know much more deeper what Hardware handles.

 

Frist, I know 1080p seems outdated but for me is still a good resolution. I gain alote frames (or not?)

Keep in mind I have to buy local so I have big stores like PCDiga or Globaldata (2 biggest in my country anyways).

 

Monitores are sadly not exactly at their high offers so Im kinda stuck there and with CPU too.

 

Some guys say I should go for a AMD Ryzen 7 7700X and some say I profit much more with a i7 13700KF.

 

GPU I made already a choice, the AMD Rx 7900XT has a very good price (much higher then in america and other countrys ofc) but compared to Nvidia, seems much better.

 

Any suggestions like PSU, CPU, Motherboard and RAM...? Case I can take care of it easy.

Keep in mind I do alote Warzone 2 gaming even if Im not a Twitch player, I´ll be competitive.

I play on PS5 but it sucks sticking with Controller.

 

Also, my gfs is on a i5 13500F with a Rx 6700 XT and rocks very well on WZ2 (avg 120 Frames at Ultra). I wanna better, more then she has 😛 

 

 

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Id say 13700k (I dislike F sku CPUS since IGPU can be quite useful) depending on the pricing in your country. Always comes down to the pricing of the CPU, Motherboard in your area. If the 7700x is a lot cheaper, go with that, if the 13600k/13700k is cheaper, go with that. 

 

PSU just get a good quality 850W.

 

7900XT for 1080p is  kinda silly, but you do you. Hope you have a 240hz/360 hz monitor cause otherwise its pretty much wasted.  

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For your budget, there is no reason not to get a 1440p system.  You will be in love with how clear everything looks. The monitor is the most important piece of a gaming PC, so there's no point in getting a nice PC for a cheap monitor and having your games look basic.

 

This GPU should be able to play everything at ultra 1440p very high framerates.  You really can't get anything faster than this, other thana 4090 which is way, way more expensive for a modest gain:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€257.06 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€220.58 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€140.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.08 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool CG560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€86.30 @ PC Componentes) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Monitor: ViewSonic VX3418-2KPC 34.0" 3440 x 1440 Curved Monitor  (€390.26 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €2391.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 02:46 WEST+0100

 

If you really don't want an ultrawide, this one is a great value for 220e:

ViewSonic VX2718-2KPC-MHD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor (VX2718-2KPC-MHD) - PCPartPicker

 

But the ultrawides are super immersive, a big step-up in the total gaming experience.

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5 hours ago, Shimejii said:

Id say 13700k (I dislike F sku CPUS since IGPU can be quite useful) depending on the pricing in your country. Always comes down to the pricing of the CPU, Motherboard in your area. If the 7700x is a lot cheaper, go with that, if the 13600k/13700k is cheaper, go with that. 

 

PSU just get a good quality 850W.

 

7900XT for 1080p is  kinda silly, but you do you. Hope you have a 240hz/360 hz monitor cause otherwise its pretty much wasted.  

The difference of price is just 30€.

 

PSU is one of the most importante stuff that I know from the past with bad decisions hehe.

Well I´m considering 1440p if it doesn´t hurt much on frames and quality.

 

I don´t own yet a monitor.

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3 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

For your budget, there is no reason not to get a 1440p system.  You will be in love with how clear everything looks. The monitor is the most important piece of a gaming PC, so there's no point in getting a nice PC for a cheap monitor and having your games look basic.

 

This GPU should be able to play everything at ultra 1440p very high framerates.  You really can't get anything faster than this, other thana 4090 which is way, way more expensive for a modest gain:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€257.06 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€220.58 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€140.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.08 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Deepcool CG560 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€86.30 @ PC Componentes) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Monitor: ViewSonic VX3418-2KPC 34.0" 3440 x 1440 Curved Monitor  (€390.26 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €2391.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 02:46 WEST+0100

 

If you really don't want an ultrawide, this one is a great value for 220e:

ViewSonic VX2718-2KPC-MHD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor (VX2718-2KPC-MHD) - PCPartPicker

 

But the ultrawides are super immersive, a big step-up in the total gaming experience.

Nice build.

Sadly I hate ultrawide monitore 😛 can´t figure it out. I think for 1440p I can find many choices not?

 

Since its 1440p we are talking about, what would u recommend as CPU? Its not that CPU bound right? Even the 7900 XT would handle it paired like a 7700X or i7 13700KF?

 

PC Componentes is a spanish store. It has good prices and well I wouldn´t mind to buy there but sadly the store itself is in spain, I live in Portugal. Everything that is shipped to my home can´t work... sadly bad storys :S shit country I mean.

 

Anyways PCDiga or Globaldata are the best stores that we have and we have them here in my city (Porto).

If u don´t mind I would give u later based on ur help since there are stuff handy 2 PC Rings (one AMD and another Intel) to see were im sitting.

 

Thanks for the help. Hope u can guide me a little more after

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3 hours ago, jaydeltaa said:

Since its 1440p we are talking about, what would u recommend as CPU? Its not that CPU bound right?

I mean that 7600X is a slot in. If you wanna compress it further the only way to go is 13500 with DDR4 set. 13500 is basically a locked 13600K so on boost they perform basically the same. Compared to 7600X in raw gaming? They do lose out a bit.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€274.90 @ PCDIGA) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€65.97 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: ASRock B660 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€159.90 @ Globaldata) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.50 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.08 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27QC A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor  (€302.39 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €2230.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 10:05 WEST+0100

 

For 1080p240 this would be the redline build on it. Or just go for @Queen Chrysalis build and drop-in 7800X3D or 8800X3D later on with a cooler when that became a thing.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€517.41 @ PC Componentes) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€65.97 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€220.58 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€140.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: PowerColor RX 7900 XT 20G Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€1029.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Monitor: ViewSonic XG2431 23.8" 1920 x 1080 240 Hz Monitor  (€318.14 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €2494.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 10:13 WEST+0100

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8 hours ago, jaydeltaa said:

Well I´m considering 1440p if it doesn´t hurt much on frames and quality.

It wwill run a lower frame rate on 1440p, but with these GPUs, the framerate will already be extremely high.  They are extremely fast.  

At some point, a higher framerate becomes meaningless, and a higher resolution becomes much more valuable than a higher framerate.  I promise you that 1440p 165Hz looks WAY better thhan 1080p240Hz.  But frankly with a 7900xtx a lot of games are gonna be doing 1440p240Hz anyway, just depends on what.

8 hours ago, jaydeltaa said:

Its not that CPU bound right?

No.  The difference between the ryzen 5 and ryzen 7 is just core count.  It's the same core.  Being 'CPU-bound' in the way you are referring to has more to do with the speed of the core than the core count.  A hyperthreaded 6-core is as many cores as any game needs.

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8 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

I mean that 7600X is a slot in. If you wanna compress it further the only way to go is 13500 with DDR4 set. 13500 is basically a locked 13600K so on boost they perform basically the same. Compared to 7600X in raw gaming? They do lose out a bit.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-13500 2.5 GHz 14-Core Processor  (€274.90 @ PCDIGA) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€65.97 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: ASRock B660 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€159.90 @ Globaldata) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€46.50 @ Globaldata) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1179.08 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27QC A 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Curved Monitor  (€302.39 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €2230.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 10:05 WEST+0100

 

For 1080p240 this would be the redline build on it. Or just go for @Queen Chrysalis build and drop-in 7800X3D or 8800X3D later on with a cooler when that became a thing.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€517.41 @ PC Componentes) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€65.97 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€220.58 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€140.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: PowerColor RX 7900 XT 20G Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  (€1029.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Monitor: ViewSonic XG2431 23.8" 1920 x 1080 240 Hz Monitor  (€318.14 @ PC Componentes) 
Total: €2494.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 10:13 WEST+0100

 

So I´m all in for 1440p, let´s rock 😛

 

I took ur advice ofc and others. 

 

What u think of this build for 1440p? I saw alote videos and there is just 5 frames difference between CPUs at 1440p why? Even from a i9 to a i5 or AMD...or is that just fake?

 

My "pré-build"

Case - ATX Kolink Observatory Duo ARGB + with a additional fan RGB (75€)

PSU - Gigabyte AORUS P850W 80 Plus GoldGP (134,90€)

CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core 4.5GHz c/ Turbo 5.4GHz 40MB Cache (386€)

Cooler - CPU Corsair H60x Elite RGB 120mm (104,90€)

Motherboard - Asus TUF Gaming B650M-Plus WiFi (226€)

RAM - G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo (AMD Expo) 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000MHz CL32 (142€)

GPU - MSI Radeon RX 7900 XTX GAMING TRIO CLASSIC 24GB (1159€)

 

Monitor - Lenovo Legion G32qc-30 VA 31.5" QHD 16:9 170Hz (354€)

         or - AOC Gaming 32" CQ32G3SU/BK VA QHD 165Hz (342€)

 

Price +/- would be - 2600€ (kinda over my budget but well... 

 

I wanna 32" because at 1440p that has to be present. 

 

Maybe the CPU is a bad choice? Cooling and so scares me

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You’re trying to put an am4 cpu into an am5 motherboard.

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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3 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

You’re trying to put an am4 cpu into an am5 motherboard.

Oh damn... ups :S what a fail

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20 minutes ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

You’re trying to put an am4 cpu into an am5 motherboard.

Well I edited...

Give it a check and feedback if u don´t mind. I´m sure I did do stuff wrong anyways! 

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22 minutes ago, jaydeltaa said:

Well I edited...

Give it a check and feedback if u don´t mind. I´m sure I did do stuff wrong anyways! 

Well that H60 is pretty expensive for sucha  basic cooler.  Any other 240mm AiO or 6-heatpipe air cooler would be a lot better, and probably cost less.  

Were that many of the components in the list I made not available in Portugal?

 

From PCDIGA and GlobalData, I was able to throw this together based on what it seemed like you wanted:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€259.90 @ Globaldata) 
CPU Cooler: Montech METAL DT24 BASE 69 CFM CPU Cooler  (€67.90 @ Globaldata) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€199.90 @ Globaldata) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€140.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING TRIO CLASSIC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1189.90 @ Globaldata) 
Case: KOLINK OBSERVATORY LITE MESH RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Globaldata) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Total: €2045.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 19:07 WEST+0100

  • The Ion is a much better PSU that the Aorus P
  • That H60 is a weak cooler for how much it costs.  this one will work better an cost less
  • This motherboard is an excellent choice for 200e
  • You could get any of the monitors you want.  I did not see that Lenovo one, just get that instead of the one I have on the parts list.
  • Do you really think you need the 8-core?  If so, go ahead, but I think the 7600x would be a good way to save yourself about 140e and still work identically.  Most CPU benchmarks are done at 1080p with settings on low, so small differences in framerate in those benchmarks usually will never ever show up in real gaming.

Any of those monitors are fine, I could not find them but if you can go for it.

I edit the shit out of my posts.  Refresh before you respond.

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5 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Well that H60 is pretty expensive for sucha  basic cooler.  Any other 240mm AiO or 6-heatpipe air cooler would be a lot better, and probably cost less.  

Were that many of the components in the list I made not available in Portugal?

 

From PCDIGA and GlobalData, I was able to throw this together based on what it seemed like you wanted:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€259.90 @ Globaldata) 
CPU Cooler: Montech METAL DT24 BASE 69 CFM CPU Cooler  (€67.90 @ Globaldata) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€199.90 @ Globaldata) 
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (€140.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Video Card: MSI GAMING TRIO CLASSIC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (€1189.90 @ Globaldata) 
Case: KOLINK OBSERVATORY LITE MESH RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Globaldata) 
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€116.90 @ PCDIGA) 
Total: €2045.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-04-22 19:07 WEST+0100

  • The Ion is a much better PSU that the Aorus P
  • That H60 is a weak cooler for how much it costs.  this one will work better an cost less
  • This motherboard is an excellent choice for 200e
  • You could get any of the monitors you want.  I did not see that Lenovo one, just get that instead of the one I have on the parts list.
  • Do you really think you need the 8-core?  If so, go ahead, but I think the 7600x would be a good way to save yourself about 140e and still work identically.  Most CPU benchmarks are done at 1080p with settings on low, so small differences in framerate in those benchmarks usually will never ever show up in real gaming.

Any of those monitors are fine, I could not find them but if you can go for it.

Nice suggestion.

So I won´t miss Intel for gaming in this case right?

 

I saw this: https://www.techspot.com/article/2579-cod-warzone-2-benchmark/

And I was kinda in choque to see the little difference at 1440p between CPUs

 

About PSU, thanks alote, because Im very outdated about that. Its kinda a huge 500€ difference from my build wow.... with the rest (add monitor I comes close to 2.5K and all the extras that I do not mention here... not bad... its a 500€ less heavy investment 😮 

 

And the good part, both stores are great. Saw today a 1440p 32" Monitor, looks very cool, curved and so... beautiful.

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