Do you think I should buy a 6800xt (given my reasoning)

[pipnina]

I have a 1070 at the moment, 7 years strong. But I felt like an upgrade back when the 6000 and 30 series came out, and only held back because of the limited VRAM in the 30 series and pricing/availability.

2 years on, with 7000 and 40 series coming out, I was planning on waiting for a 7800xt of some sort to appear. But when Linus' review of the 4070 came out, I noticed that the 6800xt and the 7900xt were worryingly close in performance. So much so that I have a hard time believing the 7800xt will be appreciably faster than a 6800xt, meaning it will most likely be a gain in terms of power draw(?)

 

If i take a 6800xt to be sort of "nvidia XX80 tier" in the lineup (6900xt and 6950 seem to have small difference in perf for big increase in cost), then the  £560 I could pick one up for seems not too disproportionate to the £415 I paid for my 1070.

So with that in mind: Based on the trends we're seeing with the GPU lineups now, would it even be worth waiting for a 7800xt to give me 5% more performance and a certain amount less power draw, or should I just buy a 6800xt now and enjoy it for the next 4-6ish years? Because at the moment the waters have calmed and plateaued in terms of pricing and cards (ha) have basically been put on the table, and as much as I don't like the idea, a 2 year old card still seems like a good option?

I'm not fussed about raytracing (seemingly getting food framerates in RT games at 1440p up is still the realm of £900+ nvidia cards) or AI upscaling so an AMD card might be a good match for me anyhow?

 

Only slight detraction from this is my 650w PSU (EVGA supernova G2), and if a 6800xt + R7 5800x would be overstressing it a bit.

 

What are your thoughts about this upgrade?

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

26 minutes ago, pipnina said:

I have a 1070 at the moment, 7 years strong. But I felt like an upgrade back when the 6000 and 30 series came out, and only held back because of the limited VRAM in the 30 series and pricing/availability.

2 years on, with 7000 and 40 series coming out, I was planning on waiting for a 7800xt of some sort to appear. But when Linus' review of the 4070 came out, I noticed that the 6800xt and the 7900xt were worryingly close in performance. So much so that I have a hard time believing the 7800xt will be appreciably faster than a 6800xt, meaning it will most likely be a gain in terms of power draw(?)

 

If i take a 6800xt to be sort of "nvidia XX80 tier" in the lineup (6900xt and 6950 seem to have small difference in perf for big increase in cost), then the  £560 I could pick one up for seems not too disproportionate to the £415 I paid for my 1070.

So with that in mind: Based on the trends we're seeing with the GPU lineups now, would it even be worth waiting for a 7800xt to give me 5% more performance and a certain amount less power draw, or should I just buy a 6800xt now and enjoy it for the next 4-6ish years? Because at the moment the waters have calmed and plateaued in terms of pricing and cards (ha) have basically been put on the table, and as much as I don't like the idea, a 2 year old card still seems like a good option?

I'm not fussed about raytracing (seemingly getting food framerates in RT games at 1440p up is still the realm of £900+ nvidia cards) or AI upscaling so an AMD card might be a good match for me anyhow?

 

Only slight detraction from this is my 650w PSU (EVGA supernova G2), and if a 6800xt + R7 5800x would be overstressing it a bit.

 

What are your thoughts about this upgrade?

I would personally get a 4070, but the 6800xt is a good option too. The 7800xt might not even ever come out FWIW

[bezza...]

no point waiting if you want to now. get the rx 6800xt or if you are worried about power get the non xt varient of the card

[bezza...]

Just now, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

I would personally get a 4070, but the 6800xt is a good option too. The 7800xt might not even ever come out FWIW

disagree the 4070 is more expensive and performs worse. also you are funding nvidias predatory pricing and overall posistion in the market

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

Just now, Tomberry said:

disagree the 4070 is more expensive and performs worse. also you are funding nvidias predatory pricing and overall posistion in the market

Performs worse??????? Lol.

[bezza...]

1 minute ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

Performs worse??????? Lol.

in rastirised games. also has a lot less vram meaning that that will become a bottlneck in a few years. think about how quicly 8 gigs has became a problem

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

Just now, Tomberry said:

in rastirised games. also has a lot less vram meaning that that will become a bottlneck in a few years. think about how quicly 8 gigs has became a problem

The 4070 is faster than the 6800xt in raster too LMAO

[bezza...]

3 minutes ago, ShawtyT30beTHICCC said:

The 4070 is faster than the 6800xt in raster too LMAO

 i mean the ltt video says contrary "LMAO"

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Edited April 19, 2023 by Tomberry
more slides proving my point

[pipnina]

15 minutes ago, Tomberry said:

disagree the 4070 is more expensive and performs worse. also you are funding nvidias predatory pricing and overall posistion in the market

With the exception of price this is roughly how I feel. In the UK I can buy a 4070 for similar prices to a 6800xt, with the 6800xt having the cheapest SKUs

Not sure how low down the list I could/should go. In theory they should all conform to some minimum spec, and I don't intend to do any manual overclocking for sure. I do get a good feeling from the powercolour red dragon one however, and in the past I have read that PC have been a bit poor in the past but shown improvement during the RDNA lines?

 

Thanks for your input btw!

[bezza...]

23 minutes ago, pipnina said:

With the exception of price this is roughly how I feel. In the UK I can buy a 4070 for similar prices to a 6800xt, with the 6800xt having the cheapest SKUs

Not sure how low down the list I could/should go. In theory they should all conform to some minimum spec, and I don't intend to do any manual overclocking for sure. I do get a good feeling from the powercolour red dragon one however, and in the past I have read that PC have been a bit poor in the past but shown improvement during the RDNA lines?

 

Thanks for your input btw!

you should be fine to go as low down the list as you want. im not sure tho about what are the best modles to get. give the name a google and you should find out pretty fast what is good and what is not

[-rascal-]

@pipnina I've been running a 6800XT for a year now. For Ultra/High 1440p gaming, it is easy stuff for the 6800XT.

Then again, I don't use Ray-Tracing or FSR (AMD's equivalent to DLSS), just native 1440p.

(I have another system with a 5800X + RTX 3060Ti, and I don't use Ray-Tracing on that either, ever).

 

650W PSU, might be cutting, that said, it doesn't hurt to try, since the EVGA G2 is a pretty good PSU.

If the system reboots or crashes under load, then it could be the PSU.

If you need a PSU, might as well go with a 850W, over a 750W.

 

Monitoring software (i.e. AMD Adrenalin telemetry, HWi\NFO) shows my Sapphire NITRO+ hitting 290W ~ 300W under gaming.

 

The XFX MERC 319 is one of the better cooler designs.

I would go for that (it is actually one of the least expensive options, too).

[pipnina]

In the end I bit the bullet. Seems great so far as even in games where my performance hasn't quite tripled, everything is a lot smoother so I think it's been worth it.

Thanks guys