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On 4/19/2023 at 1:45 PM, 191x7 said:

This would lead us to memory issues.

 

Does the same happen with XMP (DOCP) off?

 

Can you run PassMark Memtest86 or Memtest86+ to check the memory?

Sorry, I didn't make the memory check, I just gave up and took the PC to a repair shop.
Here is a detail: I have 2 monitors and a TV on my computer (the TV is the main screen), one of my tests was of course, try to check if the stuttering was happening in every screen, and it was.

 

Today the repair shop called me and said there was no problem at all, everything was working fine, I went there and saw it with my own eyes, everything working as it should. I took back the computer to my office, turn on the computer, and again the stuttering from hell. I changed to another wall plug and change the energy cable, the problem persisted. I booted from Linux USB Stick, no stuttering, everything working fine. I took my computer and connected to my living room TV, booted Windows, no stuttering everything working fine.

I took back the computer to my office, change the HDMI cable to another port on my TV, and THERE YOU GO, NO MORE STUTTERING!

 

I have no idea of what kind of black sorcery was happening, that for some reason the HDMI port from my TV was messing with the whole computer, all the other monitors connected had the same stuttering, EXCEPT WHEN YOU TRY TO RUN LINUX, THEN ITS OK.

 

I thank you a lot 191x7, you were very helpful and tried to fix my problem, in the end, it was something that we will never know what the actual f*ck was going on, but problem solved 🙂

Last week I noticed that my PC started stuttering not only when I was gaming, but doing any task. It seems that it happens every second. I noticed that the active time in the performance inspector was spiking with the stutter, I changed my SATA cable, and problem solved, everything came back to normal.

Yesterday the problem came back, but the active time is ok now, the disk transfer rate is spiking now, but not as consistent with the stutter like it was before (at least it seems so). I changed again to a new cable, and nothing happened this time. Tried every single SATA port in the motherboard, the problem persisted. I formatted my SSD, the problem persisted. I changed to another SSD, the problem persisted. To check if the problem was with the SSD, I booted a Linux image on USB and tried it without the SSD driver, and there was no stutter. I don't know what else to do, its really annoying to work with this stutter every second, I don't know what else to try, at this point, even though it seems a lot that the problem is related to the SSD, I'm not completely sure. What else can I try? I know its stupid but I even tried removing my RAM and putting back again, which of course didn't make any difference.

I don't know if the power supply is the issue, maybe I need something better to handle all the components, but again, I have this computer for about 6 months and never had any problem before.

 

motherboard: B550-A PRO

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950x

GPU: Gigabyte Eagle OC 12gb RTX 3060

RAM: DDR4 3200Mhz 16gb x 2

Power Supply: 700W

Cooler for the CPU: Artic Freezer 34 eSport DUO

 

Sorry if I made an english mistake, I'm not a native speaker 🙂

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Latest Bios?

 

Latest chipset drivers from AMD (not MSI)?

 

Latest GPU firmware (vBios)?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3060EAGLE-OC-12GD-rev-20/support#support-dl-firmware

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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4 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Latest Bios?

 

Latest chipset drivers from AMD (not MSI)?

 

Latest GPU firmware (vBios)?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N3060EAGLE-OC-12GD-rev-20/support#support-dl-firmware

I didn't update any bios since I bought because its a little sketchy and there was no reason to do it, but could it be the problem? If yes, why was it working fine before and somehow its giving me problems now?

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9 minutes ago, LeoPoli said:

I didn't update any bios since I bought because its a little sketchy and there was no reason to do it, but could it be the problem? If yes, why was it working fine before and somehow its giving me problems now?

What's sketchy, AMD fixing issues?

Just flash the latest Bios. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B550-A-PRO/support

The Agesa that fixes TPM stutters was released months ago.

 

The explaination is simple; the issue was cumulative.

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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27 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

What's sketchy, AMD fixing issues?

Just flash the latest Bios. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B550-A-PRO/support

The Agesa that fixes TPM stutters was released months ago.

 

The explaination is simple; the issue was cumulative.

 

Its something that I only did once and I read that could brick your computer if the power goes off, that's why I think its a little sketchy 🙂
Anyway, just updated my motherboard with the latest bios, and... nothing, the problem persists 😞 

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10 minutes ago, LeoPoli said:

 

Its something that I only did once and I read that could brick your computer if the power goes off, that's why I think its a little sketchy 🙂
Anyway, just updated my motherboard with the latest bios, and... nothing, the problem persists 😞 

Modern boards have Bios flashback that saves the day if flashing goes wrong. Some have dual bios too.

 

Ok, now we eliminated the highest likely cause. We can continue with the less likely causes.

 

1. Check your SSD/HDD health with Hard Disk Sentinel (trial/free is OK)

2. Check your CPU temperatures and other temperatures. I recommend HWInfo64 or OpenHardwareMonitor but HWMonitor is fine too.

3. Check your OS with chkdsk c: /scan and sfc /scannow.

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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33 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Modern boards have Bios flashback that saves the day if flashing goes wrong. Some have dual bios too.

 

Ok, now we eliminated the highest likely cause. We can continue with the less likely causes.

 

1. Check your SSD/HDD health with Hard Disk Sentinel (trial/free is OK)

2. Check your CPU temperatures and other temperatures. I recommend HWInfo64 or OpenHardwareMonitor but HWMonitor is fine too.

3. Check your OS with chkdsk c: /scan and sfc /scannow.

Everything seems fine.... (I guess)

Even though the system scan said that repaired the corrupted files, the problem persists. Also its a little odd considering that I just formatted and reinstalled Windows

 

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 I made this gif to show the problem, I don't know if is noticeable on the gif, every second (or even less than a sec) the text stutter. This happens not only on youtube, but even if I move a window or the mouse

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50 minutes ago, LeoPoli said:

Everything seems fine.... (I guess)

Even though the system scan said that repaired the corrupted files, the problem persists. Also its a little odd considering that I just formatted and reinstalled Windows

 

This would lead us to memory issues.

 

Does the same happen with XMP (DOCP) off?

 

Can you run PassMark Memtest86 or Memtest86+ to check the memory?

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), IT specialist in a hospital, 30+ years of gaming, 20+ years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Dell P2319h - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/5 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - White Shark Spartan X keyboard - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220 - Philips 226L
  • Livingroom PC (dad uses): AMD FX 8300 - Arctic Freezer 64 - Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo - 2x4GB DDR3 1833 Kingston - MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB OC - 120GB Adata SSD - 500W Fractal Design Essence - DVD-RW - Samsung SM 2253BW - Logitech G710+ - wireless vertical mouse - MS 2.0 speakers
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On 4/19/2023 at 1:45 PM, 191x7 said:

This would lead us to memory issues.

 

Does the same happen with XMP (DOCP) off?

 

Can you run PassMark Memtest86 or Memtest86+ to check the memory?

Sorry, I didn't make the memory check, I just gave up and took the PC to a repair shop.
Here is a detail: I have 2 monitors and a TV on my computer (the TV is the main screen), one of my tests was of course, try to check if the stuttering was happening in every screen, and it was.

 

Today the repair shop called me and said there was no problem at all, everything was working fine, I went there and saw it with my own eyes, everything working as it should. I took back the computer to my office, turn on the computer, and again the stuttering from hell. I changed to another wall plug and change the energy cable, the problem persisted. I booted from Linux USB Stick, no stuttering, everything working fine. I took my computer and connected to my living room TV, booted Windows, no stuttering everything working fine.

I took back the computer to my office, change the HDMI cable to another port on my TV, and THERE YOU GO, NO MORE STUTTERING!

 

I have no idea of what kind of black sorcery was happening, that for some reason the HDMI port from my TV was messing with the whole computer, all the other monitors connected had the same stuttering, EXCEPT WHEN YOU TRY TO RUN LINUX, THEN ITS OK.

 

I thank you a lot 191x7, you were very helpful and tried to fix my problem, in the end, it was something that we will never know what the actual f*ck was going on, but problem solved 🙂

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On 4/20/2023 at 3:08 PM, LeoPoli said:

Sorry, I didn't make the memory check, I just gave up and took the PC to a repair shop.
Here is a detail: I have 2 monitors and a TV on my computer (the TV is the main screen), one of my tests was of course, try to check if the stuttering was happening in every screen, and it was.

 

Today the repair shop called me and said there was no problem at all, everything was working fine, I went there and saw it with my own eyes, everything working as it should. I took back the computer to my office, turn on the computer, and again the stuttering from hell. I changed to another wall plug and change the energy cable, the problem persisted. I booted from Linux USB Stick, no stuttering, everything working fine. I took my computer and connected to my living room TV, booted Windows, no stuttering everything working fine.

I took back the computer to my office, change the HDMI cable to another port on my TV, and THERE YOU GO, NO MORE STUTTERING!

 

I have no idea of what kind of black sorcery was happening, that for some reason the HDMI port from my TV was messing with the whole computer, all the other monitors connected had the same stuttering, EXCEPT WHEN YOU TRY TO RUN LINUX, THEN ITS OK.

 

I thank you a lot 191x7, you were very helpful and tried to fix my problem, in the end, it was something that we will never know what the actual f*ck was going on, but problem solved 🙂

I just want to share that changing my HDMI cable was the fix. It seems that anyone who has this specific stutter issue should try this simple fix first.

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