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Budget (including currency): Around 2,600$

Country: Romania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/user/Subkkar/saved/xsw3RB

I'm going to use this as my day to day gaming rig, i am building a new one because the GPU i had in the old PC fried itselft.

I'm looking to play games at 2k, therefore i'm looking to keep the 4070ti as a must in this build.

Parts i've got and can salvage from the old pc: The liquid cooler (H100x), the fans and a 250gb m.2 ssd + a 1tb 7200rpm hdd.

 

I'm looking for pro/cons for the build as well as teaks to make it slightly better but keeping it in the same price range (or even lower it if it can be done).

 

I'll be ordering parts in 24h the latest.

 

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Okay, that is an expensive motherboard, is there some feature you need that cheaper board don't have? more expensive boards only offer more features, not more performance.

 

It is better to buy kits of RAM instead of single sticks. Look for a 32GB (2*16GB) kit. Also amd 7000 series dosn't really support speeds above 5600mhz too well atm, better to get 5600mhz instead of 6000mhz.

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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11 minutes ago, Sub97 said:

I'm looking to play games at 2k, therefore i'm looking to keep the 4070ti as a must in this build.

are you sure? GPUs like the 6800x which has more VRAM (which will be useful in the future) can game at 1440p 12Hz no problem

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3 minutes ago, Ottoman420 said:

Dont think the old AIO is going to keep the the temps under control would reccomend 360mm aio

 

Also if you can get cl 30 ddr5 6000 its a pretty good bump in performance.

 

Looks good otherwise

 

7900X can be cooled by a tower (I use a 7950X in my main build and cool it with a NH-D15 and I have never thermal throttled even when running traffic sims putting my CPU at max for days on end), it really dosn't need an AIO at all, let alone a 360mm AIO.

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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2 minutes ago, Ottoman420 said:

But his boosted clocks will take a hit dont you think?

My 7950X hasn't taken a hit, I think he'll be fine with the AIO he has. It's not like it's an intel chip 🙂 .

I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Trust but Verify! I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Expand this signature for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components.

 

Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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10 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Okay, that is an expensive motherboard, is there some feature you need that cheaper board don't have? more expensive boards only offer more features, not more performance.

 

It is better to buy kits of RAM instead of single sticks. Look for a 32GB (2*16GB) kit. Also amd 7000 series dosn't really support speeds above 5600mhz too well atm, better to get 5600mhz instead of 6000mhz.

To be honest i was kinda lazy in picking the motherboard since i don't really know what would be good here, i've picked this one because it was coming along with the CPU from the site i was looking at parts (kinda like a combo). The ram will be a 32gb kit.

 

Would it cause problems if i go with the 6000mhz ones or it just doesn't do anything performance wise?

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8 minutes ago, planetary problem said:

are you sure? GPUs like the 6800x which has more VRAM (which will be useful in the future) can game at 1440p 12Hz no problem

This

 

VRam is becoming super important and RX 6800 XT is a really strong value for money right now

 

However, If you wanted to stay at that 4070Ti price point, In germany, you can go as high as the RX 7900 XT (with 20GB Vram) and it still be price competitive with RTX 4070 Ti.

 

Might be worth watching some benchmarks to see what these cards get you in games you play.

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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3 minutes ago, Sub97 said:

Would it cause problems if i go with the 6000mhz ones or it just doesn't do anything performance wise?

could cause problems, could just be stuck at 5600mhz, could be fine. You won't know till you turn it on. The AM5 platform is new so there are teething problems.

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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3 minutes ago, Sub97 said:

To be honest i was kinda lazy in picking the motherboard since i don't really know what would be good here, i've picked this one because it was coming along with the CPU from the site i was looking at parts (kinda like a combo).

Let me have a look at seperate boards to see if I can find something that might be better. What is the price of the CPU and Motherboard combo?

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

Fun Facts

1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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my take on what you should build-

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/bcfR78

it has a even more power full 7900XT (for some reason i think that's a good idea, its a 4K GPU not 2K) and i also upgraded some other things like the SSDs, the CPU (dual CCD CPUs are not ideal for gaming), he power supply, the RAM (Ryzen LOVES low latency RAM) and i also added some almost silent ARCTIC fans to increase airflow

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37 minutes ago, Sub97 said:

Budget (including currency): Around 2,600$

Country: Romania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mostly games

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/user/Subkkar/saved/xsw3RB

I'm going to use this as my day to day gaming rig, i am building a new one because the GPU i had in the old PC fried itselft.

I'm looking to play games at 2k, therefore i'm looking to keep the 4070ti as a must in this build.

Parts i've got and can salvage from the old pc: The liquid cooler (H100x), the fans and a 250gb m.2 ssd + a 1tb 7200rpm hdd.

 

I'm looking for pro/cons for the build as well as teaks to make it slightly better but keeping it in the same price range (or even lower it if it can be done).

 

I'll be ordering parts in 24h the latest.

 

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For gaming a 7700 will be good and will allow for a better GPU

You can also save a bit on SSD and case :

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (1791.89RON @ PC Garage) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (481.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M GAMING X AX Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (983.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Memory: Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (971.88RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (474.79RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (561.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (5982.64RON @ PC Garage) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (626.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (871.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Total: 12747.65RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-30 16:30 EEST+0300

 

 

AMD R9  7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM / ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 ARGB cooler/  2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500  NVme  + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU/ Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / ASUS ROG AZOTH keyboard/ Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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1 minute ago, Sub97 said:

815$ ish

Okay, do you plan to run any PCIe cards other than the GPU?

 

Do you need wifi?

 

anything else you might need?

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Common build advice:

1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticeably improve performance past 240mm and don't improve at all past 360mm. 9) RTFM.

 

Useful Websites:

https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

Bio:

He/Him - I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 4 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). Aside from computers, I also dabble in modding/homebrew retro consoles, support Southampton FC, and enjoy Scuba Diving and Skiing.

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6 minutes ago, planetary problem said:

my take on what you should build-

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/bcfR78

it has a even more power full 7900XT (for some reason i think that's a good idea, its a 4K GPU not 2K) and i also upgraded some other things like the SSDs, the CPU (dual CCD CPUs are not ideal for gaming), he power supply, the RAM (Ryzen LOVES low latency RAM) and i also added some almost silent ARCTIC fans to increase airflow

 

4 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

For gaming a 7700 will be good and will allow for a better GPU

You can also save a bit on SSD and case :

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (1791.89RON @ PC Garage) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (481.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M GAMING X AX Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (983.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Memory: Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory  (971.88RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (474.79RON @ PC Garage) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (561.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  (5982.64RON @ PC Garage) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (626.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (871.89RON @ PC Garage) 
Total: 12747.65RON
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-30 16:30 EEST+0300

 

 

agree with these, 7700X or 7700 is a good pick for gaming (7900X is overkill unless your doing some big productivity workloads)

I always prefer to see full ATX boards but tbh if extra expansion slots arn't needed, then might as well get the cheaper mATX board.

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Okay, do you plan to run any PCIe cards other than the GPU?

 

Do you need wifi?

 

anything else you might need?

I've got no PCIe in mind atm, wifi is not needed, a decent audio chip (but at this price it should't be aproblem), i need the GPU slot to be a bit sturdy, i don't want to to bend/crack due to the pressure of the GPU.

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I've got no PCIe in mind atm, wifi is not needed, a decent audio chip (but at this price it should't be aproblem), i need the GPU slot to be a bit sturdy, i don't want to to bend/crack due to the pressure of the GPU.

Then I refer you to the boards selected by PDifolco and planetary problem 👍

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My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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1 minute ago, Sub97 said:

To everyone else, i like the idea of the AMD gpu but i've always heard mixed reviews about the stability of those. I've had a friend going AMD for him to swap back to Nvidia a month later due to bugs and stability.

What Generation of cards was it. AMD reliability has improved alot recently from what I've been seeing.

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https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier.

 

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1) When I was 3 years old my favourite toy was a scientific calculator. 2) My father is a British Champion ploughman in the Vintage Hydraulic Class. 3) On Speedrun.com, I'm the world record holder for the Dream Bobsleigh event on Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2010.

 

My Favourite Games: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii, Balatro

 

My Computers: Primary: My main gaming rig - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Second: Hosts Discord bots as well as a Minecraft and Ark server, and also serves as a reinforcement learning sand box - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P NAS: TrueNAS Scale NAS hosting SMB shares, DDNS updater, pi-hole, and a Jellyfin server - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Foldatron: My folding@home and BOINC rig (partially donated to me by Folding Team Leader GOTSpectrum) - Mobile: Mini-ITX gaming rig for when I'm away from home -

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Just get a 7700 instead of a 7900 if you are purely gaming, mostly just cost optimizations with a gpu upgrade to rtx 4080

 

38 minutes ago, Ottoman420 said:

Also if you can get cl 30 ddr5 6000 its a pretty good bump in performance.

Gods sake with the amount of misinformation regarding useless cas latency, ddr4 it was already useless but ddr5 now its even more useless in terms of performance impact, only reason youd see a performance bump would be tighter subtimings (trfc trc trrd-l/s tfaw trcd trefi). Only reason i reccomend low cl ddr5 is because hynix a dies for futureproofing (8000+ capability)

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agree with these, 7700X or 7700 is a good pick for gaming (7900X is overkill unless your doing some big productivity workloads)

I always prefer to see full ATX boards but tbh if extra expansion slots arn't needed, then might as well get the cheaper mATX board.

Yep it's kinda weird to put small boards in ATX cases, but the AM5 boards are so expensive  that you can save quite a lot if you don't really need more PCie slots (end even if you do most will be blocked by the huge last gen GPU bricks...)

 

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48 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/HjyZNc

Just get a 7700 instead of a 7900 if you are purely gaming, mostly just cost optimizations with a gpu upgrade to rtx 4080

 

Gods sake with the amount of misinformation regarding useless cas latency, ddr4 it was already useless but ddr5 now its even more useless in terms of performance impact, only reason youd see a performance bump would be tighter subtimings (trfc trc trrd-l/s tfaw trcd trefi). Only reason i reccomend low cl ddr5 is because hynix a dies for futureproofing (8000+ capability)

Nothing to do with future proofing ive seen the reviews where tighter timings make a bump in performance for am5 specifically. This is the video

 

30 fps difference in cl 36-cl30 over a 7 game average at 1080p on the 7700x and 7950x3d. Intel is less effected.

 

The non x3d chips are much more sensitive to it

 

 

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