transition to PC

[crooksguy]

im working out a deal for this computer second hand CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR Gaming PC, Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz,8GB DDR4,WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (GXiVR8060A8, Black) : Amazon.ca: Electronics, im wondering if getting it for $600 is a good deal and what upgrades i should do. i plan on using it for sim racing and other games.

[Dedayog]

10 minutes ago, crooksguy said:

im working out a deal for this computer second hand CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Xtreme VR Gaming PC, Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz,8GB DDR4,WiFi Ready & Win 10 Home (GXiVR8060A8, Black) : Amazon.ca: Electronics, im wondering if getting it for $600 is a good deal and what upgrades i should do. i plan on using it for sim racing and other games.

That's $600 Canadian?  If so, it's not a terrible deal.  If US dollars, it's not good.

 

• System: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz 6-Core | Intel B360 Chipset | 8GB DDR4 | 240GB SSD | 1TB HDD | Genuine Windows 10 Home 64-bit
• Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB Video Card | 1x HDMI | 1x DisplayPort

 

Sim racing?  You'd want more than a 1660.  Infact, you'd want more than the 9400F, more than the 8GB RAM, and more than the 240GB SSD>  a 1TB HDD is worthless.

 

What's your TOTAL budget for this PC and upgrades?  We can spec out a better machine I bet.

[Hinjima]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

That's $600 Canadian?  If so, it's not a terrible deal.  If US dollars, it's not good.

 

• System: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz 6-Core | Intel B360 Chipset | 8GB DDR4 | 240GB SSD | 1TB HDD | Genuine Windows 10 Home 64-bit
• Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB Video Card | 1x HDMI | 1x DisplayPort

 

Sim racing?  You'd want more than a 1660.  Infact, you'd want more than the 9400F, more than the 8GB RAM, and more than the 240GB SSD>  a 1TB HDD is worthless.

 

What's your TOTAL budget for this PC and upgrades?  We can spec out a better machine I bet.

I agree, there are mixed messages of people either getting a 600w or a 800w PSU with this thing as well. Apparently its a Apevia unit... oof =/ 

[crooksguy]

its $600 canadian and thats pretty much my budget

 

[RAM555789]

If this is used, I would say its a pretty bad deal unless these are new parts or you would pay for someone else to build it. Heres an equivalent list of the parts new, (minus windows and the RGB lights)
Edit: Don't know the Canadian market

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($151.81 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock H310CM-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($77.50 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite II 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL18 Memory  ($21.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($15.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($30.46 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus TUF Gaming EVO OC GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Video Card  ($219.99 @ B&H) 
Case: DIYPC F2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($46.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600 W1 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $629.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-25 21:37 EDT-0400

[crooksguy]

i did get him down to $550, this will be my first pc and ill be playing it on a tv in 1080p also looks of the computer dont matter to me

16 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

That's $600 Canadian?  If so, it's not a terrible deal.  If US dollars, it's not good.

 

• System: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9GHz 6-Core | Intel B360 Chipset | 8GB DDR4 | 240GB SSD | 1TB HDD | Genuine Windows 10 Home 64-bit
• Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 6GB Video Card | 1x HDMI | 1x DisplayPort

 

Sim racing?  You'd want more than a 1660.  Infact, you'd want more than the 9400F, more than the 8GB RAM, and more than the 240GB SSD>  a 1TB HDD is worthless.

 

What's your TOTAL budget for this PC and upgrades?  We can spec out a better machine I bet.

 

[RAM555789]

2 minutes ago, crooksguy said:

i did get him down to $550, this will be my first pc and ill be playing it on a tv in 1080p also looks of the computer dont matter to me

 

I would look to take the extra money and at least get a 2nd 8GB stick of RAM. Should easily fall within budget and is easy to install.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, crooksguy said:

i did get him down to $550, this will be my first pc and ill be playing it on a tv in 1080p also looks of the computer dont matter to me

 

 

5 minutes ago, crooksguy said:

its $600 canadian and thats pretty much my budget

 

Well, when you ask what upgrades yoiu need to do, that kind of sounds like you have money to make them.

 

For $550 Canadian, it's okay.  

 

3 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

If this is used, I would say its a pretty bad deal unless these are new parts or you would pay for someone else to build it. Heres an equivalent list of the parts new, (minus windows and the RGB lights)
Edit: Don't know the Canadian market

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($151.81 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock H310CM-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($77.50 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite II 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL18 Memory  ($21.49 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($15.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($30.46 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus TUF Gaming EVO OC GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB Video Card  ($219.99 @ B&H) 
Case: DIYPC F2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($46.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600 W1 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $629.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-03-25 21:37 EDT-0400

Prices are wacky.  While you can get a 9400F for $151, you can get a 5600 for around that too.  Or that 1660 for $220, a used 5700XT would be that as well.  

[crooksguy]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Well, when you ask what upgrades yoiu need to do, that kind of sounds like you have money to make them

sorry for any confusion, i meant in the future, shouldve mentioned that

4 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

I would look to take the extra money and at least get a 2nd 8GB stick of RAM. Should easily fall within budget and is easy to install.

i was planning on doing that 

[crooksguy]

the main reason im fine dealing with a sketchy PSU and possibly motherboard is theres no other computers i can find in my price range that will perform even remotely decent

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, crooksguy said:

the main reason im fine dealing with a sketchy PSU and possibly motherboard is theres no other computers i can find in my price range that will perform even remotely decent

Like said above, you'll want to bring it to 16GB RAM and probably add a 1TB SSD to it (any kind is fine).  Then when it starts having issues giving you the performance you want, you'll build or buy an entirely new machine.

 

Maybe bring the 1TB SSD from it, if you don't sell it or repurpose it.  Nothng else will be useful by then.

[crooksguy]

27 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Like said above, you'll want to bring it to 16GB RAM and probably add a 1TB SSD to it (any kind is fine).  Then when it starts having issues giving you the performance you want, you'll build or buy an entirely new machine.

 

Maybe bring the 1TB SSD from it, if you don't sell it or repurpose it.  Nothng else will be useful by then.

in the long run, would it be more cost effective to just keep my xbox as my gaming station and wait to save up for a better build that id do myself?

[NotAlex]

29 minutes ago, crooksguy said:

in the long run, would it be more cost effective to just keep my xbox as my gaming station and wait to save up for a better build that id do myself?

I'd say that isn't a terrible plan. TBH if you're already happy with your xbox and there isn't a PC exclusive you want to play immediately, there's no shame in console gaming. When the time comes to build your PC, here's a link to the last guide you'll ever need, a comprehensive guide on selecting and building a PC.

[Dedayog]

9 hours ago, crooksguy said:

in the long run, would it be more cost effective to just keep my xbox as my gaming station and wait to save up for a better build that id do myself?

Yes, honestly.  When you truly want to start gaming on PC (and not just one game), then look to build or buy a competent machine.

 

Stepping into it with a $550 barely there machine will sour you to it, I think.

 

When you get $1000 Canadian and want to do this, that's where I think you'll see a really good machine that will perform as you are used to with Xbox.