RAM upgrade

[FCS010101]

Hello,

 

I want to upgrade my old ram corsair vengeance lpx 2666 16Gigs to 32Gigs 3600 CL16

My choises are the following:

1. Gskill ripjaws V ($110) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/184/1562831784/F4-3600C16D-32GVKC-Specification
2. Kingston Fury ($105) https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF436C16RB1K2_32.pdf
3. Gskill trident Z/ trident Z neo ($150) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/166/1562743478/F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC-Specification / https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562840211/F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-Specification

Which one should i get?

CPU: R7 5800X3D

Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro

Bios ver F63f

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, FCS010101 said:

Hello,

 

I want to upgrade my old ram corsair vengeance lpx 2666 16Gigs to 32Gigs 3600 CL16

My choises are the following:

1. Gskill ripjaws V ($110) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/184/1562831784/F4-3600C16D-32GVKC-Specification
2. Kingston Fury ($105) https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF436C16RB1K2_32.pdf
3. Gskill trident Z/ trident Z neo ($150) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/166/1562743478/F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC-Specification / https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562840211/F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-Specification

Which one should i get?

CPU: R7 5800X3D

Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro

Bios ver F63f

If you don't need rgb and you want better timings the ripjaws V seem like a much better buy

[FCS010101]

My top choice for now are the Ripjaws V since they have lower timings than the Fury at the same price

[filpo]

16 minutes ago, FCS010101 said:

My top choice for now are the Ripjaws V since they have lower timings than the Fury at the same price

ye thats probs what you should go for

[Bismut]

17 minutes ago, FCS010101 said:

My top choice for now are the Ripjaws V since they have lower timings than the Fury at the same price

Go with those then. Are all kits listed in the QVL?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

All scam 3600c16 bins that do nothing for performance because primaries dont do shit for performance if the fact that 3600c18 is faster than 3200c16 isnt obvious enough

 

If you want ram performance then tune the rams yourself, there is absolutely no way of getting around ram tuning no matter how much you spend as high bins (>4000) have garbage subtimings and even b die bins (3200c14, 3600c16 non scam 16-16-16) have bleh stock timings

 

 

Also thats a 5800x3d and those do not give a shit about ram speeds past 3200 so i can only reccomend buying 3200c16 or  3600c18 if you prefer running at stock xmp

 

If you want fast rams buy 4x8 crucial ballistix 3200c16 or klevv 3200c16/3600c18 (latter is preffered), run em at 3800-4000 or whatever your fclk maxes out at, max out trefi (65536 or greater), then proceed to tighten trfc, trc, trrd-l/s, and tfaw, then you can go tighten the primaries (though dont go ham on cl or twcl cause those gobble volt for not much performance gain), you wont need more than 1.5v and since this is a rather mild oc frequency wise itll be quite trivial to stabilise and shouldnt take more than a few hours

[PDifolco]

Just now, FCS010101 said:

Hello,

 

I want to upgrade my old ram corsair vengeance lpx 2666 16Gigs to 32Gigs 3600 CL16

My choises are the following:

1. Gskill ripjaws V ($110) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/184/1562831784/F4-3600C16D-32GVKC-Specification
2. Kingston Fury ($105) https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KF436C16RB1K2_32.pdf
3. Gskill trident Z/ trident Z neo ($150) https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/166/1562743478/F4-3600C16D-32GTZRC-Specification / https://www.gskill.com/specification/165/326/1562840211/F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-Specification

Which one should i get?

CPU: R7 5800X3D

Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro

Bios ver F63f

I'm not sure it's a worthwhile upgrade, 3D chips don't care much about RAM speed, and 32GB isn't really useful for gaming neither.. And it's DDR4 so EoL, won't work if you upgrade

Did you try OCing your RAM a bit to say 2833 or even 3000 ? 

[FCS010101]

23 minutes ago, Bismut said:

Go with those then. Are all kits listed in the QVL?

The qvl for my motherboard hasnt been updated since OCT 2021

 

The ripjaws are in there but the 2x8 model not the 2x16. Same with the Trident z i can find the 4x16 model and not the 2x16.

The Kingston are not in it but if i search the product number of the hyperx that are listed i find the kingston.

[FCS010101]

7 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

I'm not sure it's a worthwhile upgrade, 3D chips don't care much about RAM speed, and 32GB isn't really useful for gaming neither.. And it's DDR4 so EoL, won't work if you upgrade

Did you try OCing your RAM a bit to say 2833 or even 3000 ? 

Yes i tried OCing, and it blue screens at anything above 2666.

I dont plan to upgrade anytime soon to a ddr5 platofrm anyway.

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

52 minutes ago, FCS010101 said:

Yes i tried OCing, and it blue screens at anything above 2666.

I dont plan to upgrade anytime soon to a ddr5 platofrm anyway.

 

dont blindly overclock your rams, check thaiphoon burner and send a screenshot here to verify ram ic, then its just a search away to find oc results and you simply copy paste someone elses settings though minor adjustments may be required. Even if you get garbage hynix mfr thatll still do atleast 3200

 

worked pretty well for me considering i went from being walled at 1150 6-6-6-18 on my xtreem dark to running at 1520 7-9-6-9 just by copying the hwbot wr for my kit cause ddr2 info is scarce, did something similar looking at ddr3 ic thread for my cheap 1333 samsung 1gbit rev f and got it to 2200 9-11-11 with relative ease but couldnt push further cause rubbish xeon imc on x58

[FCS010101]

Ok so i found the trident Z neo on amazon.de for $128 and since i already had a an old $25 gift card i bought those.

 

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/G-Skill-2x16GB-3600MHz-F4-3600C16D-32GTZNC-Memory/dp/B07VRLBXLR/ref=d_pd_sbs_sccl_1_1/262-0140646-0021231?pd_rd_w=ljUUx&content-id=amzn1.sym.e240add7-999b-4e0b-8c0e-340ec2846a97&pf_rd_p=e240add7-999b-4e0b-8c0e-340ec2846a97&pf_rd_r=40K4FPA193J4ED9T83SC&pd_rd_wg=Nrg6q&pd_rd_r=727f59d3-dd0e-4b83-b166-c93e3b42aa39&pd_rd_i=B07VRLBXLR&psc=1

 

Thank you everyone for your replys

 

Edit: the ram arrived yesterday and it works with the default xmp profile at 3600 CL16

 

[Bismut]

On 3/19/2023 at 11:44 AM, PDifolco said:

and 32GB isn't really useful for gaming neither

I agree, it is useful in some games. I had issues in BeamNG and heavily modded Minecraft, especially when I had my browser open at the same time.

 

On 3/19/2023 at 4:49 PM, FCS010101 said:

Ok so i found the trident Z neo on amazon.de for $128 and since i already had a an old $25 gift card i bought those.

I know it's not relevant to this thread any more, but I recommend checking Geizhals.de if you buy hardware in Germany.

[FCS010101]

On 3/23/2023 at 10:55 AM, Bismut said:

I agree, it is useful in some games. I had issues in BeamNG and heavily modded Minecraft, especially when I had my browser open at the same time.

 

I know it's not relevant to this thread any more, but I recommend checking Geizhals.de if you buy hardware in Germany.

Seems they dont like VPNs

[FCS010101]

Update:

The ram arrived yesterday and it works at 3600 cl16

[Bismut]

50 minutes ago, FCS010101 said:

Seems they dont like VPNs

Yup, they don't. Works from France VPN endpoints for some reason tho

 

50 minutes ago, FCS010101 said:

The ram arrived yesterday and it works at 3600 cl16

Neat!